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Post by jkr on Jun 10, 2019 11:34:57 GMT -5
Is anybody else growing tired of the non stop game day coverage from our national broadcaster. I expect this from TSN & Sportsnet and even from the local news stations in Toronto. Of course, cover your team.
There is a lot going on in the country and the world but on last Friday and today you wouldn't know it. Every time I turn on Newsworld this morning I get a CBC reporter talking to some fan who has camped out for tickets - riveting stuff. And if they do want to cover sports how about the Cup Finals, the F1 race in Montreal or the women's World Cup of soccer? I'm sure there are pockets of interest around the country but I don't think this is the national story that they are making it out to be.
The CBC is supposed to represent the entire country but these last few days it is more Toronto centric than ever.
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Post by CentreHice on Jun 10, 2019 12:33:25 GMT -5
How about the ticket price for Game 5? Courtside....around $120,000/each! (Game 1 looks "affordable" now....a steal at $58,000!)
Cheap seats for tonight....$3300 or so.
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Post by Polarice on Jun 10, 2019 12:34:04 GMT -5
I don't mind the Raptors coverage, haven't noticed too much on CBC, mainly because I stopped watching anything CBC years ago.
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Post by CentreHice on Jun 10, 2019 12:37:07 GMT -5
I don't mind the Raptors coverage, haven't noticed too much on CBC, mainly because I stopped watching anything CBC years ago. I don't think you're alone. Without gov't (taxpayer) bailouts, they'd likely have gone under years ago.
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Post by Andrew on Jun 10, 2019 13:33:17 GMT -5
I love it. It's a pretty exciting storyline in the world of Canadian sports given the potential firsts for the Raptors, a Canadian team winning it and breaking a long drought in Canadian championships among the big 4 leagues.
Add to that, the Raptors identity embodies very Canadian values of hard work and humility. The team is all business. Here's video of them leaving the court after winning a second straight game on the road to go up 3-1 against the defending two time champions. It's hard not to jump on that bandwagon if you're a sports fan in Canada.
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Post by franko on Jun 10, 2019 14:45:01 GMT -5
I don't mind the Raptors coverage, haven't noticed too much on CBC, mainly because I stopped watching anything CBC years ago. I don't think you're alone. Without gov't (taxpayer) bailouts, they'd likely have gone under years ago. a billion dollar budget and they're out fighting for ad revenue. hey, Justin, rather than throwing a few dollars to help out the "other" media outlets who have to fight against an already subsidized CBC, why not just the the MotherCorp to live within their budget and fulfill their mandate. if I were Scheer, I'd tell the people of Canada that CBC will continue to receive their budget (rather than slashing it) but that they had to go ad-free.
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Post by Tankdriver on Jun 10, 2019 14:45:38 GMT -5
I love it. It's a pretty exciting storyline in the world of Canadian sports given the potential firsts for the Raptors, a Canadian team winning it and breaking a long drought in Canadian championships among the big 4 leagues. Add to that, the Raptors identity embodies very Canadian values of hard work and humility. The team is all business. Here's video of them leaving the court after winning a second straight game on the road to go up 3-1 against the defending two time champions. It's hard not to jump on that bandwagon if you're a sports fan in Canada. I'm loving it. I've seen probably over 3/4 of their games this playoffs, only missing them due to work. In context, I have watched a grand total of maybe 20 mins of playoff hockey. The Raptors are facing a superteam (4 starting hall of famers if Durant plays tonight), and Toronto can be a 1 and done with Kawaii if he leaves this summer. This is their best chance of winning it all. It is putting basketball on the map in Canada. We are talking around 5 million people watching in canada behind the Canadian olympic hockey team in 2010, and the Jays run a few seasons ago for most watched sporting event in Canada.
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Post by jkr on Jun 10, 2019 18:25:41 GMT -5
I understand the coverage on the sports networks & the Toronto stations. What bugs be is CBC Newsworld. This is my go to place for news with a Canadian slant. Some coverage of this story is fine. But again today, it seems to be the lead story.
I turn on Newsworld at 7PM expecting intelligent discussion of important issues; not pre game coverage of a sporting event. It's not the place for it & they should leave it to the sports networks.
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Post by franko on Jun 10, 2019 19:56:14 GMT -5
I understand the coverage on the sports networks & the Toronto stations. What bugs be is CBC Newsworld. This is my go to place for news with a Canadian slant. Some coverage of this story is fine. But again today, it seems to be the lead story. that's because it is the story. it's caught the Canadian imagination, either because it is feel-good and there are no Canadian hockey teams in the SC Final, or because the media blitz has made it so. regardless, it is the rare station panders to the Toronto Canadian audience that would not dwell on it. agree, but . . . the CBC is after the advertising dollar, and the advertising dollar is following the Raptors right now. and I'll let Cranky discuss intelligent discussion and the CBC
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Post by CentreHice on Jun 11, 2019 10:16:32 GMT -5
Couple of questions.
1. What was Lowry thinking when he let the shot clock expire late? 2. Why didn't the Raptors go for 2 for the win, instead of Lowry for a corner 3 at the buzzer? I know Leonard was double-teamed, but doesn't that open up a lane for a man in the paint? Drive and get fouled.
Could we be seeing another Toronto "choke" occurring? If the Warriors force a Game 7, all bets are off.
The hype continues...
I wonder how much Game 7 courtside would run. One's house, most likely.
Where's all this money coming from? Are companies still allowed to write-off "entertainment" expenditures?
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Post by Andrew on Jun 11, 2019 11:34:59 GMT -5
Couple of questions. 1. What was Lowry thinking when he let the shot clock expire late? 2. Why didn't the Raptors go for 2 for the win, instead of Lowry for a corner 3 at the buzzer? I know Leonard was double-teamed, but doesn't that open up a lane for a man in the paint? Drive and get fouled. Not sure about the first question, but for #2 I believe that the Warriors still had a foul to give before the Raptors would automatically go to free throws. Any drive inside and the Warriors would have fouled. Following that the Raptors would have had to inbound and get a shot off really fast, likely without setting up properly. In this case they had a chance to setup a less rushed shot, however, it backfired as Green did a great job of getting a hand on the shot and making sure it didn't count. The big story this morning is whether Nurse lost the game by calling a timeout with 3 minutes to go when the Raps were on a huge run and Leonard had just put up 10 points to give them the lead. Following the timeout, the rested Warriors responded with a big 9-2 run to win the game.
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Post by CentreHice on Jun 11, 2019 11:58:50 GMT -5
Couple of questions. 1. What was Lowry thinking when he let the shot clock expire late? 2. Why didn't the Raptors go for 2 for the win, instead of Lowry for a corner 3 at the buzzer? I know Leonard was double-teamed, but doesn't that open up a lane for a man in the paint? Drive and get fouled. Not sure about the first question, but for #2 I believe that the Warriors still had a foul to give before the Raptors would automatically go to free throws. Any drive inside and the Warriors would have fouled. Following that the Raptors would have had to inbound and get a shot off really fast, likely without setting up properly. In this case they had a chance to setup a less rushed shot, however, it backfired as Green did a great job of getting a hand on the shot and making sure it didn't count. The big story this morning is whether Nurse lost the game by calling a timeout with 3 minutes to go when the Raps were on a huge run and Leonard had just put up 10 points to give them the lead. Following the timeout, the rested Warriors responded with a big 9-2 run to win the game. Thanks, Andrew. Good point about Nurse perhaps breaking the momentum with the T/O. I thought GS called it. Had the volume down.
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Post by Tankdriver on Jun 11, 2019 12:21:04 GMT -5
The Raps lost because they couldn't hit a 3 and the Warriors were hitting all of them. Fred Vanvleet was a non show as was Danny Green.
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Post by Polarice on Jun 11, 2019 14:00:38 GMT -5
The Raps lost because they couldn't hit a 3 and the Warriors were hitting all of them. Fred Vanvleet was a non show as was Danny Green. It was said on SC that if the Raps shot their average shooting numbers it would have equaled another 36 points. That's how bad they shot.
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Post by Disgruntled70sHab on Jun 12, 2019 14:21:52 GMT -5
The big story this morning is whether Nurse lost the game by calling a timeout with 3 minutes to go when the Raps were on a huge run and Leonard had just put up 10 points to give them the lead. Following the timeout, the rested Warriors responded with a big 9-2 run to win the game. This is the question I had ... what was Nurse thinking by calling that timeout ... I don't have a crystal ball but it's possible that late run would have iced it for the Raptors ... Cheers.
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Post by Disgruntled70sHab on Jun 12, 2019 14:45:41 GMT -5
I understand the coverage on the sports networks & the Toronto stations. What bugs be is CBC Newsworld. This is my go to place for news with a Canadian slant. Some coverage of this story is fine. But again today, it seems to be the lead story. I turn on Newsworld at 7PM expecting intelligent discussion of important issues; not pre game coverage of a sporting event. It's not the place for it & they should leave it to the sports networks. I used to tune in to CBC for my news, but I found that they didn't always report the whole story ... sometimes it would only be their version of it ... I'm not saying other news agencies don't do it, but CBC was once my go-to for news but in recent years I've just had to move on ... as for the Raptor-centric coverage right now, I'm watching the games, but I won't watch too much of the postgame coverage ... TSN's dysfunctional dynamic duo of Dan O'Toole & Jay Onrait are making the city of Toronto the primary story and the Raptors are second to that (that's only me, though, fellas) ... it was the same with their Leaf coverage ... I even remember Onrait going on about how they would provide Leaf news even though the Leafs had already been eliminated ... Toronto, Toronto, Toronto yada-yada-yada ... as for the Raptors, well, I woke up a Raptor's fan just as soon as they eliminated the Milwaukee Bucks ... I haven't taken in all the games, but I've watched a lot of the final ... I'm okay with the coverage so long as the primary focus remains on the Raptors ... the city of Toronto should be proud of their team, but the city, itself, should not be the main focus ... Cheers.
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Post by Polarice on Jun 13, 2019 9:10:57 GMT -5
I understand the coverage on the sports networks & the Toronto stations. What bugs be is CBC Newsworld. This is my go to place for news with a Canadian slant. Some coverage of this story is fine. But again today, it seems to be the lead story. I turn on Newsworld at 7PM expecting intelligent discussion of important issues; not pre game coverage of a sporting event. It's not the place for it & they should leave it to the sports networks. I used to tune in to CBC for my news, but I found that they didn't always report the whole story ... sometimes it would only be their version of it ... I'm not saying other news agencies don't do it, but CBC was once my go-to for news but in recent years I've just had to move on ... as for the Raptor-centric coverage right now, I'm watching the games, but I won't watch too much of the postgame coverage ... TSN's dysfunctional dynamic duo of Dan O'Toole & Jay Onrait are making the city of Toronto the primary story and the Raptors are second to that (that's only me, though, fellas) ... it was the same with their Leaf coverage ... I even remember Onrait going on about how they would provide Leaf news even though the Leafs had already been eliminated ... Toronto, Toronto, Toronto yada-yada-yada ... as for the Raptors, well, I woke up a Raptor's fan just as soon as they eliminated the Milwaukee Bucks ... I haven't taken in all the games, but I've watched a lot of the final ... I'm okay with the coverage so long as the primary focus remains on the Raptors ... the city of Toronto should be proud of their team, but the city, itself, should not be the main focus ... Cheers. Jay and Dan were making fun of the Toronto media and their fans when they mentioned talking about the Leafs even if they were out of the playoffs....neither are Leaf fans.
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Post by Cranky on Jun 13, 2019 13:39:23 GMT -5
I understand the coverage on the sports networks & the Toronto stations. What bugs be is CBC Newsworld. This is my go to place for news with a Canadian slant. Some coverage of this story is fine. But again today, it seems to be the lead story. that's because it is the story. it's caught the Canadian imagination, either because it is feel-good and there are no Canadian hockey teams in the SC Final, or because the media blitz has made it so. regardless, it is the rare station panders to the Toronto Canadian audience that would not dwell on it. agree, but . . . the CBC is after the advertising dollar, and the advertising dollar is following the Raptors right now. and I'll let Cranky discuss intelligent discussion and the CBC The CBC? LOL Unfortunately, unlike the Pravda Star calling and begging for subscriptions, I can't tell them were to go......
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Post by jkr on Jun 13, 2019 19:16:42 GMT -5
We can have varying opinions on the CBC but I think we can agree that the point of a program called Newsworld is to deliver news.
Sure, sometimes sports crosses over into the realm of news but it seems Newsworld doesn't know where to draw the line. I turned it on tonight & they are covering a Raptors press conference. If I wanted to see that, I would go to a sports broadcaster, not a national news provider.
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Post by CentreHice on Jun 14, 2019 0:26:12 GMT -5
Very deserving champs.
Good on 'em.
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Post by franko on Jun 14, 2019 5:59:18 GMT -5
be a lot of "what ifs" (there always are).injuries really hurt GS. but good on the Raptors for taking advantage of the situation.
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Post by Andrew on Jun 14, 2019 11:54:13 GMT -5
Way to go Raptors! What an exciting game, start to finish. A lot of players really stepped up for them.
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Post by Disgruntled70sHab on Jun 14, 2019 12:26:50 GMT -5
I used to tune in to CBC for my news, but I found that they didn't always report the whole story ... sometimes it would only be their version of it ... I'm not saying other news agencies don't do it, but CBC was once my go-to for news but in recent years I've just had to move on ... as for the Raptor-centric coverage right now, I'm watching the games, but I won't watch too much of the postgame coverage ... TSN's dysfunctional dynamic duo of Dan O'Toole & Jay Onrait are making the city of Toronto the primary story and the Raptors are second to that (that's only me, though, fellas) ... it was the same with their Leaf coverage ... I even remember Onrait going on about how they would provide Leaf news even though the Leafs had already been eliminated ... Toronto, Toronto, Toronto yada-yada-yada ... as for the Raptors, well, I woke up a Raptor's fan just as soon as they eliminated the Milwaukee Bucks ... I haven't taken in all the games, but I've watched a lot of the final ... I'm okay with the coverage so long as the primary focus remains on the Raptors ... the city of Toronto should be proud of their team, but the city, itself, should not be the main focus ... Cheers. Jay and Dan were making fun of the Toronto media and their fans when they mentioned talking about the Leafs even if they were out of the playoffs....neither are Leaf fans. Now, this is news to me (chuckles) ... you mean Jay and Dan were patronizing Leaf fans ... I may have to tune in a little more than I do now (which is rare) ... more chuckles ... Cheers.
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Post by CentreHice on Jun 15, 2019 9:43:22 GMT -5
This all started, as with the Leafs, when Tim Leiweke came aboard MLSE and shook things up with hockey, basketball, and soccer.
Competence hiring competence hiring competence.....not afraid to let go of Casey who'd just won "Coach of the Year". Some say the move was made in order to keep Nurse on board, who'd been running the team's offense under Casey, and was likely looking for a head coaching position. Whatever....it paid off huge.
I expect Ujiri to bolster the team....especially if Leonard stays. And why wouldn't he? He's on a champion that supported him fully....Game 6 was a great example of that.
Add another key piece..
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Post by franko on Jun 15, 2019 10:09:36 GMT -5
I expect Ujiri to bolster the team.... especially if Leonard stays. And why wouldn't he? He's on a champion that supported him fully....Game 6 was a great example of that. and he has options. big bucks if he signs for 5 years with the Raptors instead of four with anyone else; he can sign a one-and-one (option) to see how the year goes for big bucks (but then he takes the "Karlsson risk")
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Post by GNick99 on Sept 7, 2020 5:39:07 GMT -5
Raptors played good game last night. Come back and tied the Celtics 2-2. They were down 2-0 first 2 games. Won game 3 in last second. Nurse said he got the play from watching an old Hubie Brook video from the 80s.
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Post by seventeen on Sept 7, 2020 12:34:18 GMT -5
There were at least 4 things that had to be executed perfectly for Anunoby to make that shot. Mostly the recognition from Lowry as to what was happening as players were scrambling and who would be open. Then there was the 7 foot 5 inch guy in front of Lowry which required a perfect pass, to a spot where OG could already be in his motion, gathering his legs. Lowry managed that and OG got the shot off milliseconds before Jaylen Brown (an excellent defender) got his hand up for a deflection. There have actually been games won in less than .5 seconds I believe, and they almost always require a throw toward the basket for someone to deflect. That's what Boston was focused on.
The series isn't over yet, but the Celtics were dealt a mighty blow with that play and they did not respond well in Game 4. Course, the Raps were energized by that play and some of the guys started playing to their abilities. They're still having to play their top guys too many minutes. They really need a couple more bench guys to step up.
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