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Post by Cranky on Jun 16, 2020 13:51:47 GMT -5
What can possibly go wrong...
Washington DC mayor and the locals favors defunding those violent cops.
Just another afternoon of fun and frolic in the neighborhood....
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Post by seventeen on Jun 16, 2020 20:15:05 GMT -5
I'd rather cut down on their responsibilities. Why are we asking them to deal with individuals with mental health issues?
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Post by Cranky on Jun 16, 2020 21:18:24 GMT -5
I'd rather cut down on their responsibilities. Why are we asking them to deal with individuals with mental health issues? I've written about this experience before... When I lived in Montreal, my wife moved out and we rented a small, really small two room shoebox. One morning, around 10, she was at work and I was getting ready to go to school. Got a knock on our door from our next door neighbor, she was a nurse, but this morning, she was panicking and trembling, the CIA was attacking her mind. You hear about this kind of stuff and think it's a urban myth, well, there she was, right in front of me. And there I was. Was she dangerous? No. Well, I don't think so. Not that day. Right there, in that moment, she was looking for help from the CIA, tomorrow, maybe she would gut me the minute I opened the door. It's not hard. Any size knife would do. So......why do cops get involved in mental health cases? . EDIT: I forgot to ad how it ended. We moved out a few months later and to my apartment. Interesting thing was up to that episode, she didn't show any issues at all. Not one. Good morning, good evening and we knew her as the nurse next door. Then again, we never actually "checked" is she was a nurse or anything else for that matter. My wife was a bit concerned given that the wall separating us was slightly better then newspaper. We're talking slight upgrade from slums.... |
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Post by oldhabsfan on Sept 8, 2020 12:47:16 GMT -5
I've been grateful for police intervention in several fraught situations.
I also am old enough to remember when the Montreal police went on strike, and if I recall rightly within about 24 hours there was an armed attack on the heaadquarters of the Murray Hill limousine company (they had the concession for the airport taxis) by Le Front du Liberation du Taxi, one killed. Sometimes the police are hard to deal with, and normally there are a few bad apples in a force, but they do have their uses. As to how municipal and provincial budgets should be divided up among the police and various social services, that's an arguable point. But "defunding the police" can be interpreting in various ways, some mostly used for rabble-rousing purposes.
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Post by The Habitual Fan on Sept 8, 2020 14:33:27 GMT -5
The term defund the police is problematic in my opinion. I understand the theory of reducing the budget so forces are not able to afford military equipment for a civil disturbance. It is too easy for opposition to say the left wants to remove the police force and brings fear to the people that don't understand.
Police departments should be restructured so mental health experts with police back up are dealing ill individuals. Police should be monitoring peaceful protests and protecting property, not marching down the street swinging batons and firing teargas. If a peaceful protests goes on non-stop for a week who cares, eventually they will make their point and just go home.
As for any bad apple police, there should be none tolerated. You wouldn't want your life in the hands of a surgeon or a pilot who you keep on the job because he is just a bad apple. The police need to have the highest possible standards if they are going to be armed and let out in the public.
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Post by Cranky on Sept 8, 2020 23:00:21 GMT -5
Right now, I'm dealing with a fellow in the US for a somewhat sophisticated alarm.....and his full time job is a policeman. Close to 20 year veteran in a "lowish" crime area. He wears a body cam and has no issues but he's concerned.
The departments heads and civilian overlords want them to only draw their guns when someones is actually shooting at them. That's seriously mouth drooling stupid in a country with 393 million guns. They are asking cops to go out on suicide missions on a daily basis. Who wants to do that and why would any normal person want to be a cop if he can't defend himself?
He said "it may sound corny, but I got into police work because I feel I can help people". I snapped back that it doesn't sound corny to me and I really admire people who put their lives on the line for us. I really didn't want hear him apologize because he wants to do the right thing.
Even when there is "follow all the rules to perfection"....they still get sued and lose. The juries award millions to criminals that may have three foot rap sheets....some jurors "identify" with the criminal because more then a "few" on a jury of 12 may have some kind of criminal in their family. Of course it's never a criminals fault that they are a criminal...so let's shaft the county/town/city. *sigh*.
He will not confirm what i suspect is happening throughout the states. Cops are human and the natural response for any human us not to put their lives on the line needlessly. The response time to hot situations is going to go way up because they won't go in alone or with just a few cops.....and the exact same people who are now complaining will pay the price big time.
Last but not least...there are 700,000 full time law enforcement in the US. Repeat....700,000 and probably more then a billion interaction with the public. Yet the garbage media and certain political motivated three letter "movements" try to paint them as racist and gun slingers. Yup....but amazingly, every recent public incident has been with an "innocent man"....who just happens to have a criminal record and/or a drug problem or decides that they are above the law.
Anywho....to me.."defund the police" is nonsense garbage.
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Post by Cranky on Sept 13, 2020 13:49:13 GMT -5
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