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Post by blny on Jun 17, 2019 9:24:07 GMT -5
8x11 million
per McKenzie and Lebrun
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Post by jkr on Jun 17, 2019 9:47:02 GMT -5
I could live with that money but the term is scary for a guy with his injury history.
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Post by folatre on Jun 17, 2019 9:53:07 GMT -5
Very risky deal for San Jose. But if the Sharks can hoist the Cup then it will not matter a whole lot if injuries plague portions of the remainder of Karlsson's career.
I wonder if Doug Wilson wants to keep the whole gang together, including Thornton and Pavelski? Money will be tight.
Maybe Bergevin should try to offer sheet Timo Meier.
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Post by blny on Jun 17, 2019 11:22:26 GMT -5
McKenzie now reporting it could be as much as $11.5 million per. No official announcement from Sharks yet. I think they'll live to regret it. He lost a step with the ankle repair. Who knows what he'll be like after the groin repair - those things tend to be permanent afflictions once they crop up. Excluding Karlsson, they have $30 million committed to Burns, Vlasic, Couture and Kane. They need to sign, or replace, Pavelski. And Thornton. Labanc and Meier are RFAs and will require significant raises. Which Martin Jones will they get in goal? He's getting paid $5.75 million a year. He rebounded some in the playoffs, but spent much of the season looking like a backup goalie. $30 million, $5.75 for Jones, call it a $7 million x 3 year deal for Pavelski, Meier is going to take about $6 million x 6 years to sign, Labanc something very close, and a "what's leftover" for Joe if he decides to play another year. That's more than $54 million. Dell, Hertl, M. Karlsson, Sorenson, Braun and Dillion represent another $18.2 million. That's $73 million. They have to sign/replace Donskoi, Nyqvist, etc. This all puts them on the verge of cap hell and tied to a lot of guys 30 or over. I'm sitting here wondering if there's an older team in the league ... www.capfriendly.com/teams/sharks |
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Post by BadCompany on Jun 17, 2019 12:04:28 GMT -5
Well he certainly didn't give them a home-town discount, now did he?
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Post by seventeen on Jun 17, 2019 12:38:04 GMT -5
Rats. No elite guys left other than Panarin who definitely isn't signing here. That kind of throws a wrench in 'the Plan'.  Offer sheet, anyone? |
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Post by franko on Jun 17, 2019 13:27:16 GMT -5
Well he certainly didn't give them a home-town discount, now did he? didn't expect him to. he said from the beginning that he wanted money and lots of it -- Doughty money. 8 years. and we're going to regret Weber? |
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Post by blny on Jun 17, 2019 13:38:00 GMT -5
Well he certainly didn't give them a home-town discount, now did he? didn't expect him to. he said from the beginning that he wanted money and lots of it -- Doughty money. 8 years. and we're going to regret Weber? I still wouldn't have necessarily done the deal, but I don't regret the contract that came with him. |
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Post by blny on Jun 17, 2019 13:44:57 GMT -5
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Post by Polarice on Jun 17, 2019 13:46:57 GMT -5
McKenzie now reporting it could be as much as $11.5 million per. No official announcement from Sharks yet. I think they'll live to regret it. He lost a step with the ankle repair. Who knows what he'll be like after the groin repair - those things tend to be permanent afflictions once they crop up. Excluding Karlsson, they have $30 million committed to Burns, Vlasic, Couture and Kane. They need to sign, or replace, Pavelski. And Thornton. Labanc and Meier are RFAs and will require significant raises. Which Martin Jones will they get in goal? He's getting paid $5.75 million a year. He rebounded some in the playoffs, but spent much of the season looking like a backup goalie. $30 million, $5.75 for Jones, call it a $7 million x 3 year deal for Pavelski, Meier is going to take about $6 million x 6 years to sign, Labanc something very close, and a "what's leftover" for Joe if he decides to play another year. That's more than $54 million. Dell, Hertl, M. Karlsson, Sorenson, Braun and Dillion represent another $18.2 million. That's $73 million. They have to sign/replace Donskoi, Nyqvist, etc. This all puts them on the verge of cap hell and tied to a lot of guys 30 or over. I'm sitting here wondering if there's an older team in the league ... www.capfriendly.com/teams/sharksTSN is confirming it's 8 years at 11.5, for a total of 92 million. |
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Post by franko on Jun 17, 2019 14:17:50 GMT -5
guess his wife is going to have to put up with the warm California sun rather than frigid Ottawa winters.
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Post by Willie Dog on Jun 17, 2019 14:19:29 GMT -5
guess his wife is going to have to put up with the warm California sun rather than frigid Ottawa winters. They can afford to have the whole family quit work, move out there and live with them. |
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Post by Cranky on Jun 17, 2019 14:23:25 GMT -5
Let this be the...8,976,478 example of the *if x team makes a good offer" bull puck declarations.
These players only interest is their own pockets and fans need to take the exact same attitude. "Build a winner or boycott"....yeah, right. Like it's going to happen in Montreal.....
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Post by Cranky on Jun 17, 2019 14:24:25 GMT -5
guess his wife is going to have to put up with the warm California sun rather than frigid Ottawa winters. Did you believe any of it? |
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Post by Boston_Habs on Jun 17, 2019 16:15:20 GMT -5
Not surprised San Jose wanted him back. My hope was that he just wanted to come back East, but let's be honest. It's hard to beat the California lifestyle and if you have a lot of money the Bay Area is a fabulous place to live.
Plus the Sharks are good. Karlsson probably saw the Blues hoist the Cup and figured that could have been San Jose had they not been decimated by injuries at the worst time.
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Post by franko on Jun 17, 2019 17:30:15 GMT -5
Not surprised San Jose wanted him back. My hope was that he just wanted to come back East, but let's be honest. It's hard to beat the California lifestyle and if you have a lot of money the Bay Area is a fabulous place to live. an awful lot of money given for him. that much was expected but I think SJ is going to be the loser in the long run his own first and foremost. my cynical/skeptical side comes out to SJ and their expensive aging d and inconsistent g |
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Post by blny on Jun 17, 2019 18:05:37 GMT -5
Some reports indicate the cap may not hit the expected $83 million. VGK is over that number now because of Clarkson's contract. Yah, that contract. The Sharks will be in real trouble after they sign key RFAs. They can let Thornton walk, but a replacement won't be any cheaper.
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Post by seventeen on Jun 17, 2019 18:09:11 GMT -5
Not surprised San Jose wanted him back. My hope was that he just wanted to come back East, but let's be honest. It's hard to beat the California lifestyle and if you have a lot of money the Bay Area is a fabulous place to live. Plus the Sharks are good. Karlsson probably saw the Blues hoist the Cup and figured that could have been San Jose had they not been decimated by injuries at the worst time. Spme key Sharks are pretty old. Their two key ones, to me, are Couture and Pavelski. Couture is 30 and Pavelski will be 35 in July. Thornton is done, so that's a lot of centre ice talent that is not being replaced. They could be the next Nashville Predators with a great defense and no scoring. Hertl's there, I guess, but that's one replacing 3 (in due course). |
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Post by Disgruntled70sHab on Jun 17, 2019 18:32:12 GMT -5
Not surprised San Jose wanted him back. My hope was that he just wanted to come back East, but let's be honest. It's hard to beat the California lifestyle and if you have a lot of money the Bay Area is a fabulous place to live. an awful lot of money given for him. that much was expected but I think SJ is going to be the loser in the long run his own first and foremost. my cynical/skeptical side comes out to SJ and their expensive aging d and inconsistent g I really think you might be right, Franko ... the oldest to youngest/Vice-Versa teams are as follows * ... The oldest ...LA Kings, 28.7 Minnesota, 28.7 Vegas, 28.7 Pittsburgh, 28.5 San Jose, 28.4 The youngest ... Carolina, 25.7 Winnipeg, 25.8 Columbus, 25.8 Edmonton, 25.9 Montreal, 26.0 |
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Post by franko on Jun 17, 2019 20:27:44 GMT -5
Some reports indicate the cap may not hit the expected $83 million. $82 might even be a stretch. keep Clarkson on IR I guess. Karlsson's going to want a payday. plus they need to sign another 4 roster players $26.5 in d-men, to 23-24 |
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Post by blny on Jun 18, 2019 5:22:39 GMT -5
Some reports indicate the cap may not hit the expected $83 million. $82 might even be a stretch. keep Clarkson on IR I guess. Karlsson's going to want a payday. plus they need to sign another 4 roster players $26.5 in d-men, to 23-24 Yes, I should have clarified they can LTIR the contract come september, but it still limits them. |
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Post by Tankdriver on Jun 18, 2019 13:30:57 GMT -5
It's amazing have a little news about wanting to come back east made the Sharks throw out the offer Karlsson wanted. Lets face it, he has wanted more money than Doughty since the beginning.
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Post by Willie Dog on Jun 18, 2019 15:18:30 GMT -5
It's amazing have a little news about wanting to come back east made the Sharks throw out the offer Karlsson wanted. Lets face it, he has wanted more money than Doughty since the beginning. It will be an anchor in 2 years or they'll luck out and he'll go on ltir |
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