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Post by GNick99 on Oct 17, 2017 16:03:25 GMT -5
Bergs took in last 2 Isles games. Leddy, Beaulivier? Nelson? Galchenyuk involved no doubt.
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Post by blny on Oct 17, 2017 17:25:27 GMT -5
Bergs took in last 2 Isles games. Leddy, Beaulivier? Nelson? Galchenyuk involved no doubt. Interesting stuff Nick. Anders Lee could be a possibility too. I know Isles fans are very high on Beauvillier. |
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Post by folatre on Oct 17, 2017 20:06:27 GMT -5
It is hard to say. For me I do not see why Snow wants to trade Leddy or Beaulivier. Maybe De Haan since he is UFA next year and if Tavares somehow stays there is definitely no room for another 3-4 million per year contract. Snow has certainly managed to accumulate a few bad long-term contracts like Clutterbuck, Cizikas, Ladd, and Boychuk. But I would certainly hope there is no way Bergevin wants any part of those guys.
In the end, I think there is 50/50 chance he has no choice but to deal Tavares, but that is probably going to happen later (February) rather than sooner. In the end, I would assume Bergevin is simply watching Tavares, dreaming, and maybe observing some other minor piece on the Islanders who could theoretically move in a blockbuster for Tavares. The problem is twofold: the Habs may not be well positioned for the playoffs as the deadline nears and even if they are you need Tavares to want to forgo free agency and sign a rich deal in Montreal.
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Post by blny on Oct 17, 2017 23:49:34 GMT -5
It is hard to say. For me I do not see why Snow wants to trade Leddy or Beaulivier. Maybe De Haan since he is UFA next year and if Tavares somehow stays there is definitely no room for another 3-4 million per year contract. Snow has certainly managed to accumulate a few bad long-term contracts like Clutterbuck, Cizikas, Ladd, and Boychuk. But I would certainly hope there is no way Bergevin wants any part of those guys. In the end, I think there is 50/50 chance he has no choice but to deal Tavares, but that is probably going to happen later (February) rather than sooner. In the end, I would assume Bergevin is simply watching Tavares, dreaming, and maybe observing some other minor piece on the Islanders who could theoretically move in a blockbuster for Tavares. The problem is twofold: the Habs may not be well positioned for the playoffs as the deadline nears and even if they are you need Tavares to want to forgo free agency and sign a rich deal in Montreal. I have a hard time imagining they trade Leddy or Beau, but we're talking about the Islanders. Tavares will definitely be a February thing, although if he'd be willing to talk extension right now ... |
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Post by madhabber on Oct 18, 2017 6:55:14 GMT -5
This is BargainBin we're talking about, he must be looking at more fourth liners or third pairing defensemen. And he's willing to pay top dollar for them.
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Post by Douper on Oct 18, 2017 13:49:08 GMT -5
It's MB...we will add Ladd
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Post by GNick99 on Oct 18, 2017 16:15:06 GMT -5
It is hard to say. For me I do not see why Snow wants to trade Leddy or Beaulivier. Maybe De Haan since he is UFA next year and if Tavares somehow stays there is definitely no room for another 3-4 million per year contract. Snow has certainly managed to accumulate a few bad long-term contracts like Clutterbuck, Cizikas, Ladd, and Boychuk. But I would certainly hope there is no way Bergevin wants any part of those guys. In the end, I think there is 50/50 chance he has no choice but to deal Tavares, but that is probably going to happen later (February) rather than sooner. In the end, I would assume Bergevin is simply watching Tavares, dreaming, and maybe observing some other minor piece on the Islanders who could theoretically move in a blockbuster for Tavares. The problem is twofold: the Habs may not be well positioned for the playoffs as the deadline nears and even if they are you need Tavares to want to forgo free agency and sign a rich deal in Montreal. For sure...on other hand a lot of pressure on Bergs to make a major move. If season is lost by Christmas....I would move Price before his new contract kicks in. He's not good enough to make a major difference this year, all he is doing is keep Habs drafting 10-12 instead of 1-3. Habs need skill. Plus, decent chance he turns into another Theodore. |
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Post by folatre on Oct 18, 2017 20:57:03 GMT -5
Mostly I agree, GNick. While I do not think his career falls off a cliff, for whatever reason it would not feel like trading St. Patrick.
If Price is willing, I would move him to a contender or out West or better yet to a contender out West. However, I fear it is impossible to move an $84 million dollar goalie contract. A club like Edmonton cannot take a contract like that.
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Post by frozone on Oct 19, 2017 8:31:31 GMT -5
Mostly I agree, GNick. While I do not think his career falls off a cliff, for whatever reason it would not feel like trading St. Patrick. If Price is willing, I would move him to a contender or out West or better yet to a contender out West. However, I fear it is impossible to move an $84 million dollar goalie contract. A club like Edmonton cannot take a contract like that. But a club like Vancouver... If we could trade Price for the Sedins' expiring contracts, their 1st rounder plus a prospect, I would do it. And with Benning, you can usually count on being able to land even more than fair value. Not to mention, Vancouver's lineup does not look good. I bet their 1st rounder is somewhere in the top 5. Those are the types of draft picks that we need, and there are few ways to get to into those draft positions. Either we dangle Price or we spend the entire season losing. Or both. It kinda hurts to think about trading away "the best goaltender in the world", but what's the point of having him on your team if he doesn't steal any playoff rounds? |
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Post by franko on Oct 19, 2017 9:46:52 GMT -5
But a club like Vancouver... If we could trade Price for the Sedins' expiring contracts, their 1st rounder plus a prospect, I would do it. And with Benning, you can usually count on being able to land even more than fair value. nice thought, but why would they do it? as do they. they have admitted to a half-tank, and their fans are actually calling for one . . . they'll put up with losing for a bit to get better. |
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Post by frozone on Oct 19, 2017 12:28:17 GMT -5
But a club like Vancouver... If we could trade Price for the Sedins' expiring contracts, their 1st rounder plus a prospect, I would do it. And with Benning, you can usually count on being able to land even more than fair value. nice thought, but why would they do it? 3 reasons: 1) Jim Benning 2) It gives them a return for the Sedins. If they're going to get anything for them at the deadline, I doubt there will be many teams that can afford to trade for both of them together. 3) They haven't had stability with their goaltending for a looong time. It might be too tempting for them to pass up the "best goaltender in the world" and (sorta) hometown boy. |
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Post by GNick99 on Oct 22, 2017 6:49:00 GMT -5
Mostly I agree, GNick. While I do not think his career falls off a cliff, for whatever reason it would not feel like trading St. Patrick. If Price is willing, I would move him to a contender or out West or better yet to a contender out West. However, I fear it is impossible to move an $84 million dollar goalie contract. A club like Edmonton cannot take a contract like that. But a club like Vancouver... If we could trade Price for the Sedins' expiring contracts, their 1st rounder plus a prospect, I would do it. And with Benning, you can usually count on being able to land even more than fair value. Not to mention, Vancouver's lineup does not look good. I bet their 1st rounder is somewhere in the top 5. Those are the types of draft picks that we need, and there are few ways to get to into those draft positions. Either we dangle Price or we spend the entire season losing. Or both. It kinda hurts to think about trading away "the best goaltender in the world", but what's the point of having him on your team if he doesn't steal any playoff rounds? I doubt we get that kind of return for Price. |
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Post by HFTO on Oct 23, 2017 17:43:05 GMT -5
With the way things are and if they should continue (the small window) to trade Price next July may have to be seriously explored
HFTO
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