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Post by habmeister on Jul 30, 2005 6:38:48 GMT -5
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Post by habmeister on Jul 30, 2005 6:41:07 GMT -5
im biased living in vancouver and watching gilbert play 30 games this season but this kid has more heart and determination than almost any play you will ever see. he is a saku clone with a better shot, i cant tell you how many times ive seen the goalies water bottle go flying this past season.
the capper for me was when he scored a hat trick in the prospects game, (granted he was goal sucking a bit) and watching him play with bertuzzi and naslund in a charity game here nazzy was shaking his head at the skill that gilbert was showing, he wasnt shy at all to try to one up markus with some trick plays.
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Post by M. Beaux-Eaux on Jul 30, 2005 7:19:22 GMT -5
Marc Staal.
Because Timmins and Gainey (will) say so.
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Post by mic on Jul 30, 2005 8:18:53 GMT -5
Marc Staal. Because Timmins and Gainey (will) say so. Am I the only one who doesn't like what you can read and see about Staal ? Every time I read a scouting report about Staal the younger, I keep seeing Dykhuis. No real strength, but can play 30 min a game (Dykhuis almost did it with Brisebois a few seasons ago !). Now, I have nothing against a better version of Dykhuis (I assume Staal will be better), but the Habs have the opportunity to pick a potential star (without having to go through a dreadful season...). Why not try to get a special player ? That's why I like what I hear about Brulé. I'm not too sure about Kopitar, as he never had to play in a real league. Junior in Sweden is fine, but why didn't he play senior ? That makes me feel unconfortable. |
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Post by jkr on Jul 30, 2005 8:32:54 GMT -5
I voted for Brule but this is only based on all the material I have read. Never seen any of these guys play.
The name I really like is Pouliot but I guess we are assuming he will be gone by number 5.
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Post by Vinna on Jul 30, 2005 9:09:56 GMT -5
I voted for Kopitar. I like his size and skill set. I think he has the highest upside and could possibly be the best offensive player avaliable, but I also like Brule and Ryan. If we draft any of these three, I would be thrilled.
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Post by The Habsome One on Jul 30, 2005 9:10:03 GMT -5
Marc Staal. Because Timmins and Gainey (will) say so. I had a nightmare last night of the Habs picking Staal. Columbus happily followed by picking Kopitar, of course.  |
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Post by The Habsome One on Jul 30, 2005 9:13:38 GMT -5
Marc Staal. Because Timmins and Gainey (will) say so. That's why I like what I hear about Brulé. I'm not too sure about Kopitar, as he never had to play in a real league. Junior in Sweden is fine, but why didn't he play senior ? That makes me feel unconfortable. Swedish league followers on HF appear to be in consensus that Kopitar would have played senior last year if not for the lockout (his team was loaded with NHLers). He will play on the big team this year. |
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Post by M. Beaux-Eaux on Jul 30, 2005 9:16:43 GMT -5
Marc Staal. Because Timmins and Gainey (will) say so. I had a nightmare last night of the Habs picking Staal. Columbus happily followed by picking Kopitar, of course. Don't get me wrong, I want the Habs to pick Kopitar, it's just that—and I'm not Staaling here—I've got a funny feeling that it's going to be a topsy-turvy first 10 picks in this draft. Only 2hrs away. |
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Post by mic on Jul 30, 2005 9:23:36 GMT -5
That's why I like what I hear about Brulé. I'm not too sure about Kopitar, as he never had to play in a real league. Junior in Sweden is fine, but why didn't he play senior ? That makes me feel unconfortable. Swedish league followers on HF appear to be in consensus that Kopitar would have played senior last year if not for the lockout (his team was loaded with NHLers). He will play on the big team this year. Oh that's not really the problem. What I have a problem with is that he never had to compete against men on a regular basis (a season, not a week). Perhaps he was good enough he never had to actually do it on a higher level. A bit like Kostitsyn when he was drafted. But of course that doesn't mean much to the Habs management. They pay their scouts to know if a player will be able to translate their skills on the NHL level and I'm certainly not competent for that. So I'm not against this pick, just not too comfortable with it. But at least he is supposed to be talented. Not like what I read about Staal... |
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Post by clear observer on Jul 30, 2005 9:50:43 GMT -5
Marc Staal. Because Timmins and Gainey (will) say so. Am I the only one who doesn't like what you can read and see about Staal ? Every time I read a scouting report about Staal the younger, I keep seeing Dykhuis. No real strength, but can play 30 min a game (Dykhuis almost did it with Brisebois a few seasons ago !). Now, I have nothing against a better version of Dykhuis (I assume Staal will be better), but the Habs have the opportunity to pick a potential star (without having to go through a dreadful season...). Why not try to get a special player ? That's why I like what I hear about Brulé. I'm not too sure about Kopitar, as he never had to play in a real league. Junior in Sweden is fine, but why didn't he play senior ? That makes me feel unconfortable. In fact, for those who may recall, Dykhuis was touted as a sure-fire star with ALL the tools...excellent wheels (which he had), good shot (hmmmph), great vision (decent), and good size. CO |
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Post by mic on Jul 30, 2005 10:00:24 GMT -5
Am I the only one who doesn't like what you can read and see about Staal ? Every time I read a scouting report about Staal the younger, I keep seeing Dykhuis. No real strength, but can play 30 min a game (Dykhuis almost did it with Brisebois a few seasons ago !). Now, I have nothing against a better version of Dykhuis (I assume Staal will be better), but the Habs have the opportunity to pick a potential star (without having to go through a dreadful season...). Why not try to get a special player ? That's why I like what I hear about Brulé. I'm not too sure about Kopitar, as he never had to play in a real league. Junior in Sweden is fine, but why didn't he play senior ? That makes me feel unconfortable. In fact, for those who may recall, Dykhuis was touted as a sure-fire star with ALL the tools...excellent wheels (which he had), good shot (hmmmph), great vision (decent), and good size. CO And being reliable. Which in fact was the case. During about one season. That's why I would prefer to see Johnson taken by Gainey. He's more of a gamble à la Hainsey but at least we tried. If not him, then rather a forward. Brulé, Kopitar, Ryan, etc. Not too sold on Ryan and Pouliot, but then again, I'm no scout and Gainey will never call me to complete his office. By the way, great to see you posting again. Are you coming back ? |
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Post by clear observer on Jul 30, 2005 11:19:26 GMT -5
In fact, for those who may recall, Dykhuis was touted as a sure-fire star with ALL the tools...excellent wheels (which he had), good shot (hmmmph), great vision (decent), and good size. CO And being reliable. Which in fact was the case. During about one season. That's why I would prefer to see Johnson taken by Gainey. He's more of a gamble à la Hainsey but at least we tried. If not him, then rather a forward. Brulé, Kopitar, Ryan, etc. Not too sold on Ryan and Pouliot, but then again, I'm no scout and Gainey will never call me to complete his office. By the way, great to see you posting again. Are you coming back ? Johnson would be a great grab IMO...but, of course, you never know with 17-18 yr olds....sooooooo much can happen in terms of their on-going development....at the end of the day....EVERY pick is a crap-shoot...but, again, some more than others. Yes, I'm "back" and am in the process of re-launching a new site (HabsRus.ca) that will link to our discussion-board. Thx, mic  CO |
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Post by Habs_fan_in_LA on Jul 30, 2005 14:30:42 GMT -5
Gainey voted for Price!
Gainey 1, HabsRus fans 0.
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Post by PTH on Jul 30, 2005 14:35:55 GMT -5
I just voted for Price. Fills an organisationnal need.
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Post by Habs_fan_in_LA on Jul 30, 2005 14:42:26 GMT -5
It could have been worse! We could have won the #1 pick and taken Carey Price instead of Crosby.  It could have been better. We could have had the #18 pick and taken Carey Price.  |
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Post by jkr on Jul 30, 2005 16:50:16 GMT -5
I just voted for Price. Fills an organisationnal need. I always thought the philosophy was to pick the BPA at a spot as high as #5 and go for team needs later - unless the BPA & your need are one and the same. Do we assume them that the Habs brain trust felt Price was the BPA? |
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Post by PTH on Jul 30, 2005 16:56:07 GMT -5
I just voted for Price. Fills an organisationnal need. I always thought the philosophy was to pick the BPA at a spot as high as #5 and go for team needs later - unless the BPA & your need are one and the same. Do we assume them that the Habs brain trust felt Price was the BPA? I believe in the "layer theory" of the draft - that several players are considered roughly comparable, forming a layer, and within a layer you choose whoever you like and when possible, fits a need, and in this case the Habs saw that C.P. was both a position in need of filling in and they were comfortable with him. |
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Post by Habs_fan_in_LA on Jul 31, 2005 6:10:36 GMT -5
Will everyone who had Setoguci, Lee and Bourdon ranked above Kopitar, please raise their hand. (You can include Price in that list too)
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