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Post by jkr on Feb 9, 2016 11:11:28 GMT -5
Still looking for a link but just saw something in my Twitter from McKenzie that states these 2 teams are talking about Phaneuf. Will start looking for a link. twitter.com/TSNBobMcKenzie |
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Post by blny on Feb 9, 2016 11:13:15 GMT -5
Been following this on twitter last few minutes. Came together fast ... Phaneuf is going to the Sens. Nine players involved in total.
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Post by jkr on Feb 9, 2016 11:14:26 GMT -5
Been following this on twitter last few minutes. Came together fast ... Phaneuf is going to the Sens. Nine players involved in total. Surprises me despite his contract. Thought he was doing his job in TO, albeit he was overpaid. |
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Post by blny on Feb 9, 2016 11:14:58 GMT -5
#Sens get Phaneuf, Frattin, Bailey, Rupert and Donaghey in exchange for Cowen, Greening, Michalek, Lindberg and 2nd-rounder in 2017.
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Post by blny on Feb 9, 2016 11:16:59 GMT -5
Lebrun saying that Leafs aren't retaining any salary.
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Post by jkr on Feb 9, 2016 11:16:59 GMT -5
Been following this on twitter last few minutes. Came together fast ... Phaneuf is going to the Sens. Nine players involved in total. Got to hand it to Murray. He's dealing with cancer & still working hard to improve his team. |
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Post by blny on Feb 9, 2016 11:18:42 GMT -5
Been following this on twitter last few minutes. Came together fast ... Phaneuf is going to the Sens. Nine players involved in total. Got to hand it to Murray. He's dealing with cancer & still working hard to improve his team. From a Leafs pov, I like it. Frees up a chunk of change. This should spur on the Stamkos to Toronto talk. |
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Post by jkr on Feb 9, 2016 11:19:23 GMT -5
#Sens get Phaneuf, Frattin, Bailey, Rupert and Donaghey in exchange for Cowen, Greening, Michalek, Lindberg and 2nd-rounder in 2017. Can see Cowen & Michalek playing in Toronto, not sure about Greening. Don't know enough about the other guys playing going to Ottawa. Look like minor leaguers. |
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Post by jkr on Feb 9, 2016 11:20:40 GMT -5
Got to hand it to Murray. He's dealing with cancer & still working hard to improve his team. From a Leafs pov, I like it. Frees up a chunk of change. This should spur on the Stamkos to Toronto talk. That's what I thought of immediately.  C'mon Steven - re-sign in TB! |
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Post by blny on Feb 9, 2016 11:21:06 GMT -5
#Sens get Phaneuf, Frattin, Bailey, Rupert and Donaghey in exchange for Cowen, Greening, Michalek, Lindberg and 2nd-rounder in 2017. Can see Cowen & Michalek playing in Toronto, not sure about Greening. Don't know enough about the other guys playing going to Ottawa. Look like minor leaguers. Frattin has seen a fair amount. Bailey's been up. Ian Mendes tweet: Leafs "If only we could get rid of Phaneuf's contract" Sens "If only we could get rid of Cowen and Greening's contracts" lol |
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Post by jkr on Feb 9, 2016 11:25:28 GMT -5
Can see Cowen & Michalek playing in Toronto, not sure about Greening. Don't know enough about the other guys playing going to Ottawa. Look like minor leaguers. Frattin has seen a fair amount. Bailey's been up. Ian Mendes tweet: Leafs "If only we could get rid of Phaneuf's contract" Sens "If only we could get rid of Cowen and Greening's contracts" lol Looks like Cowen, Micahlek & Greening all have just one year left on their deals according to nhlnumbers.com |
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Post by blny on Feb 9, 2016 11:28:59 GMT -5
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Post by jkr on Feb 9, 2016 11:36:10 GMT -5
Whenever I watched Ottawa lately I had the impression that Cowen was out of favor & seen as a disappointment. Don't know how he will fare in Toronto. Sens get a guy who clearly is not the go to guy on D. I think he will be OK in that role & along with Methot (I think he's back) will add some physical play. Pros for both teams IMO. EDIT: Have to go for a while. At work & people keep interrupting. |
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Post by CentreHice on Feb 9, 2016 11:46:20 GMT -5
There may be a bit of a message for Bergevin…
Bargain deals aren't the only ones that can be made…even within Divisions…between traditional rivals…
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Post by blny on Feb 9, 2016 11:51:11 GMT -5
There may be a bit of a message for Bergevin… Bargain deals aren't the only ones that can be made…even within Divisions…between traditional rivals… To play Devil's Advocate, our only comparable might be Plekanec. The rest are guys we'd ideally like to sell off for immediate cap relief. There's nothing to say the Leafs can't move Cowen or Greening before the deadline, but their salaries and Michalek's add up to more than Phaneufs and all are signed through next year. |
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Post by CentreHice on Feb 9, 2016 11:52:02 GMT -5
The Leafs managed to shed themselves of Kessel, Clarkson, and now Phaneuf.
Are they eating any of Kessel's and/or Clarkson's contracts?>
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Post by CentreHice on Feb 9, 2016 11:57:55 GMT -5
There may be a bit of a message for Bergevin… Bargain deals aren't the only ones that can be made…even within Divisions…between traditional rivals… To play Devil's Advocate, our only comparable might be Plekanec. The rest are guys we'd ideally like to sell off for immediate cap relief. There's nothing to say the Leafs can't move Cowen or Greening before the deadline, but their salaries and Michalek's add up to more than Phaneufs and all are signed through next year. Of course. Motivation and incentive for trading differ from deal to deal. It's finding a dancing partner that most-closely meets mutual needs. I'm just saying that Bergevin's PlayStation-type excuses are wearing thin. |
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Post by jkr on Feb 9, 2016 11:58:21 GMT -5
The Leafs managed to shed themselves of Kessel, Clarkson, and now Phaneuf. Are they eating any of Kessel's and/or Clarkson's contracts?> Some of Kessel's - 1.2 mill I think. |
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Post by blny on Feb 9, 2016 11:59:15 GMT -5
To play Devil's Advocate, our only comparable might be Plekanec. The rest are guys we'd ideally like to sell off for immediate cap relief. There's nothing to say the Leafs can't move Cowen or Greening before the deadline, but their salaries and Michalek's add up to more than Phaneufs and all are signed through next year. Of course. Motivation and incentive for trading differ from deal to deal. It's finding a dancing partner that most-closely meets mutual needs. I'm just saying that Bergevin's PlayStation-type excuses are wearing thin. Playstation would be selling off parts for a superstar lol. I think this tweet sums up what the Habs need to take from all this. If the Leafs can move those pieces and retain very little ... |
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Post by Disgruntled70sHab on Feb 9, 2016 11:59:51 GMT -5
Got to hand it to Murray. He's dealing with cancer & still working hard to improve his team. From a Leafs pov, I like it. Frees up a chunk of change. This should spur on the Stamkos to Toronto talk. First thing I thought of when I heard of the trade ... freeing up the cap space for Stamkos ... Ottawa just got better, though ... Dion Phaneuf might come with a big cap hit, but he was Toronto's best defenseman (IMO) ... Cheers. |
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Post by CentreHice on Feb 9, 2016 12:09:45 GMT -5
Bryan Murray on radio now. The deal really started coming together--talking in earnest--on Saturday.
In response to, "Were you at all reluctant to trade with a division rival?"
I'm never hesistant when it comes to making a good deal. We've dealt with Tampa, Buffalo…and now Toronto...
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Post by madhabber on Feb 9, 2016 12:18:43 GMT -5
End of an era in Toronto. He was the last of the Big 4 wasn't he. Kaberle, Beauchemin, Komisarek and Phaneuf.
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Post by Skilly on Feb 9, 2016 12:21:27 GMT -5
Bryan Murray says he needed a defenseman to play with Methot and a Left Winger. So he trades two left wingers and acquires a right winger. Murray must see something in Phaneuf , cause this is a huge Leafs win. A young talented prospect, Cowan, and the second rounder.
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Post by blny on Feb 9, 2016 12:21:42 GMT -5
Bryan Murray on radio now. The deal really started coming together--talking in earnest--on Saturday. In response to, "Were you at all reluctant to trade with a division rival?" I'm never hesistant when it comes to making a good deal. We've dealt with Tampa, Buffalo…and now Toronto...I wouldn't be either. My only question from a Sens pov would be are they a team that gets over the hump acquiring Phaneuf? |
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Post by CentreHice on Feb 9, 2016 12:43:39 GMT -5
Bryan Murray on radio now. The deal really started coming together--talking in earnest--on Saturday. In response to, "Were you at all reluctant to trade with a division rival?" I'm never hesistant when it comes to making a good deal. We've dealt with Tampa, Buffalo…and now Toronto...I wouldn't be either. My only question from a Sens pov would be are they a team that gets over the hump acquiring Phaneuf? He'll likely slide in where he belongs…on the second pairing….no longer the captain, on top of that outrageous contract. The Leafs are no doubt OVERJOYED, though….ha! |
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Post by blny on Feb 9, 2016 12:44:37 GMT -5
I wouldn't be either. My only question from a Sens pov would be are they a team that gets over the hump acquiring Phaneuf? He'll likely slide in where he belongs…on the second pairing….no longer the captain, on top of that outrageous contract. The Leafs are no doubt OVERJOYED, though….ha! Yes, but is it $7 million well spent? Is he really the missing piece? |
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Post by jkr on Feb 9, 2016 13:03:37 GMT -5
Bryan Murray on radio now. The deal really started coming together--talking in earnest--on Saturday. In response to, "Were you at all reluctant to trade with a division rival?" I'm never hesistant when it comes to making a good deal. We've dealt with Tampa, Buffalo…and now Toronto...Didn't start talking seriously on a deal this size until 3-4 days ago? And we're told it took weeks to trade Tinordi for Bartley.  |
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Post by Willie Dog on Feb 9, 2016 13:06:29 GMT -5
Bryan Murray on radio now. The deal really started coming together--talking in earnest--on Saturday. In response to, "Were you at all reluctant to trade with a division rival?" I'm never hesistant when it comes to making a good deal. We've dealt with Tampa, Buffalo…and now Toronto...Didn't start talking seriously on a deal this size until 3-4 days ago? And we're told it took weeks to trade Tinordi for Bartley. But MB really wanted another All Star player in the Habs organisation. |
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Post by jkr on Feb 9, 2016 13:07:41 GMT -5
Bryan Murray says he needed a defenseman to play with Methot and a Left Winger. So he trades two left wingers and acquires a right winger. Murray must see something in Phaneuf , cause this is a huge Leafs win. A young talented prospect, Cowan, and the second rounder. I don't know Skilly. Cowen , I don't think, has ever lived up to being a 9th over all pick and the pick & prospect are just unknowns at this point. I'd say the leafs are happy just to get rid of another of Nonis's onerous contracts. |
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Post by BadCompany on Feb 9, 2016 13:11:52 GMT -5
Didn't start talking seriously on a deal this size until 3-4 days ago? And we're told it took weeks to trade Tinordi for Bartley. To be fair it was never said that the Montreal end of that three-way took weeks to consummate. In fact, Pierre Lebrun said that Bergevin had received zero offers for Tinordi up until five days before he traded him. So he really only took five days to trade Tinordi. |
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C'mon Steven - re-sign in TB!
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