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Post by NWTHabsFan on Jan 15, 2020 10:40:55 GMT -5
Gallant out, DeBoer in. Wow.
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Post by Polarice on Jan 15, 2020 11:18:07 GMT -5
Wow....I haven't been following the Knights really this year, I didn't think they were playing that bad. Has to be another reason why they let him go.
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Post by Tankdriver on Jan 15, 2020 11:41:01 GMT -5
Wow. That's unexpected. He won't be out of work for long.
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Post by blny on Jan 15, 2020 12:02:06 GMT -5
Absolutely nuts. GG had a .601 winning percentage.
GG confirmed as Pacific coach for all star.
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Post by Willie Dog on Jan 15, 2020 12:18:12 GMT -5
Always liked GG... Seemed to be very good with the players.
Can we dump Muller and bring GG back?
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Post by NWTHabsFan on Jan 15, 2020 13:21:13 GMT -5
Always liked GG... Seemed to be very good with the players. Can we dump Muller and bring GG back? He will get head coaching offers...and probably not too far away. I don't see us getting him as an associate coach, although it would be a very good move for us. I expect another head will fall to make room for GG. They were 4-6 in their last 10. Guess they don't have Huggy Bear Geoffy in charge of defining poor performance. |
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Post by folatre on Jan 15, 2020 13:46:38 GMT -5
I did not see that coming.
Gallant is a good coach and his record in Vegas was really strong. As Tank said, he will not be out of work long unless he wants to take a few months to decompress.
I would imagine offers will be there immediately. Gallant's old buddy, Yzerman, would probably love to have him though i would see that happening sometime down the line when the Wings have a competitive team on the ice.
Bergevin knows Gallant well (and respects him as a person and coach), but I highly doubt Molson would allow Bergevin to hire him. First, there is the language issue since Gallant is not a French speaker. Also, there are 10 million dollars remaining on Julien's contract after this season. Last, Molson may not be inclined to give the coach hire keys to Bergevin for a third time.
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Post by blny on Jan 15, 2020 14:38:26 GMT -5
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Post by Willie Dog on Jan 15, 2020 15:14:30 GMT -5
Always liked GG... Seemed to be very good with the players. Can we dump Muller and bring GG back? He will get head coaching offers...and probably not too far away. I don't see us getting him as an associate coach, although it would be a very good move for us. I expect another head will fall to make room for GG. They were 4-6 in their last 10. Guess they don't have Huggy Bear Geoffy in charge of defining poor performance. Huggy Bear... I can see young Geoffey patrolling Ste. Catherine street on a Saturday night after the game dressed like this.  |
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Post by jkr on Jan 15, 2020 16:33:46 GMT -5
I don't get the last couple of changes. In Nashville & Vegas, IMO, the guys coming in are not better than the guys that got fired. In fact, they were both fired themselves, this season. How is that better?
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Post by seventeen on Jan 15, 2020 17:56:32 GMT -5
Always liked GG... Seemed to be very good with the players. Can we dump Muller and bring GG back? He will get head coaching offers...and probably not too far away. I don't see us getting him as an associate coach, although it would be a very good move for us. I expect another head will fall to make room for GG. They were 4-6 in their last 10. Guess they don't have Huggy Bear Geoffy in charge of defining poor performance. I know this is a tiring phrase, but it's true so often, in so many ways, that you can't afford to ignore it - "Show me a great goaltender and I'll show you a great coach". It always comes back to goaltending. Fleury has been inconsistent as hell this year. That first year he had a .927 save %. Last year it was .913. This year so far, its .906. Malcolm Subban, who has played 16 games, is .898. I guess owners (usually it's the owner putting pressure on the GM and this owner is feeling a less than dominating experience for the first time) just don't have the patience necessary. Also, these guys have usually been winners most of their lives (through talent, effort or just cheating). In the NHL, there is one winner out of 31 teams. Guess what? There are going to be a lot of losers...amongst a group of guys who aren't used to losing (except for trust fund babies of course). They think they can actuallly influence the outcome by taking furious action. The St. Louis experience last year was a really bad outcome for a lot of coaches. The Blues were a pretty good team that never managed to solve their goaltending problem (there's that axiom again). They fire their coach and everyone forgets that they brought in a new goalie not long after that and that's the reason they won the Cup. Sure Berube was different from a guy who had an addiction problem, and that had to help, but that was a hugely outlier situation and is not about to repeat itself anytime soon. Gallant is not an idiot. Deboer is no better. Unless he can influence Fleury, the Knights are who they are, a decent team that might win the cup if Fleury gets hot. Sheesh, they should have won it last year. I'd have bet on them over the Blues. |
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Post by franko on Jan 15, 2020 18:30:57 GMT -5
Gallant is not an idiot. Deboer is no better. well, according to Gallant Deboer is a clown, so who knows about the coaching ranks. |
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Post by seventeen on Jan 16, 2020 1:32:19 GMT -5
Gallant is not an idiot. Deboer is no better. well, according to Gallant Deboer is a clown, so who knows about the coaching ranks. I should have clarified. They both have reputations as good coaches. That's what I meant. Deboer is no better than Gallant and vice versa. Theylre both good (as much as I know, anyway) |
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Post by franko on Jan 16, 2020 7:07:27 GMT -5
well, according to Gallant Deboer is a clown, so who knows about the coaching ranks. I should have clarified. They both have reputations as good coaches. That's what I meant. Deboer is no better than Gallant and vice versa. Theylre both good (as much as I know, anyway) ya, I realize that. during the playoffs last year Gallant called Deboer a clown. was just trying to be . . . well, obviously I failed at whatever it was. maybe I'm no more than a clown myself (and speaking of clowns, M. Beaux-Eaux is still MIA . . . he got out early!). |
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Post by NWTHabsFan on Jan 16, 2020 11:12:45 GMT -5
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Post by blny on Jan 16, 2020 12:07:10 GMT -5
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Post by folatre on Jan 16, 2020 13:23:30 GMT -5
John Scott...that's classic.
Back to Gallant for a second, how did he manage not to pick up some French? I know that different people have different aptitudes for learning foreign languages and that different people have different levels of desire/interest in learning, but it surprises me that he is not passable in French. I mean, he must have studied French from Grade 4 through Grade 8, and he lived in Sherbrooke and Verdun during his three years in the Q, plus he was an assistant coach in Montreal for two years. Even if one is dismissive of the breadth or depth of the elementary school instruction in French, Gallant basically received five years of free French immersion.
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Post by jkr on Jan 16, 2020 14:03:49 GMT -5
It's French immersion if you want it to be. Perhaps he saw his stays in Quebec as temporary and didn't try to learn.
There are players that have been with the Habs for years & never do interviews in French. I can't recall guys like Price or Gallagher ever doing it.
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Post by folatre on Jan 16, 2020 14:57:59 GMT -5
It's French immersion if you want it to be. Perhaps he saw his stays in Quebec as temporary and didn't try to learn. There are players that have been with the Habs for years & never do interviews in French. I can't recall guys like Price or Gallagher ever doing it. You are probably right. I guess that I just look at it that in the early 80s playing in the Q, almost all of the guys on your team would have been native French speakers and this was before Playstation and internet and and back then kids that age would go out and hang out. With today's Habs players, it surprises me less because they are older and wealthier and can basically live apart from the hearbeat and people of the city around them. |
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Post by Disgruntled70sHab on Feb 3, 2020 19:09:17 GMT -5
I'd be all over it, to be honest ... why not? ... there are a lot of folks who legitimately do like the ASG, so to each their own, kinda thing ... Me? I have no interest in the ASG whatsoever and I'd support a John-Scott-for- Prime-Minister-Commissioner lobby ... I pretty much feel the same way about any of the Winter Classics ... again, there are a lot of fans who want to be part of that experience and I respect that, but I just can't justify paying the kind of $ the teams are asking for their cash cows extravaganzas ... I mean, it's tough for me to get out of the nosebleeds as it is now ... Cheers- |
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Post by Disgruntled70sHab on Feb 3, 2020 19:41:52 GMT -5
John Scott...that's classic. Back to Gallant for a second, how did he manage not to pick up some French? I know that different people have different aptitudes for learning foreign languages and that different people have different levels of desire/interest in learning, but it surprises me that he is not passable in French. I mean, he must have studied French from Grade 4 through Grade 8, and he lived in Sherbrooke and Verdun during his three years in the Q, plus he was an assistant coach in Montreal for two years. Even if one is dismissive of the breadth or depth of the elementary school instruction in French, Gallant basically received five years of free French immersion. When I hear of immersion I immediately think of Bob Gainey ... Gainey was sent over to Epinal, France, where he became the player-coach for the team but he went over there to immerse himself in the French language ... there was talk of him preparing himself for a future gig somewhere in the Montreal organization ... as an aside, I saw Gainey play when he brought Epinal into Lahr to play the military all-stars ... his jersey fit over his pads like it was a few sizes too small ... herculean comes to mind ... the military won 9-4 and I wanted to meet him after the game, but I couldn't get close to him ... Gainey eventually made it to Montreal and I remember the feeling of hope it generated in the fan base ... here's a shot of Gainey (top row, 3rd from the left) with Epinal circa 1989-90 ... photo courtesy of Wikipedia ... Cheers.  |
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Post by folatre on Feb 20, 2020 19:48:10 GMT -5
Dreger says that Gallant and his Mrs. happen to be spending a few days in Montreal this week on a holiday of sorts, apparently with no connection to Molson or Bergevin.
Cool story, Dis. I had totally forgot that Gainey went over to France.
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Post by folatre on Apr 22, 2020 9:34:11 GMT -5
New Jersey interviewed Gallant. He would be a rather stellar hire for an organization that has not done much winning over the last decade.
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Post by Willie Dog on Apr 23, 2020 12:33:47 GMT -5
New Jersey interviewed Gallant. He would be a rather stellar hire for an organization that has not done much winning over the last decade. PK woukd like this. |
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