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Post by blny on Apr 7, 2019 13:17:01 GMT -5
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Post by jkr on Apr 7, 2019 13:53:23 GMT -5
I thought the talk was that he wanted a winning situation. Games there are so poorly attended that I don't know how they keep the team going.
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Post by blny on Apr 7, 2019 14:19:05 GMT -5
I thought the talk was that he wanted a winning situation. Games there are so poorly attended that I don't know how they keep the team going. It's going to be really interesting to see how this plays out. Teams can't legally speak with players on other clubs, under contract, without permission. If he's signing with the Panthers on the condition that Panarin and Bob are signing there, it raises some very serious questions. |
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Post by Willie Dog on Apr 7, 2019 14:55:49 GMT -5
This will be a retirement contract... Fort Lauderdale, 5 year at least 20 mill... who wouldn't take that
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Post by blny on Apr 7, 2019 15:21:09 GMT -5
This will be a retirement contract... Fort Lauderdale, 5 year at least 20 mill... who wouldn't take that He's on record as saying he wanted to go somewhere that had a clear path to cup contention. Babcock got what, $8 million per from the Leafs? I can't see Joel taking a lot less. I expect 6-7 minimum. |
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Post by franko on Apr 7, 2019 15:58:37 GMT -5
I thought the talk was that he wanted a winning situation. Games there are so poorly attended that I don't know how they keep the team going. they are a coach away from the playoffs . . . which will lead to attendance. and then maybe they'll do an after game "jungle surge" thing. if I were Edmonton I'd say ok and wave bu-bye. |
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Post by jkr on Apr 7, 2019 17:18:16 GMT -5
This will be a retirement contract... Fort Lauderdale, 5 year at least 20 mill... who wouldn't take that He's on record as saying he wanted to go somewhere that had a clear path to cup contention. Babcock got what, $8 million per from the Leafs? I can't see Joel taking a lot less. I expect 6-7 minimum. Plus when it comes to Cups, it's Quenneville 3, Babcock 1. |
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Post by blny on Apr 7, 2019 17:31:07 GMT -5
He's on record as saying he wanted to go somewhere that had a clear path to cup contention. Babcock got what, $8 million per from the Leafs? I can't see Joel taking a lot less. I expect 6-7 minimum. Plus when it comes to Cups, it's Quenneville 3, Babcock 1. So $24 million a season then!  |
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Post by seventeen on Apr 7, 2019 23:37:10 GMT -5
We saw what a good coach (Trotz) can do for a team when it didn't have good structure. Quenneville signing with Florida would probably add more competition for those playoff spots.
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Post by blny on Apr 8, 2019 7:18:24 GMT -5
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Post by folatre on Apr 8, 2019 8:34:59 GMT -5
That is a big move. The Panthers have a nice core to work with.
I think that their front office has made some terrible moves over the last 24-30 months, tossing a really good coach to the curb and gutting the team's overall depth.
The lack of interest in this team in their own market is not hearsay; it is a fact. Florida's attendance numbers and local TV numbers are an absolute joke. Is the owner rich? Obviously, he bought the team during the 2014-15. But nothing about his stewardship of the club from 2015-2019 suggests he is willing to sustain operating losses and that is problematic when you are talking about running a revenue challenged club. This season was the first year that the Panthers were not in the bottom third of the league in player salary spending.
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Post by blny on Apr 8, 2019 8:48:53 GMT -5
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Post by blny on Apr 8, 2019 8:49:42 GMT -5
Bonuses are linked to playoff success. Unclear how much. 6 million looks to be the base.
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Post by NWTHabsFan on Apr 8, 2019 11:26:15 GMT -5
IMO, this is our main competition for fourth place in the division next year. Will Coach Q make the difference? He wanted to go to a contender. Florida are nowhere near there yet.
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Post by blny on Apr 8, 2019 12:31:44 GMT -5
IMO, this is our main competition for fourth place in the division next year. Will Coach Q make the difference? He wanted to go to a contender. Florida are nowhere near there yet. Likely right. He's got a lot of work to do to most of that group into players capable in all 3 zones. Sasha Barkov is considered one of the best two-way centers in the game and he was dragged down to a -8 this year. Hoffman and Matheson were both in the area of -24. Their fan base is high on a number of their prospects, perhaps most notably young Tippett. If they get Bob and Pan ... |
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Post by folatre on Apr 8, 2019 13:15:03 GMT -5
I hear you, it seems like a "going all in" type commitment promised to Quenneville to get him to come to a club that has probably made more foolish decisions over the last 2 or 2.5 years than any club in the league.
The Panthers have some great cap value contracts among their best offensive forwards. Trading any of those guys would be folly if their owner wants to go all in and win with Panarin and Bobrovsky. Therefore, I do not see logical scenarios where they shed salary in order to afford the two Russians. Therefore, adding those two would basically push into the range of being a cap ceiling ($83 million) team and with ticket prices being kind of middling and the season ticket holder base being puny that feels like a reach for an owner who has never shown a willingness in five years to ignore the whole issue of operating losses.
I don't know. The Panthers have a lot money invested in their top 4 d-men and I am not sure those guys are really as good as they were individually esteemed to be a couple of seasons ago.
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Post by Willie Dog on Apr 8, 2019 19:16:15 GMT -5
That is a big move. The Panthers have a nice core to work with. I think that their front office has made some terrible moves over the last 24-30 months, tossing a really good coach to the curb and gutting the team's overall depth. The lack of interest in this team in their own market is not hearsay; it is a fact. Florida's attendance numbers and local TV numbers are an absolute joke. Is the owner rich? Obviously, he bought the team during the 2014-15. But nothing about his stewardship of the club from 2015-2019 suggests he is willing to sustain operating losses and that is problematic when you are talking about running a revenue challenged club. This season was the first year that the Panthers were not in the bottom third of the league in player salary spending. I'm sure the revenue sharing from the Canadian teams help |
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