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Post by Skilly on Jul 1, 2017 14:29:57 GMT -5
Not sure what you mean by "not signing Radulov easier" ... Before that Schlemko deal, we had 21.5 million in cap space. Yes I keep harping back to Schlemko, cause he really isn't any better than what we had. But I digress ... With that 21.5 million, we conceivably could have given Radulov 6.5 million, Markov, 5.5 million, Galchenyuk 5 million, and had 4.5 million remaining for another player ... Yes, that's awful tight to the cap, but I am listing maximums here to show what is possible. With Dadonov, Radulov might even stay here for 6 million (or less?). I really don't think MB is smart enough to realize he had enough cap space, he really schlemkoed the situation I mean that had they signed Dad it would have been easier to make up for losing Rad. There might be cap space for both, but there isn't roster space. Dad's a rw. The whole LW and RW thing is overblown ... Today's players can play both. But for the sake of argument Pacioretty - #1 C - Radulov Drouin - #2C - Dadonov I'm not sure why we are all married to Gallagher having to be in the top two lines. Him on the third line with Lehkonen. Of course that means Shaw drops to the fourth line or plays center. It's our center issue that's a snarl in this scenario .... Or maybe we put Drouin at center . I don't see the roster space as an issue, If Drouin truly can play center |
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Post by PTH on Jul 1, 2017 14:49:25 GMT -5
I mean that had they signed Dad it would have been easier to make up for losing Rad. There might be cap space for both, but there isn't roster space. Dad's a rw. The whole LW and RW thing is overblown ... Today's players can play both. But for the sake of argument Pacioretty - #1 C - Radulov Drouin - #2C - Dadonov I'm not sure why we are all married to Gallagher having to be in the top two lines. Him on the third line with Lehkonen. Of course that means Shaw drops to the fourth line or plays center. It's our center issue that's a snarl in this scenario .... Or maybe we put Drouin at center . I don't see the roster space as an issue, If Drouin truly can play center But if Galchenyuk is a LW, your scenario has us with Lehkonen or Gallagher on the 4th line, even if Shaw is at center. |
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Post by blny on Jul 1, 2017 16:21:29 GMT -5
I mean that had they signed Dad it would have been easier to make up for losing Rad. There might be cap space for both, but there isn't roster space. Dad's a rw. The whole LW and RW thing is overblown ... Today's players can play both. But for the sake of argument Pacioretty - #1 C - Radulov Drouin - #2C - Dadonov I'm not sure why we are all married to Gallagher having to be in the top two lines. Him on the third line with Lehkonen. Of course that means Shaw drops to the fourth line or plays center. It's our center issue that's a snarl in this scenario .... Or maybe we put Drouin at center . I don't see the roster space as an issue, If Drouin truly can play center I'm not married to Brendan. I'd trade him f9r the right return. I've been pretty vocal about that. However he's on the team and so is Shaw. |
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Post by Disgruntled70sHab on Jul 1, 2017 17:36:01 GMT -5
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Post by blny on Jul 1, 2017 20:30:01 GMT -5
A strange move. He's expensive for a 3rd pair, which is what he'll be ... unless Matt Irwin is going to Colorado as part of a Duchene deal. |
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Post by blny on Jul 1, 2017 20:36:54 GMT -5
Pens re-sign Schultz to 3x5.5
Sharks re-sign Thornton to 1x6.5
... VGK retains 29% of Emelin's contract.
Tampa signs Kunitz 1x2
Kings sign Keumper to 1x600k
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Post by Skilly on Jul 1, 2017 22:02:35 GMT -5
The whole LW and RW thing is overblown ... Today's players can play both. But for the sake of argument Pacioretty - #1 C - Radulov Drouin - #2C - Dadonov I'm not sure why we are all married to Gallagher having to be in the top two lines. Him on the third line with Lehkonen. Of course that means Shaw drops to the fourth line or plays center. It's our center issue that's a snarl in this scenario .... Or maybe we put Drouin at center . I don't see the roster space as an issue, If Drouin truly can play center But if Galchenyuk is a LW, your scenario has us with Lehkonen or Gallagher on the 4th line, even if Shaw is at center. Galchenyuk is a center despite what MB and CJ wants us to believe |
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Post by PTH on Jul 1, 2017 22:40:06 GMT -5
A strange move. He's expensive for a 3rd pair, which is what he'll be ... unless Matt Irwin is going to Colorado as part of a Duchene deal. Given that Vegas is retaining 29% of his salary, he comes in at less than 3M, which is already a better fit for what he offers. I have to say, I think Vegas miscalculated taking him; a guy like Hudon or DLR might be able to contribute more. Then again, in fairness, nothing much of what we offered was going to be valuable. They also used one of their two retention slots on a bit player, I figure they'd want to use those on some overpaid but still useful high-end players. (Bobby Ryan at 50% retained would be very attractive for a number of teams, for example). |
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Post by blny on Jul 2, 2017 10:32:23 GMT -5
I think the most interesting thing from yesterday is that no one got max term. Longest contract is Alzner's, and he's only 28. Biggest cash to Shattenkirk.
The two extensions the Sharks gave out yesterday are big news. Vlasic is 30 now. He's got a year left on his existing deal and then his 8 year $56 million contract kicks in.
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Post by blny on Jul 2, 2017 16:49:43 GMT -5
Leafs sign Marleau to 3 year deal with aav of $6.25 million.
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Post by Skilly on Jul 2, 2017 16:50:15 GMT -5
Leafs sign Patrick Marleau ... 3 years , $6.25M per season
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Post by Skilly on Jul 2, 2017 16:50:48 GMT -5
Beat me to it .... Missed it by that much
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Post by franko on Jul 2, 2017 16:53:24 GMT -5
he'll be 40 when the contract is done . . . does it matter for him less than others?
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Post by blny on Jul 2, 2017 16:59:53 GMT -5
It's got a NMC too. Fack. I think he'll have a good first season for them, and they have the space with so many core kids on ELC's, but that contract is gonna hurt in year two and three imo. SJ likely offered one to two years for that hit. It's what they signed Joe for. It's a lot of cash for 'leadership'.
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Post by Disgruntled70sHab on Jul 2, 2017 17:24:06 GMT -5
I think he'll do well in Toronto ... it's a young team, but they have some veterans in town now that are going to contribute to the cause ... Ron Hainsey, Patrick Marleau and Dominic Moore will all help the Leafs ... they might be tough to beat next year me thinks ...
Cheers.
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Post by blny on Jul 2, 2017 18:14:31 GMT -5
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Post by seventeen on Jul 2, 2017 18:51:06 GMT -5
Do you smell an Ovechkin change of address?
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Post by seventeen on Jul 2, 2017 18:55:43 GMT -5
he'll be 40 when the contract is done . . . does it matter for him less than others? The Leafs can do no wrong? Marleau's last 4 seasons points. 70-57-48-46, I wouldn't want my stock price graph to look like that. Wow...38 years old when camp starts. It's not like he has some easy excuses either. He played with good centres, he has a good coach, the defense is solid and with Burns, it moves the puck like crazy, yet his points are dwindling. I wouldn't have done it, but I can see why Marleau signed. Ride off into the sunset in the six. |
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Post by blny on Jul 2, 2017 19:06:24 GMT -5
Do you smell an Ovechkin change of address? They don't have much cap space left, and a number of guys to sign. Burakovsky is an integral part of their younger group too. Either can play center. I wonder if it might be Backstrom. 29 years old, and 3 more years at $6.7 million. |
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Post by Skilly on Jul 2, 2017 19:08:42 GMT -5
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Post by jkr on Jul 2, 2017 19:12:57 GMT -5
Too much for a 25 year old with 2 twenty goal seasons.
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Post by blny on Jul 2, 2017 19:18:07 GMT -5
They're clearly banking that this ppg season was first of many. Paid like a #1, gotta wonder what that means for Backstrom.
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Post by Disgruntled70sHab on Jul 2, 2017 19:27:29 GMT -5
They're clearly banking that this ppg season was first of many. Paid like a #1, gotta wonder what that means for Backstrom. I guess they have a few more players to sign but not enough cap space ... this reporter feels they're going to be forced into a deal ... |
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Post by blny on Jul 2, 2017 19:42:23 GMT -5
They're clearly banking that this ppg season was first of many. Paid like a #1, gotta wonder what that means for Backstrom. I guess they have a few more players to sign but not enough cap space ... this reporter feels they're going to be forced into a deal ... |
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Post by blny on Jul 2, 2017 19:43:25 GMT -5
That clears $4.583 million.
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Post by blny on Jul 2, 2017 19:56:39 GMT -5
Final details on Thornton's deal. yeesh.
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Post by Disgruntled70sHab on Jul 2, 2017 19:57:33 GMT -5
Six minutes between the tweets, blny ... Twitter is smokin' ...
Cheers.
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Post by Polarice on Jul 2, 2017 20:16:55 GMT -5
I think he'll do well in Toronto ... it's a young team, but they have some veterans in town now that are going to contribute to the cause ... Ron Hainsey, Patrick Marleau and Dominic Moore will all help the Leafs ... they might be tough to beat next year me thinks ... Cheers. I just see old and injury prone. Leafs just wasted cap space. I'm very happy with these signings. |
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Post by Disgruntled70sHab on Jul 2, 2017 21:13:13 GMT -5
I guess they have a few more players to sign but not enough cap space ... this reporter feels they're going to be forced into a deal ... ... this is where I was going before ...
... are the Caps finished moving salary out ...
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Post by franko on Jul 2, 2017 21:42:15 GMT -5
i just went through the list . . . and ya know . . . there's a whole lot of nothing there.
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