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Post by blny on Jun 24, 2017 10:04:50 GMT -5
Per Friedman. Details to come.
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Post by blny on Jun 24, 2017 10:26:06 GMT -5
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Post by blny on Jun 24, 2017 10:43:07 GMT -5
The first and second to NYI are 18s. Flames send conditional 2nd in 19 or 20. NYI send conditional 4th in 19 or 20. Unsure of the conditions.
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Post by blny on Jun 24, 2017 10:44:23 GMT -5
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Post by blny on Jun 24, 2017 10:45:09 GMT -5
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Post by folatre on Jun 26, 2017 18:20:18 GMT -5
I am envious of the top 4 of Calgary d-corps. The situation in net probably improved. It seems as though they are serious about contending right now and if they inject a little more talent into the top six 2017-18 could be fun for Flames fans.
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Post by blny on Jun 29, 2017 3:15:08 GMT -5
I am envious of the top 4 of Calgary d-corps. The situation in net probably improved. It seems as though they are serious about contending right now and if they inject a little more talent into the top six 2017-18 could be fun for Flames fans. They've got a little over $20 million committed to their top 4. That's a good number. Acquiring Smith makes them old in net, but he will be backstopping a better team. Their forward group is a mixed bag. Versteeg is a ufa after his one year deal. Brouwer was signed for way too much. He's got 3 more years at $4.5 million. They were trying to give him away at the draft. No dice. They're stuck with that one. Backlund makes about the same. They might have a balanced top 4, and Hamonic might be inexpensive at less than $4 million, but they're gonna have a hard time adding talent up front from outside the club. Unless they trade one of that four for offense I think they're stuck up front. |
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Post by The Habitual Fan on Jun 29, 2017 7:09:25 GMT -5
Giving up a 1st and 2nd next year and a 2nd the year after is really going to limit what the Flames can do going forward. They have young guys now but I don't think they are anywhere near cup contenders and to get stronger up front they are going to have to sacrifice some NHL ready guys. I think they gave up way too much for Harmonic.
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Post by seventeen on Jun 29, 2017 10:53:10 GMT -5
There is an intense competition between Calgary and Edmonton, right NWT? Even if the two teams have not been contenders in the recent past, it is similar to the Habs/Nordiques conflict. Calgary can't afford to let Edmonton our of their sights, so they needed to shore up the defense. They now have a team somewhat like Nashville. Very strong at the back end with Brodie, Hamilton, Giordano and Hamonic, along with probably better 5 and 6 defense with Ladislav Smid and Bartkowski. Up front, Monohan and Gaudreau are very dangerous and Sam Bennett is getting better. They don't have a McDavid, but it's a good team. Smith in goal is a question mark, but Elliott had a bad year last year, so even an average Smith year would be good enough. Scoring should be ok, with support guys like Tkachuk, Ferland, Brouwer and Backlund.
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Post by GNick99 on Dec 25, 2017 6:21:08 GMT -5
Flames been known to be mover and shakers from time-to-time. Other day Grant McCagg on his website suggested a Pacioretty/Plekanec trade for Jankowski/Fox trade. If Habs do sell...is this a good move?
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Post by blny on Dec 26, 2017 16:22:58 GMT -5
Flames been known to be mover and shakers from time-to-time. Other day Grant McCagg on his website suggested a Pacioretty/Plekanec trade for Jankowski/Fox trade. If Habs do sell...is this a good move? Not imo. I don't think Jankowski is a game breaker. He's not enough of a top end center to make it worth while. I also think you get more for each of our players by moving the separately. |
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Post by GNick99 on Dec 29, 2017 10:41:39 GMT -5
Flames been known to be mover and shakers from time-to-time. Other day Grant McCagg on his website suggested a Pacioretty/Plekanec trade for Jankowski/Fox trade. If Habs do sell...is this a good move? Not imo. I don't think Jankowski is a game breaker. He's not enough of a top end center to make it worth while. I also think you get more for each of our players by moving the separately. Chances are...but doubt we will get much more than a first pick for Pacioretty the season he is having. I don't know Jankowski that well but his stats looks promising. A 6'3 center, 23 years old who has scored at every level he has been at. What would we get for TP? A second round pick....something like that? |
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Post by blny on Dec 29, 2017 10:47:17 GMT -5
Not imo. I don't think Jankowski is a game breaker. He's not enough of a top end center to make it worth while. I also think you get more for each of our players by moving the separately. Chances are...but doubt we will get much more than a first pick for Pacioretty the season he is having. I don't know Jankowski that well but his stats looks promising. A 6'3 center, 23 years old who has scored at every level he has been at. What would we get for TP? A second round pick....something like that? TP will depend on if there is a bidding war. He still wins draws and kills penalties. His production is better this year than last and he's playing with rookies a lot of the time. Still a plus player on a bad team. Max's funk shouldn't kill his value. Teams know what they'd be getting. This isn't a player who's game has fallen off, never to return. If they can't get an unprotected first and an A prospect, or B prospect and a second (with said first), there isn't much point. |
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Post by seventeen on Dec 29, 2017 17:05:28 GMT -5
Take the pressure of being captain from Max and he’ll score again.
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Post by blny on Dec 29, 2017 23:15:10 GMT -5
Take the pressure of being captain from Max and he’ll score again. Most likely. That doesn't happen mid-season outside of a trade though.  |
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Post by GNick99 on Dec 30, 2017 2:16:49 GMT -5
Chances are...but doubt we will get much more than a first pick for Pacioretty the season he is having. I don't know Jankowski that well but his stats looks promising. A 6'3 center, 23 years old who has scored at every level he has been at. What would we get for TP? A second round pick....something like that? TP will depend on if there is a bidding war. He still wins draws and kills penalties. His production is better this year than last and he's playing with rookies a lot of the time. Still a plus player on a bad team. Max's funk shouldn't kill his value. Teams know what they'd be getting. This isn't a player who's game has fallen off, never to return. If they can't get an unprotected first and an A prospect, or B prospect and a second (with said first), there isn't much point. I imagine if we keep some of Plekanec's salary will get a little more. Habs in position to do that to increase return. Pacioretty slump hasn't killed his value but it reduced it. Can't take away his captaincy without being an insult to him. |
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