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Post by habsorbed on Jul 2, 2020 21:02:28 GMT -5
Been a lot of chatter in the various threads about how things will unfold this season. Time to make predictions!
I'm going with pause never un-pausing as Covid is relentless and players and eventually the league will recognize this reality and the foolhardiness of resuming given the health risks.
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Post by PTH on Jul 3, 2020 0:34:12 GMT -5
Been a lot of chatter in the various threads about how things will unfold this season. Time to make predictions! I'm going with pause never un-pausing as Covid is relentless and players and eventually the league will recognize this reality and the foolhardiness of resuming given the health risks. I expect they'll find a way to hand out a Cup, but I think it'll have a massive asterisk, since I think it's well over 50% odds that something disrupts the process along the way, possibly even forcing the league to change the rules to be able to make it till the end. (for example, if a team has 10 players out due to Covid, it's automatically eliminated, etc.). But the league seems determined to power through, so I voted Habs lose to Pens... because I think once one game is played, the league is committed to having out a Cup this year, and will find a way to do it, however silly it might be at that point. It's not going to be pretty, and we all agree this is a pure cash grab, versus the smart play of sending everyone home and hoping for a reasonable season starting in January 2021.
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Post by seventeen on Jul 3, 2020 1:18:43 GMT -5
I think they'll hand over a Cup, even if they have to put 31 bingo balls into a machine and pull one out. When you;re obsessed with a goal, you make it happen, no matter how silly it is.
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Post by PTH on Jul 3, 2020 10:57:28 GMT -5
I think they'll hand over a Cup, even if they have to put 31 bingo balls into a machine and pull one out. When you;re obsessed with a goal, you make it happen, no matter how silly it is. I figure there's a 1 in 10 chance that the finals never actually happen - one team will have to opt out and the Cup will be awarded to the other team...
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Post by jkr on Jul 3, 2020 11:08:35 GMT -5
Been a lot of chatter in the various threads about how things will unfold this season. Time to make predictions! I'm going with pause never un-pausing as Covid is relentless and players and eventually the league will recognize this reality and the foolhardiness of resuming given the health risks. I voted with you. I still can't believe the league is going forward with this fiasco & leaving themselves open to all kinds of 2nd guessing & ridicule. Then again, they aren't alone in their stupidity. The NBA is going forward in Florida of all places. And the MLS seems to be going ahead despite the fact that 6 players from one team (Dallas) have tested positive.
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Post by Tankdriver on Jul 3, 2020 12:47:56 GMT -5
Been a lot of chatter in the various threads about how things will unfold this season. Time to make predictions! I'm going with pause never un-pausing as Covid is relentless and players and eventually the league will recognize this reality and the foolhardiness of resuming given the health risks. I expect they'll find a way to hand out a Cup, but I think it'll have a massive asterisk, since I think it's well over 50% odds that something disrupts the process along the way, possibly even forcing the league to change the rules to be able to make it till the end. (for example, if a team has 10 players out due to Covid, it's automatically eliminated, etc.). But the league seems determined to power through, so I voted Habs lose to Pens... because I think once one game is played, the league is committed to having out a Cup this year, and will find a way to do it, however silly it might be at that point. It's not going to be pretty, and we all agree this is a pure cash grab, versus the smart play of sending everyone home and hoping for a reasonable season starting in January 2021. That's a lot of hope and prayers. They'll get the playoffs done this year, and it might come down to having teams with 9 forwards, 5 defense and 2 goalies as a starting lineup. To be honest though, I'd be surprised if there is a season next year. I can't see there being fans in the stands. They might have to go to a 40 game season if they do attempt one in the end. Better hope a vaccine is developed by then.
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Post by UberCranky on Jul 3, 2020 13:15:03 GMT -5
I think the ClusterPuck Cup has 90% of going the distance....and 100% as a clusterpuck...
There is a very, very small chance a player dies from getting infected while participating. But it's one of those things that even it's a million to one, the consequences will be devastating. Imagine winning the cup with a crossbones attached to it. The twitty mob will not hesitate to call it the Death Cup...and forever taint it.
I'm all for toughness and standing ones ground. But there is also going stupid against reality. THIS is stupid.
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Post by Habs_fan_in_LA on Jul 3, 2020 13:37:46 GMT -5
I think the ClusterPuck Cup has 90% of going the distance....and 100% as a clusterpuck... There is a very, very small chance a player dies from getting infected while participating. But it's one of those things that even it's a million to one, the consequences will be devastating. Imagine winning the cup with a crossbones attached to it. The twitty mob will not hesitate to call it the Death Cup...and forever taint it. I'm all for toughness and standing ones ground. But there is also going stupid against reality. THIS is stupid. Full plexiglass face shields and n95 masks. Wash hands between shifts. Goaltenders have water bottles and spray bottles on the net. Giant benches with 6 feet between players.
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Post by Habs_fan_in_LA on Jul 3, 2020 13:46:58 GMT -5
Been a lot of chatter in the various threads about how things will unfold this season. Time to make predictions! I'm going with pause never un-pausing as Covid is relentless and players and eventually the league will recognize this reality and the foolhardiness of resuming given the health risks. Ambulance chasing lawyers Become covid chasers
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Post by folatre on Jul 3, 2020 19:05:37 GMT -5
If the teams manage to get through this month with guys living their lives in twenty-four different cities and perhaps not taking every precaution possible, then comparatively Phase 4 should in theory at least be a manageable situation.
I do not see the Habs taking down the Penguins. Pittsburgh not only has the superior high-end difference-makers at the top of the lineup, they also have more depth if you look at all the way down into the ranks of the 10th, 11th, and 12th forward or 5th and 6th d-men.
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Post by Disgruntled70sHab on Jul 3, 2020 21:16:39 GMT -5
... it'll be up to the virus, methinks ...
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Post by Habs_fan_in_LA on Jul 3, 2020 23:35:55 GMT -5
... it'll be up to the virus, methinks ...
Doctors and nurses are essential. Bus drivers and hydro workers are almost essential. Grocery workers and gas station can be considered essential. Life and death. Hockey players are NOT essential!
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Post by Deleted on Jul 4, 2020 1:41:20 GMT -5
Just can the season already.
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Post by Skilly on Jul 5, 2020 17:24:50 GMT -5
If they put an end to the season, the NHL is out 2 billion dollars (I believe that’s the number I heard on Sportsnet) in their TV contracts.
So that equates to a 35-40% roll back on players salaries.
From what I understand they need a certain number of games, to meet their contractual obligation . And that’s why there will be a round robin and play ins
Essentially, if this season is canned, there is a very high probability next year will be too. And financially, the league won’t be able to handle it and more than a few teams will go under.
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Post by UberCranky on Jul 5, 2020 17:59:27 GMT -5
If half the teams go under, the quality of play will rise. What's the downside?
Shirely nobody believes Shirley or Mol$on when she/he says that the Habs can't get past one year of no hockey.
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Post by folatre on Jul 5, 2020 18:11:29 GMT -5
Exactly, money is the essence of the issue. Based on what guys like McKenzie, LeBrun, and Burke are saying, the failure to resume the 2019-20 season would mean hockey related revenue would come in at $3.8 or $3.9 billion, in stark contrast to the $5.05 billion from 2018-19. And with the revenue sharing paradigm enshrined in the CBA, that would mean the players start next season already owing the owners $550-600 million USD. And the revenue forecast for 2020-21 is already quite dire since packed buildings are not likely in December, January, and maybe not even by April.
I get the forget it shut it down sentiment. But that is suicidal from an economic perspective.
I feel for the players because they are risking more than the owners with Covid, ramping up after an incredibly lengthy layoff which makes them susceptible to regular hockey injuries, etc. And it is not a bad question to ask why the owners did not purchase pandemic/catastrophe insurance to safeguard the industry in an event like this, instead of using the 50/50 revenue split as their de facto insurance policy. But be that as it may, not playing the play-ins and Playoffs exposes everyone involved to losses that will take even longer to sort out.
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Post by Habs_fan_in_LA on Sept 5, 2020 20:22:23 GMT -5
If they put an end to the season, the NHL is out 2 billion dollars (I believe that’s the number I heard on Sportsnet) in their TV contracts. So that equates to a 35-40% roll back on players salaries. From what I understand they need a certain number of games, to meet their contractual obligation . And that’s why there will be a round robin and play ins Essentially, if this season is canned, there is a very high probability next year will be too. And financially, the league won’t be able to handle it and more than a few teams will go under. Occasionally I have to give credit to someone I dislike I NEVER expected the COVID playoffs to go this well, all things considered. Bettman organized, modified rules and all has gone much better than I expected. Reluctant congratulation to the little dictator. New meaning to once the playoffs start, anything can happen. Now Molson can charge a premium for printed tickets to games that can’t be attended.
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