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Post by Deleted on Nov 7, 2015 22:04:43 GMT -5
Bruins got a lot of powerplays early--one of them because of, dare I say embellishment? Condon a solid game. Defense with some iffy plays. Gustavsson just bad enough for us to come back to win it. Terrible late penalty by Krejci. Lucic must be proud.
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Post by blny on Nov 7, 2015 22:06:32 GMT -5
I left down 2-1, hoping history would hold true to form. You're all welcome.
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Post by Deleted on Nov 7, 2015 22:08:05 GMT -5
I left down 2-1, hoping history would hold true to form. You're all welcome. This game had an odour to it. Bruins took the lead but they didn't look particularly great doing it. They were just slightly worse than we were in the end.
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Post by jkr on Nov 7, 2015 22:11:22 GMT -5
I left down 2-1, hoping history would hold true to form. You're all welcome. You'll have to share the credit. I didn't watch the 3rd either.
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Post by NWTHabsFan on Nov 7, 2015 22:12:00 GMT -5
Lucky 13. Sometimes you just take 'em. Decent effort to finish the game, Condon solid against his hometown team. Must be a huge win for him!!
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Post by Disp on Nov 7, 2015 22:12:45 GMT -5
It's always great to beat the b's. Even better when they completely blow it.
I guess when you have the refs on your side all game, you start feeling a little entitled. Good stuff Krejci.
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Post by blny on Nov 7, 2015 22:17:50 GMT -5
I left down 2-1, hoping history would hold true to form. You're all welcome. You'll have to share the credit. I didn't watch the 3rd either. LOL I can live with that.
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Post by franko on Nov 7, 2015 22:18:18 GMT -5
that was an ugly third period. a lot of minor league mistakes.
wondered what DD was doing on the ice for that last penalty. what do I know?
match penalty? really? oh well, it didn't matter.
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Post by Willie Dog on Nov 7, 2015 22:23:38 GMT -5
that was an ugly third period. a lot of minor league mistakes. wondered what DD was doing on the ice for that last penalty. what do I know? match penalty? really? oh well, it didn't matter. Does that mean Tinner is in next game?
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Post by habsorbed on Nov 7, 2015 22:31:00 GMT -5
Boys looked pretty sloppy in their own end. Plenty of give aways and way too many icings. Perhaps wary of getting hit (we were out hit by a wide margin).
Don't know how Krackhead doesn't get 4 minutes for his repeated cheap shots on Pleks.
Chucky looking real good in the third. Eller had a strong game. I'm really liking DSP - way smarter than I thought.
How many more games will Max remain in his dormancy?
Congrats to Condon. He is playing some inspired hockey. No more than 2 goals again. and some big saves in the third.
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Post by Deleted on Nov 7, 2015 22:53:12 GMT -5
Therrien turned down a chance to call out the Bruins on embellishment. When asked about it he said, "I don't want to go there."
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Post by blny on Nov 7, 2015 23:08:50 GMT -5
I have some issues with the disallowed goal. Yes, Gallagher makes contact with the goalie. But, he neither initiates that contact nor can do anything about it. He's got Chara on his back, who ways a good 80-100lbs more. Brendan isn't backing out of that scenario. Gustavsson moves backwards into him in an attempt to cross the crease. IMO, the play is no different than if Gustavsson hit Chara while trying to get across the crease. Gallagher just happens to be between the two.
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Post by habsorbed on Nov 7, 2015 23:21:31 GMT -5
I have some issues with the disallowed goal. Yes, Gallagher makes contact with the goalie. But, he neither initiates that contact nor can do anything about it. He's got Chara on his back, who ways a good 80-100lbs more. Brendan isn't backing out of that scenario. Gustavsson moves backwards into him in an attempt to cross the crease. IMO, the play is no different than if Gustavsson hit Chara while trying to get across the crease. Gallagher just happens to be between the two. It's a goal if it's not Gally in the middle of all that. When I watch the replay it seems Gally does not make contact with Gus until Chara pushes Gally. That should be the end of story but it's Gally so refs think he did it intentionally. Maybe he did, but Chara sure helped it along.
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Post by franko on Nov 7, 2015 23:35:20 GMT -5
I have some issues with the disallowed goal. Yes, Gallagher makes contact with the goalie. But, he neither initiates that contact nor can do anything about it. He's got Chara on his back, who ways a good 80-100lbs more. Brendan isn't backing out of that scenario. Gustavsson moves backwards into him in an attempt to cross the crease. IMO, the play is no different than if Gustavsson hit Chara while trying to get across the crease. Gallagher just happens to be between the two. It's a goal if it's not Gally in the middle of all that. When I watch the replay it seems Gally does not make contact with Gus until Chara pushes Gally. That should be the end of story but it's Gally so refs think he did it intentionally. Maybe he did, but Chara sure helped it along. yet the refs called it a goal; it was reviewed on challenge and the war room deemed it non-goal, no?
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Post by blny on Nov 7, 2015 23:36:53 GMT -5
I have some issues with the disallowed goal. Yes, Gallagher makes contact with the goalie. But, he neither initiates that contact nor can do anything about it. He's got Chara on his back, who ways a good 80-100lbs more. Brendan isn't backing out of that scenario. Gustavsson moves backwards into him in an attempt to cross the crease. IMO, the play is no different than if Gustavsson hit Chara while trying to get across the crease. Gallagher just happens to be between the two. It's a goal if it's not Gally in the middle of all that. When I watch the replay it seems Gally does not make contact with Gus until Chara pushes Gally. That should be the end of story but it's Gally so refs think he did it intentionally. Maybe he did, but Chara sure helped it along. They should have known it was Brendan when they initially called it a good goal. It wasn't until Boston challenged, and the play went under review with Toronto that things changed. I do agree that he gets the short end of the stick a lot though. There's no doubt he stirs the pot, but he doesn't go out of his way to break the rules. He's rarely actually IN the crease of his own doing or choice. If he is, it isn't for long.
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Post by habernac on Nov 8, 2015 0:14:52 GMT -5
Toronto doesn't review that, the referees make that call, no?
Krejci wears the horns on this one, looks good on him, too. Screw the Bruins.
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Post by CentreHice on Nov 8, 2015 0:19:50 GMT -5
Didn't see 1 minute of the game.
Glad to see the 4-2 result after checking in after a 2-1 third period Bruins' lead.
Haven't seen the highlight, but does Beaulieu warrant supplementary discipline for his "attempt to injure" misconduct at the end of the game?
I've read that Friedman said Beau was just "protecting himself from Rinaldo".
So, Julien sent out the goons after it was 4-2???
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Post by habernac on Nov 8, 2015 0:26:00 GMT -5
My favourite comment about Beaulieu was made by Kyprios who said he would have made Rinaldo eat his stick as well. His elbow was going right for his head.
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Post by CentreHice on Nov 8, 2015 0:44:24 GMT -5
My favourite comment about Beaulieu was made by Kyprios who said he would have made Rinaldo eat his stick as well. His elbow was going right for his head. Good for him. Kypreos isn't a sell-out. He played a tough, honest brand of hockey. And he's continued that character into his broadcasting career.
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Post by habsorbed on Nov 8, 2015 1:20:22 GMT -5
My favourite comment about Beaulieu was made by Kyprios who said he would have made Rinaldo eat his stick as well. His elbow was going right for his head. Even Kypreous can do the math: a 4ht liner, known for his goonary, played fewer minutes than any other forward for the Bruins is coming at you full throttle when the outcome of the game is not in question; gee what would any reasonable person do to protect themselves? If the league suspends Beau then they are being counterproductive. Players like Renaldo should no longer be in the league. Beau and true NHLers should keep defending themselves!
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Post by habsorbed on Nov 8, 2015 1:23:34 GMT -5
Toronto doesn't review that, the referees make that call, no? Krejci wears the horns on this one, looks good on him, too. Screw the Bruins. I think it is the refs looking at it on a tablet Petty dumb. But here's the question: under the rule had the refs originally called it no goal on the ice, could MT challenge that call?
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Post by PTH on Nov 8, 2015 2:15:59 GMT -5
Refs were horrible in this one. I can think of at least 3 botched calls, and at least 2 blatant non-calls.
Anyone else notice that Plekanec scored on a PP from a penalty that DD drew, and DD scored on a PP caused by a penalty drawn by Plekanec ?
The DD line is attracting more coverage.... Plekanec and Pax need to take advantage.
I'm very worried about Galchenyuk, and this has nothing to do with which position he plays. He's skilled but seems to take many bad decisions and takes bad decisions.
We're lucky Markov didn't get an extra 2 or 10 for blasting the puck onto the Boston bench.
Beaulieu shouldn't have raised his stick on Rinaldo, but I would never assume that Rinaldo is going to hit cleanly, either.
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Post by seventeen on Nov 8, 2015 2:54:20 GMT -5
If I was built like Beaulieu instead of the 98 lb weakling that I am, I'd have stuffed two feet of my stick down Rinaldo's throat. Whatever suspension he gets is worth it. There's no clearer way to make a statement that you won't be intimidated. Sometimes you have to take the punishment and send the league's players a message - "Be a jackass with me and you'll eat lumber or plastic or whatever those sticks are made of now". Good on Nathan. It was a weird game. Both teams were making botched plays in their own end, though the Habs seemed to make more of them and more serious ones. Condon bailed them out several times, even if he didn't look quite like Carey doing it. Gustafvsson is just a big, gorky goalie. Lucky more than skilled. Glad he's on Boston.
Both Eller and Galchy looked like they're trying to do too much. As soon as they made some simple plays, like shooting the puck and going for rebounds, they started producing. Chucky surprised the monster by shooting when he did and Eller finished it off like he's supposed to. He gave up another bad rebound on the 3rd goal and DD made him pay. Nice roofing of the puck.
Boston's gotten rid of Lucic, but not Lucicitis, or perhaps all along it's been Neelyitis. They're still just jerks. Johnson didn't explain Pleks' penalty very well in the first period. First it wasn't a penalty, but the refs were having a really bad day. Secondly, you don't skate right into the goalie and stand over him like you own him. No team is going to allow that and the refs were really dumb for calling a penalty on that. At least call one on Hayes for unsportsmanlike conduct too. But later they called a penalty on Mitchell for bumping into a Bruin, so why am I surprised? I hope the refs had a couple of stiff drinks after the game and forgot it ever happened.
I wonder if Semin will be back next game? Byron looked singularly ineffective today no matter which line he was on and sometimes that's the trigger for Therrien.
Wow is Petry a bargain. He'd be the #1 defenseman on a lot of teams in the league and he's on our second pairing. He does so many things well, without fanfare. No flash, but totally effective. Great trade and great signing. Pass the poutine, please.
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Post by CentreHice on Nov 8, 2015 8:14:46 GMT -5
Is Mike Johnson on the Bruins' payroll? No analysis as to why Julien would have Rinaldo on the ice at that time of the game. Didn't see the elbow come up. I wonder if the league will believe Beaulieu when he says he was simply protecting himself from a goon player sent out by a goon coach, considering the time and circumstances. Oh wait....Beaulieu isn't Dustin Byfuglien....
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Post by franko on Nov 8, 2015 8:15:06 GMT -5
If I was built like Beaulieu instead of the 98 lb weakling that I am, I'd have stuffed two feet of my stick down Rinaldo's throat. Whatever suspension he gets is worth it. There's no clearer way to make a statement that you won't be intimidated. Sometimes you have to take the punishment and send the league's players a message - "Be a jackass with me and you'll eat lumber or plastic or whatever those sticks are made of now". Good on Nathan. what are you talking about? hockey play gone bad. didn't realize who it was. didn't realize he'd keep skating at me when I passed the puck off. didn't see him coming. oh, and if happens again I'll do the same thing. this Habs team will no longer be doormats. and I like it. drove me bonkers. PK with a "here's the puck" tape to tape pass to a Bruin open in the middle of ice. no clear. sloppy sloppy sloppy. I feared for a point until mid period when the Habs finally woke up. maybe they had them before the game? Therrien will have to get over himself to do it. if Semin comes to life MT will hear the "why didn't you do it earlier/why did you even sit him" complaints and that won't sit well with him. but maybe he's grown up and it's less about him and more about him not getting fired mid-season and then the team goes on to hoist the Cup. more and more people asking "what was Edmonton thinking? he wasn't good enough to play there but he's doing the job on the Habs?". good on MB. now . . . sit Gilbert and bring in Tinner next game.
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Post by Disgruntled70sHab on Nov 8, 2015 8:47:38 GMT -5
Boston's gotten rid of Lucic, but not Lucicitis, or perhaps all along it's been Neelyitis. They're still just jerks. Their media keeps that big, bad Bruins persona alive ... they also have the biggest fan-behind-the-microphone, the ever-whining Jack Edwards ... never heard a more unprofessional announcer anywhere ... he does it with the officials and other teams, but he kicks it into overdrive when they're playing the Habs ... it's not enough just to beat Montreal, you'll have to have their heads on a spit in order to make that poisoned fan base happy ... To be honest, the only time I've heard his name is when he scored those two shorthanded goals earlier ... however, I looked over the stats from last night's game and he was second on the club in hits ... Emelin was first with 7 and Byron was second with 5 ... D'accord ... he's turning out to be the best signing Bergevin made this year ... Cheers.
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Post by jkr on Nov 8, 2015 9:01:51 GMT -5
that was an ugly third period. a lot of minor league mistakes. wondered what DD was doing on the ice for that last penalty. what do I know? match penalty? really? oh well, it didn't matter. Does that mean Tinner is in next game? I think the league can rescind match penalties. This deserves a look. It's typical of Julien to have a goon like Rinaldo out in the last seconds of a lost game. Nice to see the roles reversed. The Bruins were the divers (Miller on Markov's penalty & Krug on Mitchell's penalty) & the Habs were the ones delivering the punishment.
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Post by Skilly on Nov 8, 2015 9:04:22 GMT -5
The highlight of the night was Brendan Gallagher's reaction to the refs waving the goal off .... Standing at the bench with his elbow on the boards, he looks at the ref, smirks and opens his hand to give a WTF expression.
Video replay is going to wave off these goals 9 times out of 10. The reason is they only show the goalie, not the play developing. I can see why Gallagher's goal was waved off. He did make contact. But it was way before the goal was scored. It's my opinion, they called it no goal, because after making contact there was a very very very small window where he could have tried to get out of the paint. Now mind you, even if he tried, he would have been met by Chara. But I didn't see any attempt on Gallagher's part to get out, and even if he tried it wouldn't have made a difference, With replay, get used to these calls.
Someone asked if it was called a no-goal, could Therrien challenge. Yes he could have. He could have argued Chara pushed him into the goalie. If Charas push was the initial contact, then it would be a good goal. Which is why this goalie interference is so grey. Cause on review odds are they reverse that too.
How about that Nathan Beaulieu? I hope the Habs appeal that match penalty, but it doesn't seem like something Bergevin would do. Everyone in the rink but Chris Lee knew what Rinaldo was trying to do. No, not elbow Beaulieu, he was trying to hit him dirty enough that he started a fight and allow Boston to win a battle in the war. But Beaulieu had his own counter strike, due to good Intel. Let's see now, how the League, twists and turns body movements and players intents this time ...
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Post by jkr on Nov 8, 2015 9:05:20 GMT -5
My favourite comment about Beaulieu was made by Kyprios who said he would have made Rinaldo eat his stick as well. His elbow was going right for his head. I know he didn't play but I heard Bob McKenzie say something similar a couple of years ago. Why take an elbow to the head & risk a concussion. Get your stick up and take the penalty. But deliberate attempt to injure - that's a joke.
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Post by jkr on Nov 8, 2015 9:09:25 GMT -5
Therrien turned down a chance to call out the Bruins on embellishment. When asked about it he said, "I don't want to go there." He did call out the refs to some extent post game. He complained about the 3 questionable calls in the 1st period. It's unusual for a coach to talk like that after a game. Maybe if enough people complain the league will finally notice how bad Chris Lee is.
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