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Post by blny on Sept 1, 2016 6:39:26 GMT -5
Some say he may have retired while wearing a Habs uniform ...
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Post by Polarice on Sept 1, 2016 6:42:47 GMT -5
I had no issues with him in Montreal....I had issues with who we traded away to get him.
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Post by CentreHice on Sept 1, 2016 7:52:52 GMT -5
Gomez was part of one of the worst examples of asset management I can recall. Gainey let how many UFAs walk for nothing? 8? 9? 10? Including captain Koivu. All because of the Centennial celebrations.
Gomez's 3-season tenure in Montreal was highlighted by Halak's brilliance in the 2010 playoffs (Year 1).
After that, it was a 2011 1st round loss to the Bruins (who were allowed to bully their way to the Cup, including the Pacioretty-Chara fiasco) during which Gomez was mired in what would be a year-long goal-scoring drought. 60 games between goals. (Feb 5, 2011 to Feb 9, 2012). He would score only 1 more as a Hab. After 2011, he vowed such a woeful personal performance wouldn't happen again. It happened again.
The 2011-12 season continued on to be a disaster…low-lighted by threats of boycotts over Cunneyworth's hiring as interim coach. Ridiculous.
And we had to watch McDonagh grow into a stud d-man.
With the exception of Halak, that was a brief era worth forgetting, IMO.
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Post by Tankdriver on Sept 1, 2016 8:09:33 GMT -5
Yeah, I can't blame Gomez for the contracts he received. No one is going to turn down big money if offered to them. I think the game just started to evolve and pass him by. Besides that one big year with the devils, he was never a really a big goal scorer. I think Montreal just felt jipped because the gave up McDonaugh for him.
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Post by blny on Sept 1, 2016 8:32:19 GMT -5
I don't blame Scott for his contract. Hell, I thought his first season in Montreal was reasonably successful. Remove the playoffs from the equation. He put up 59 points in a season where Cammalleri missed 17 games and Gionta missed 21. Those were his line mates. Factor in the playoffs and he put up 14 points in 19 games.
My quip was about after that first season. He virtually disappeared. It didn't change after he left Montreal either. He seems like a genuinely nice guy, but I wonder if he just lost the passion to play.
I don't lose sleep over McD. Would it be nice to have him still? Sure, if it could be guaranteed that we wouldn't have moved him in another trade. Had Gomez played out his contract contributed 60 points a season I don't think it would have been as difficult a pill to swallow as it has been for some. McD is a good defender on a team full of bad ones. When people look at the Rangers, I don't think anyone looks and says their d core is elite. McD is a 30p defender who skates well and plays a responsible game. IMO he's no superstar. He's not the guy that's gonna win you a title. He's a first pair player. If he were paired with PK it would be in a supporting role. IMO, he's not a one in a million player. You should be able to find others like him.
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Post by CentreHice on Sept 1, 2016 9:10:00 GMT -5
I don't care about his contract either. It was the situation that brought such an acquisition about. Gomez was clearly on the decline in New York. But Gainey found himself forced to restock the cupboard after allowing all the UFAs to walk for nothing.
It was a 3-year mishmash, and only Halak prevented it from being a first round knockout in 2010, to go along with 2011's first round loss, and 2012's last place finish in the East.
131 saves on 134 shots in Games 5, 6, and 7 vs. Washington. One of the most remarkable goaltending performances I can remember.
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Post by The Habitual Fan on Sept 1, 2016 11:25:40 GMT -5
I don't care about his contract either. It was the situation that brought such an acquisition about. Gomez was clearly on the decline in New York. But Gainey found himself forced to restock the cupboard after allowing all the UFAs to walk for nothing. It was a 3-year mishmash, and only Halak prevented it from being a first round knockout in 2010, to go along with 2011's first round loss, and 2012's last place finish in the East. 131 saves on 134 shots in Games 5, 6, and 7 vs. Washington. One of the most remarkable goaltending performances I can remember. I thought Gomez gave it his best in Montreal but as it was pointed out his glory days were behind him and he slid downhill fast . McD was a highly rated prospect but unproven at the NHL level so it was a gamble that didn't pay off. On the other hand Gionta and Cammalleri ended up being decent players for the Habs. I really fault Gainey however knowing the Habs were not making the playoffs or would do very little and then letting all the UFA walk for nothing . They should have been dealt at the deadline or even the rights given away for mid range picks but there was no return at all and basically left the cupboard bare of any decent picks or prospects that took years to recover
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Post by CentreHice on Sept 1, 2016 11:57:19 GMT -5
I don't care about his contract either. It was the situation that brought such an acquisition about. Gomez was clearly on the decline in New York. But Gainey found himself forced to restock the cupboard after allowing all the UFAs to walk for nothing. It was a 3-year mishmash, and only Halak prevented it from being a first round knockout in 2010, to go along with 2011's first round loss, and 2012's last place finish in the East. 131 saves on 134 shots in Games 5, 6, and 7 vs. Washington. One of the most remarkable goaltending performances I can remember. I thought Gomez gave it his best in Montreal but as it was pointed out his glory days were behind him and he slid downhill fast . McD was a highly rated prospect but unproven at the NHL level so it was a gamble that didn't pay off. On the other hand Gionta and Cammalleri ended up being decent players for the Habs. I really fault Gainey however knowing the Habs were not making the playoffs or would do very little and then letting all the UFA walk for nothing . They should have been dealt at the deadline or even the rights given away for mid range picks but there was no return at all and basically left the cupboard bare of any decent picks or prospects that took years to recover He sure did slide downhill fast. Only 2 goals in his final 87 games as a Hab, including the 7-game Bruins series. So relieved to see him go...and another regime begin. 4 years later, however....still pounding our heads against the wall in the absence of all-world goaltending.
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Post by seventeen on Sept 1, 2016 12:33:25 GMT -5
I don't care about his contract either. It was the situation that brought such an acquisition about. Gomez was clearly on the decline in New York. But Gainey found himself forced to restock the cupboard after allowing all the UFAs to walk for nothing. It was a 3-year mishmash, and only Halak prevented it from being a first round knockout in 2010, to go along with 2011's first round loss, and 2012's last place finish in the East. 131 saves on 134 shots in Games 5, 6, and 7 vs. Washington. One of the most remarkable goaltending performances I can remember. I thought Gomez gave it his best in Montreal but as it was pointed out his glory days were behind him and he slid downhill fast . McD was a highly rated prospect but unproven at the NHL level so it was a gamble that didn't pay off. On the other hand Gionta and Cammalleri ended up being decent players for the Habs. I really fault Gainey however knowing the Habs were not making the playoffs or would do very little and then letting all the UFA walk for nothing . They should have been dealt at the deadline or even the rights given away for mid range picks but there was no return at all and basically left the cupboard bare of any decent picks or prospects that took years to recover Definitely. Especially Souray. No way he was coming back and he had some value. Could have gotten a couple of 2nds or a 1st for him.
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Post by Disgruntled70sHab on Sept 5, 2016 8:12:32 GMT -5
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