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Post by Yeti on Feb 24, 2004 7:11:11 GMT -5
From Spector:
- The Montreal Canadiens have apparently contacted the Pittsburgh Penguins regarding centre Mike Eastwood as GM Bob Gainey isn't happy with the play of faceoff specialist Yanic Perreault.
Bégin feels more comfortable at C. Eastwood would push him off to LW. I don't see this as an improvement. If it is, it's not worth more than a fifth round pick.
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Post by Douper on Feb 24, 2004 7:38:34 GMT -5
He's big, plays better than Kilger and is good on faceoffs. I'd rather have Eastwood as our 4th line 8min per game guy than Perreault.
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Post by Skilly on Feb 24, 2004 7:52:03 GMT -5
Eastwood is a start. He would be a good pick-up.
But we need defensive and a top two line guy also. If this deal is done then I hope other moves will be made also
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Post by HFTO on Feb 24, 2004 8:31:09 GMT -5
Depth never hurts but we have more pressing needs other than a 3rd or 4th liner.If its in conjunction with what you say Skilly I'm all for it, if thats the only move your going to make then why give up anything. HFTO
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Post by BadCompany on Feb 24, 2004 9:07:15 GMT -5
Could this be the prelude to the "much" anticipated right-handed center move? Either Mike Sillinger or Mike Eastwood might look good on the 4th line. Both are right-handed shooters, both are good on face-offs, both could probably be had for a mid-range draft pick, both can easily be dumped at the end of season, both are Gainey-esque players, both would make nice additions to the 4th line, pending the return of Steve Begin. If Kilger can't, or won't, do the job, would either of those guys be logical choices? Sillinger (56.5% on face-offs): tsf.waymoresports.thestar.com/thestar/hockey/player.cgi?1278Eastwood (51.3% on face-offs): tsf.waymoresports.thestar.com/thestar/hockey/player.cgi?1015What is it they say about visually impaired squirrels and acorns? Mind you, nothing has happened yet... Eastwood makes perfect sense. Sure, we would all love that big, young, power forward who can score 35-40 goals, but who doesn't? Nobody is giving those guys away. Eastwood is a character veteran, a right-handed faceoff specialist, decent penalty killer, impending UFA who can be walked away from, and probably pretty cheap to acquire. He upgrades our 4th line and penalty killing, pushes Begin up to the 3rd line, and Juneau either to the wing, or the press box, depending on how his back is feeling. The Pens aren't going anywhere, Eastwood is a UFA, unless there is a bidding war for him, a 5th-7th round pick should be more than enough to do it. In my opinion, it would be a great depth move.
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Post by blny on Feb 24, 2004 9:13:46 GMT -5
I didn't realize that Mike is 6'3". Despite his +/- this year (-25), he's considered a pretty good defensive player. His salary for the year is 600,000, and he'll be a UFA as of July 1st. It would be an insurance policy for sure, and shouldn't garner more than a 6th rounder IMO. Mike will be 37 this summer. With Juneau's wonky back, and Perreault, we don't have a lot of depth up the middle in terms of defense.
One has to wonder, if Eastwood were acquired, and Begin moved to the wing, which winger would be on the outs. As it stands now, Begin is centering Sunny and Dacks on the third line and Juneau is on the fourth with Ward and another warm body. Would Langdon be getting the pressbox duty? That'd be my guess.
I like what I've seen from Sunny - Begin - Dacks. It's a broken record, but Steve brings the best out of his linemates. I didn't see the Ranger game, but I thought the line was one of our best Saturday against the Leafs. It was Begin's line that created a lot of the jump we managed to find late in the second. I'd be hesitant to breakup the line permanently, but if Eastwood can make us better, and Begin can handle the wing, I'd be in favour of the move.
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Post by ForgottenRebel on Feb 24, 2004 9:41:10 GMT -5
What are we the leafs now picking up anyone over 30?? no offence but i think there are much better, younger centers out there to be had if we really wanted a fourth line center... we have them in our own system, why not play higgins
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Post by Deleted on Feb 24, 2004 10:49:19 GMT -5
I think he's looking for a bit of veteran leadership for our playoff drive. That and he's a right-handed center. He won't be had for much, if he actually is interested.
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Post by AH on Feb 24, 2004 11:02:02 GMT -5
LOL !!!!
Some people's heads around here will explode if all BG does is get Eastwood at the deadline.
Having said that, I think BG is looking for something "better" than Eastwood. BG stated the need for a RH center on new year's eve. If all he was looking for was a depth guy able to take key faceoffs, Eastwood would already be a Hab. It will not take much to get him out of Pittsburgh. If Gainey is unable to get someone better, then Eastwood may be the fall back guy.
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Post by blny on Feb 24, 2004 11:20:12 GMT -5
What are we the leafs now picking up anyone over 30?? no offence but i think there are much better, younger centers out there to be had if we really wanted a fourth line center... we have them in our own system, why not play higgins Younger would cost BG more, and Higgins isn't being groomed as a centre. They want him for the wing. Higgins shouldn't be relied on for important faceoffs either. Eastwood is cheap to pay, and cheap to get. As insurance he's ideal. BG isn't looking longterm in a deal like this. He's looking short term. If Juneau retired, Eastwood could be considered for a new contract. He likely wouldn't be asking for much more than the $600,000 he's getting this year.
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Post by blaise on Feb 24, 2004 11:56:09 GMT -5
A contract for the 18 games remaining after tonight would be sufficient. By the start of next season (assuming there is one) Eastwood will be 38. I would not want to use up a roster spot by re-signing him.
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Post by Douper on Feb 24, 2004 12:39:58 GMT -5
I don't think we would need to resign him. He would be our rent-a-player. I think he would offer good services till the young guys are ready to make the club. Higgins, Perez, Balej would be best served in a run with Hamilton. We all know how it helped Ryder and Ward last season. Better to have them play prime minutes with the dogs instead of riding the pine in Montreal cause Julien will not sit Juneau and others in the playoffs.
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Post by Doc Holliday on Feb 24, 2004 13:08:08 GMT -5
What is it they say about visually impaired squirrels and acorns? Is it "Even a one-eyed Chipmunk takes care of his nuts" ? In my opinion, it would be a great depth move. I agree. Nothing spectacular but a rather straight forward acquisition that doesn't tie us up.
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Post by blny on Feb 24, 2004 14:02:21 GMT -5
I don't think we would need to resign him. He would be our rent-a-player. I think he would offer good services till the young guys are ready to make the club. Higgins, Perez, Balej would be best served in a run with Hamilton. We all know how it helped Ryder and Ward last season. Better to have them play prime minutes with the dogs instead of riding the pine in Montreal cause Julien will not sit Juneau and others in the playoffs. I'm not really suggesting to resign him. It's merely random thought. Juneau's back may finally convince him to quit. Eastwood would be cheap. Besides, we may have to look for cheap after a CBA is finalized. I'd rather have Eastwood on our 4th line next year than one of the kids.
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Post by legaspesien on Feb 24, 2004 14:03:05 GMT -5
Bruce Garrioch reports the following: - The Montreal Canadiens have apparently contacted the Pittsburgh Penguins regarding centre Mike Eastwood as GM Bob Gainey isn't happy with the play of faceoff specialist Yanic Perreault.
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Post by Forum Ghost on Feb 24, 2004 16:02:57 GMT -5
One has to wonder, if Eastwood were acquired, and Begin moved to the wing, which winger would be on the outs. As it stands now, Begin is centering Sunny and Dacks on the third line and Juneau is on the fourth with Ward and another warm body. Would Langdon be getting the pressbox duty? That'd be my guess. I like what I've seen from Sunny - Begin - Dacks. It's a broken record, but Steve brings the best out of his linemates. I didn't see the Ranger game, but I thought the line was one of our best Saturday against the Leafs. It was Begin's line that created a lot of the jump we managed to find late in the second. I'd be hesitant to breakup the line permanently, but if Eastwood can make us better, and Begin can handle the wing, I'd be in favour of the move. I also like what I've seen from Sundstrom-Begin-Dackell. If the Eastwood trade goes through, he'll probably be centering the 4th line. In that case there is no need to break up the Begin line. The Habs 4th line could consist of Juneau-Eastwood-Ward. Langdon and Kilger could be used sparingly, when the need for their size/physical presence is needed.
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Post by blaise on Feb 24, 2004 18:17:41 GMT -5
A lot depends on the availability of Bulis.
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Post by jkr on Feb 24, 2004 19:39:23 GMT -5
While I agree that Eastwood would be a good short term pickup we have to consider the source. Bruce Garrioch has a lousy track record when it comes to this stuff. How would he know that anyway?
If you take a good look at the trades this year, almost all of them came out of the blue - without any rumors at all.
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Post by Douper on Feb 25, 2004 7:48:30 GMT -5
I don't know this guy Garrioch but I've seen Eastwood's name on the board a couple times before. I think it just makes sense.
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Post by sergejean on Feb 25, 2004 22:42:27 GMT -5
If we are going to trade with Pittsburgh, why not asking for their 1st round pick in 2005... Crosby anyone... just kidding by the way ;D
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Post by Skilly on Feb 26, 2004 9:16:10 GMT -5
If we are going to trade with Pittsburgh, why not asking for their 1st round pick in 2005... Crosby anyone... just kidding by the way ;D If we are going to trade with Pittsburgh for Eastwood then I would want either Kraft, Morozov, or Tarnstrom to be coming to Montreal along with Eastwood.
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