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Post by blny on Dec 12, 2019 6:34:05 GMT -5
Deboer and most of staff relieved. Video coach remains as Boughner named interim head coach. Ricci and Nabakov among new assistants.
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Post by folatre on Dec 12, 2019 9:25:39 GMT -5
Desperate times in San Jose. The Sharks have been contenders for years. Clearly ownership and GM Wilson have bet big time on this veteran core, so I guess you cannot blame them for changing about the only thing that they can change. Whether or not this has any significant lasting impact on the team's performance is hard to say. If Jones and Dell cannot stop pucks then it probably will not matter much who is standing behind the bench.
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Post by franko on Dec 12, 2019 9:48:26 GMT -5
If Jones and Dell cannot stop pucks then it probably will not matter much who is standing behind the bench. exactly. unless Boughner can stop pucks they are in trouble. no cap space, Karlsson @ 11.5, Burns @8, Vlasic @ 7! . . . Kane @7, Couture @8, Meire and Hertl (hurt) 11.6 combined. then a bunch of fillers who aren't filling. and Jones and Dell who aren't stopping anything. not looking good for them, and the Sens are salivating. |
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Post by blny on Dec 12, 2019 10:34:16 GMT -5
Nearly $40 million committed anywhere from 5 years to 7 years beyond this to Burns, Karlsson, Jones, and Kane. It's been said by regular watchers that Jones' play is barely AHL caliber atm. Kane is the youngest of that quartet. There's another $15 million a year committed to Couture and Vlasic. That's $45 million committed to guys with an average current age of 30.3. The average age at contract expiry is 36.3. That's not good.
Hertl and Meier have struggled this year. They're the young guys that need to start carrying the load. Their prospect pool is non-existent and they don't have a first round pick this year. That's two potential lottery picks for the Sens this year, and suddenly things turn the corner very quickly for them.
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Post by Deleted on Dec 12, 2019 10:42:15 GMT -5
I'm mildly amused that they had to confirm that the firing was for "hockey-related reasons."
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Post by folatre on Dec 12, 2019 10:48:48 GMT -5
Good synopsis of San Jose's unique cap structure, blny.
Ottawa could indeed be in good shape with draft picks. Though it seems that their odds of getting a top two pick in the draft are going to smaller than was estimated by many people when the season started.
I remain a skeptic about Ottawa being well positioned to keep top players long-term. Their arena is inadequate, their attendance is terrible, their owner is not willing to top off the club's revenue with his own cash in order to spend like most other clubs. I know that they got Chabot and White to sign long-term deals but real litmus test will probably be Brady Tkachuk because old man Tkachuk forced his way out of Winnipeg back in the day and Matthew played hard ball with Calgary and got $7 million per while giving up zero UFA seasons.
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Post by Tankdriver on Dec 12, 2019 11:09:41 GMT -5
Good synopsis of San Jose's unique cap structure, blny. Ottawa could indeed be in good shape with draft picks. Though it seems that their odds of getting a top two pick in the draft are going to smaller than was estimated by many people when the season started. I remain a skeptic about Ottawa being well positioned to keep top players long-term. Their arena is inadequate, their attendance is terrible, their owner is not willing to top off the club's revenue with his own cash in order to spend like most other clubs. I know that they got Chabot and White to sign long-term deals but real litmus test will probably be Brady Tkachuk because old man Tkachuk forced his way out of Winnipeg back in the day and Matthew played hard ball with Calgary and got $7 million per while giving up zero UFA seasons. Atleast Ottawa stripped it down, tanked a few seasons and have a chance to rebuild something potentially interesting. Their only mistake was the Duchesne trade (to get), and that's because they were going for it. They may be out performing a bit this year but soon Pageau will be gone for a nice return so that should drop them down a bit. In the NHL, you either got to be aggressive and go for it, or strip it down and rebuild it...mediocre is death. |
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Post by blny on Dec 12, 2019 12:24:40 GMT -5
Good synopsis of San Jose's unique cap structure, blny. Ottawa could indeed be in good shape with draft picks. Though it seems that their odds of getting a top two pick in the draft are going to smaller than was estimated by many people when the season started. I remain a skeptic about Ottawa being well positioned to keep top players long-term. Their arena is inadequate, their attendance is terrible, their owner is not willing to top off the club's revenue with his own cash in order to spend like most other clubs. I know that they got Chabot and White to sign long-term deals but real litmus test will probably be Brady Tkachuk because old man Tkachuk forced his way out of Winnipeg back in the day and Matthew played hard ball with Calgary and got $7 million per while giving up zero UFA seasons. Thanks. I think Ottawa will end up missing the playoffs. We'll see if the Sharks turn things around. They need to. It would look bad on them, given their prospect situation, if Ottawa nabbed a very high pick from that trade. Imagine if the Sens get 2 top ten picks, or top 5 picks, this year. They've got some quality young pieces already |
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Post by jkr on Dec 12, 2019 14:17:52 GMT -5
I'm surprised to see the whole staff go in mid season. Don't think I've seen that before.
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Post by NWTHabsFan on Dec 12, 2019 14:59:35 GMT -5
Hockey is, and should be a result based business. DeBoer's track record for his four seasons leading up to this year was losing in the Final and in each of the 1st/2nd/3rd rounds. Four out of four making the playoffs, and six series wins in that span.
Compare to Berg's tenure. His AHL team has won a grand total of one playoff game and participating in the playoffs only once in his 7 years and counting, and his NHL franchise missed the playoffs in three of the last four years (and will likely be a bubble team this year again once the dust settles in April). Add in flip flopping PP and PK special teams flirting with the bottom of the league too in that time. Yet, he keeps going back to the well for the most part other than firing Lefebvre after six years and Therrien after 4+.
Different standards of performance it would appear.
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Post by jkr on Dec 12, 2019 15:49:22 GMT -5
Bergevin is like a university prof with tenure. Nothing short of some serious moral failure will get him out of this job.
Does Molson tolerate the same level of incompetence from his brewery employees? My guess would be no effing way. Why does he allow Bergevin to lurch from one year to the next while reciting his mantra " you never know what can happen"
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Post by franko on Dec 12, 2019 16:56:05 GMT -5
Bergevin is like a university prof with tenure. Nothing short of some serious moral failure will get him out of this job. Does Molson tolerate the same level of incompetence from his brewery employees? My guess would be no effing way. Why does he allow Bergevin to lurch from one year to the next while reciting his mantra " you never know what can happen" I lose. One day. One freaking day. That's all it took for the invitation to post all of the Bergevin/Molson rants to be put on a specific thread to be bypassed. Sad. I had an over/under of 2. |
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Post by jkr on Dec 12, 2019 18:25:29 GMT -5
Bergevin is like a university prof with tenure. Nothing short of some serious moral failure will get him out of this job. Does Molson tolerate the same level of incompetence from his brewery employees? My guess would be no effing way. Why does he allow Bergevin to lurch from one year to the next while reciting his mantra " you never know what can happen" I lose. One day. One freaking day. That's all it took for the invitation to post all of the Bergevin/Molson rants to be put on a specific thread to be bypassed. Sad. I had an over/under of 2. Didn't mean to bypass anything; I didn't even think about it. I was just following the thoughts expressed by NWT. |
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