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Post by Deleted on Aug 19, 2020 21:44:59 GMT -5
Gallagher took a shot to the face. Since that's a headshot and he's bleeding, shouldn't Niskanen have been tossed? That's why Kotkaniemi's gone.
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Post by folatre on Aug 19, 2020 21:45:51 GMT -5
The two refs tonight lost the plot completely.
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Post by NWTHabsFan on Aug 19, 2020 21:47:22 GMT -5
ENG. Philly should get penalties here.
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Post by Deleted on Aug 19, 2020 21:49:53 GMT -5
Is it that easy to get the Flyers off their game? Man.
Game 6 should be good.
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Post by UberCranky on Aug 19, 2020 21:50:00 GMT -5
So it was a great half game..lol
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Post by folatre on Aug 19, 2020 21:50:14 GMT -5
Voracek is such a bs false intensity guy. He has fought like five times in his 13 year career and jumps the pile like he is some sort of bad azz.
The Flyers are big. But they are not tough. Who instills fear or would want to tangle with Domi, Weber, or Chiarot?
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Post by UberCranky on Aug 19, 2020 21:52:07 GMT -5
were was our badass center? Lol
Kk is turning into a no hair gel badass...
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Post by NWTHabsFan on Aug 19, 2020 21:52:47 GMT -5
Good Friday night coming. A lot of intensity tonight that should carry over into game 6.
So much for both guys having a .950+ save percentage coming into this game.
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Post by Andrew on Aug 19, 2020 21:54:35 GMT -5
Love the bloodied mouth Gallagher at the end of the bench giving it to the Flyers bench for the last few minutes, even after the final buzzer. Drouin atoned for his offside by setting up Suzuki for the winner. On to game 6!
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Post by NWTHabsFan on Aug 19, 2020 22:04:38 GMT -5
Good game by Evans. Faceoffs, P.K., good five on five shifts.
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Post by Willie Dog on Aug 19, 2020 22:14:38 GMT -5
Suze pats Hart on the head... Suze will be a target next game, so will KK... Voracek is a douche
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Post by Willie Dog on Aug 19, 2020 22:18:18 GMT -5
Button hated the call on KK... he stated according to the rules Sanheim turned before the hit and the new rules say if a player does that it's no penalty... the refs blew it in real time and in the review... Did Sanheim miss any shifts?
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Post by Deleted on Aug 19, 2020 22:42:33 GMT -5
Button hated the call on KK... he stated according to the rules Sanheim turned before the hit and the new rules say if a player does that it's no penalty... the refs blew it in real time and in the review... Did Sanheim miss any shifts? Nope. Was right out there on that powerplay.
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Post by Disgruntled70sHab on Aug 19, 2020 22:45:12 GMT -5
Good rebound game for Jonathan Drouin; 2A, 4 hits (tied for tops on the team) ... big-time response game for Brendan Gallagher, too; 1G, 3 hits, 18:02 TOI, which is 3rd amongst forwards behind Phillip Danault, 19:03 and Nick Suzuki, 18:36 ... Joel Armia's best game since the tournament began ... Jesperi Kotkaniemi will never forget this game ... he was playing very well (4 hits in 5:40 TOI) up until he was ejected ... they've got a chance if they can keep getting pucks on Carter Hart ... they're hanging with the Flyers ...
Cheers.
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Post by habsorbed on Aug 19, 2020 23:13:41 GMT -5
Impressed with the boys jam. And Suze may be our best forward since Saku. And I think Suze will be a better all around player.
As for the refs, absolutely horrible. Part of the plot that the talking heads are missing is that 30 seconds earlier on the same shift Couturier ran KK from behind looking right at #15 on KK's back with KK facing the boards. NO CALL! I have no doubt that the hit by KK was his thinking after the no call that anything goes. And Couturier's hit was not last second as KK, but he had a good run looking at #15 for some time.
Then to make matters worse how is the crosscheck to Evan's face not a 5 minute major with intent to injure. A CROSSCHECK TO THE FACE!!! And after the whistle. Is there any player that would rather be crosschecked to the face than the recipient of KK's hit? The crosscheck was far worse than KK's hit which was a 'hockey play'. And then Nishkinin crosschecks Gally to the face and no call (reports indicate Gally may have a fractured jaw).
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Post by habsorbed on Aug 19, 2020 23:14:37 GMT -5
So it's game on!
KK and Suze will be marked men but they always have been as Flyers know they are our best forwards.
GOOD TO HAVE GALLY BACK AND BEING GALLY!!!
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Post by CentreHice on Aug 19, 2020 23:18:03 GMT -5
Way to hang in. Animosity can't hurt.
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Post by NWTHabsFan on Aug 19, 2020 23:29:11 GMT -5
After two mind numbingly boring games, this finally felt like big time playoff hockey.
Great response by the boys. They learnt how to dig deep and win a tough one.
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Post by habsorbed on Aug 19, 2020 23:35:34 GMT -5
Not an authentic Habs Flyers playoff series without some shenanigans!
Will anything happen to the Flyer who cheap shotted Lecky well after the empty netter? Dale Hunter would have been proud of that cheap shot when game is iced.
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Post by folatre on Aug 19, 2020 23:36:21 GMT -5
Meh, if Suzuki and Kotkaniemi are targets, then what are Meyers and Niskanen after their handiwork tonight? It goes both ways. And maybe dudes like Couturier hope to dance with Byron in the last 30 seconds of the game, but it is less likely he wants to drop with Chiarot. Couturier has fought seven times in seven seasons and never answered the bell against anyone remotely scary (Brendan Dillon was his meanest rival and the linesmen bailed out Courturier before Dillon pummeled him). And Farabee might fancy himself a kid who likes to be right there in the mix, but Domi would tear his head off in a fight. And the good old boy Voracek, cm for cm and kg for kg should be able to stand in there with Weber but that is of course a total joke.
The Flyers are big. They are not tough. I am not saying Montreal is big or tough, but Philadelphia cannot chase Suzuki and Kotkaniemi around because who is going to answer the bell for the black and orange?
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Post by UberCranky on Aug 19, 2020 23:54:00 GMT -5
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Post by habsorbed on Aug 19, 2020 23:54:48 GMT -5
I guess my concern is that given our PP i don't know if Flyers will be reluctant to take some cheap shots. But if this is all about getting experience this will be good for KK and Suze. They've been playing tough all playoffs so I don't see them playing scared.
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Post by jkr on Aug 20, 2020 6:59:56 GMT -5
A couple of things need to happen.
Niskanen needs how be suspended. FFS, the referee was looking right at the hit on Gallagher & did squat. Now Friedman is reporting that Gallagher may be injured because of it.
Chris Lee has got to go. He has to be the worst official in the league. He misses blatant penalties & then tries to even things go with make up calls. Fans & players understand the rules more than he does.
All officials lost control at the end letting players jump on to other players. They are lucky no one was injured then.
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Post by Willie Dog on Aug 20, 2020 8:41:52 GMT -5
A couple of things need to happen. Niskanen needs how be suspended. FFS, the referee was looking right at the hit on Gallagher & did squat. Now Friedman is reporting that Gallagher may be injured because of it. Chris Lee has got to go. He has to be the worst official in the league. He misses blatant penalties & then tries to even things go with make up calls. Fans & players understand the rules more than he does. All officials lost control at the end letting players jump on to other players. They are lucky no one was injured then. The NHL doesnt care... They are dying to get interest back into hocxkey... last nights game helped generate that, they spent the 1st 15 minutes of Sportscentre talking about the game last night.
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Post by jkr on Aug 20, 2020 8:46:17 GMT -5
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Post by BadCompany on Aug 20, 2020 10:04:46 GMT -5
It took a little while, but we're in this fight, And we ain't going home 'till we've done what's right...
- Steve Earle
Nice to finally see some old-time playoff hockey!
* I would be okay with the call on Kotkaniemi IF there was any sort of consistency in the league. Which, of course, there is not. It looked to me like Sanheim turned his back to face the glass so that could cushion himself against the blow - easier to absorb it that way than against your shoulder. But Kotkaniemi drove into him hard. He should not have done that, as the onus is on the hitter now. But again, consistency please.
* I'm also okay with Suzuki patting Hart on the head, but I would tell him "be prepared to get as good as you give". Gallagher, as we always see, takes a beating and because he's always giving out those beatings, and running his mouth, he gets it back in equal spades. And he gets no protection from the refs. I'd bet big money that Suzuki will fall into the same boat - the refs are just going to look at him and shrug. I'd also be fairly surprised if the Habs get eliminated and somebody doesn't tap Suzuki on the head in the handshake line, with a smirky "take that, kid" comment to go with it. Again, don't dish if you can't receive.
* No way there are any repercussions against Niskanen for the cross-check to Gallagher's face. Hockey play gone bad, they will say. But nice to see Gallagher being Gallagher for the first time in the series. Hopefully his injury isn't serious enough to keep him out for the rest of it.
* That offside on Drouin was unfortunate, but not because Drouin was offside. Players go offside a dozen times a game, it happens. 98% of the time the linesmen catch it and we forget all about the play. Unfortunately for Drouin's reputation not only did they miss it this one time, but Carter Hart then let in a floater from Suzuki, a shot he probably stops 99.99% of the time. And if that had of happened, it would have just been another play that we would all forget 3 seconds later. But the Hockey Gods were out to get Drouin, making him out to be the goat on a play that statistically shouldn't have happened in the first place. Obvious blown call by a linesman AND a super weak goal against a second later? Bad luck.
* I liked Drouin's pass attempt to Armia, as opposed to him shooting. Drouin is, and has always been, a pass-first kind of guy, and in this instance he actually made a really nice play. He drew Hart out, made him over-commit, and then slid a nice little pass to Armia for the easy tap in to the open net. The problem was, that was Armia receiving the pass. Despite his two goals last night, Armia is not a goal scorer. He wasn't thinking "give me the puck I want to score", he was thinking "I'd better get to the net for a rebound". Subtle, but important difference that marks the difference between a pure goal scorer and a garbage man. Armia didn't prepare his stick for a pass, he didn't use his body to shield the passing lane (and thus prevent the Flyers from tying him up), he didn't turn to be in a shooting position. He was still fighting for ice. If that's Ovechkin, or Tavares, or Matthews, or Tarasenko, or heck, hopefully Caufield, that's a great goal that we'd all be watching on Top Plays of the Night. Some guys just set themselves up to score on every play. Armia is not one of those guys. Oh well.
* EDIT: Compare Armia to Suzuki's goal. I know, not fair, but bear with me. Drouin, as he did with Armia, makes a beautiful set up pass. If that was Armia receiving that pass from behind the net what are the odds Armia makes the same play? My guess is he would hammer that pass into Hart's chest. He doesn't have the natural goal-scoring instincts that would put himself into a better position to score. It's not Armia's fault, it's a skill like anything else, and it isn't to say Armia's a bad player. Just that he's not a pure goal scorer.
* Speaking of Armia and his goals, really nice play by Ouellet on that shortie. That was clearly a set play, and you could see Ouellet glance at Armia several times to make sure Armia knew what he was going to do. I don't know if he was saying something at the same time, but that dump in was clearly on purpose and by design. Even with that though, Armia seemed to react late before driving between the two defensemen (who both played that about as poorly as you can play it). He saw the play, as opposed to anticipating it.
* I thought Domi disappeared again. Man, I really want that guy to work out here, but he's such a tease. Hopefully the ramping up of the intensity will get him going again. Tatar, as well, seems largely absent from this series.
* Shout out to Victor Mete, who just keeps playing well. On his wrong side to boot. He and Petry are the only ones capable of making a successful zone entry on the power-play it seems.
* I've asked it before, and I'll ask it again - do we lose every defensive zone face off while killing a penalty? For that matter, do we lose every offensive zone face off to start a power play and thus lose 20 seconds right off the bat? The stats say we don't, but it sure looks like we do.
* Speaking of stats, the stats say Jake Evans played less than 10 minutes. It seemed like he played more, though I suppose that was because he was on for face offs, and then rushed right off. Of those 9:45 of ice though, a full 3 minutes came killing penalties. Pretty important task for a rookie, 4th line center.
* Speaking of rookie, 4th line centers, I get why Ryan Poehling isn't playing. It's pretty clear that they are going with natural wingers instead - Weise, Belzille, Hudon. Sure, Poehling could play wing, but he spent most of the year playing center. Plus, I've read vague internet rumors that he showed up to the Return To Play camp in less than ideal shape. Hopefully a learning experience for him.
* Speaking of Charles Hudon, the Kotkaniemi ejection and the parade of penalties pretty much stapled his butt to the bench. Which is too bad, I would be curious to see how a Hudon - Evans - Armia line does. But with him playing less than 6 minutes and Kotkaniemi gone for most of the game the team essentially played with three lines.
Certainly a much more entertaining game to watch than the previous two snooze-fests. If we can goad Philly into another game like that I like our chances of forcing a 7th game. But I suspect Vigneault will calm his boys down and get them back into that disciplined and extremely boring trap game they are so good at. We shall, as they say, see.
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Post by NWTHabsFan on Aug 20, 2020 10:14:53 GMT -5
I wonder if this is considered inside or outside the bubble? He probably has a dentist appointment too.
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Post by Andrew on Aug 20, 2020 10:40:50 GMT -5
* I liked Drouin's pass attempt to Armia, as opposed to him shooting. Drouin is, and has always been, a pass-first kind of guy, and in this instance he actually made a really nice play. He drew Hart out, made him over-commit, and then slid a nice little pass to Armia for the easy tap in to the open net. The problem was, that was Armia receiving the pass. Despite his two goals last night, Armia is not a goal scorer. He wasn't thinking "give me the puck I want to score", he was thinking "I'd better get to the net for a rebound". Subtle, but important difference that marks the difference between a pure goal scorer and a garbage man. Armia didn't prepare his stick for a pass, he didn't use his body to shield the passing lane (and thus prevent the Flyers from tying him up), he didn't turn to be in a shooting position. He was still fighting for ice. If that's Ovechkin, or Tavares, or Matthews, or Tarasenko, or heck, hopefully Caufield, that's a great goal that we'd all be watching on Top Plays of the Night. Some guys just set themselves up to score on every play. Armia is not one of those guys. Oh well. I think that's a solid analysis of the play. The only thing I'd add is that Drouin needs to recognize the limitations of his linemates and adjust his play accordingly. If he's playing with a no hands big bodied winger that drives to the net for rebounds then give him rebounds! Don't try and thread the needle on a pass that Armia has no business accepting. And I'm equally puzzled about Domi. We've seen him mixing it up against the Leafs, getting in guys faces, chirping the bench, throwing his weight around etc. You'd think playoff hockey would be his bread and butter.
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Post by frozone on Aug 20, 2020 10:42:11 GMT -5
I'm not expecting a suspension from the cross check. Yes, it's probably suspension worthy, but it's not like there will be severe backlash if the NHL does nothing. Maaaaybe a fine.
It's my strong opinion that the Habs do well in emotional games. If Philly comes out playing their tactical game on Friday, the boys need to inject as much emotion into the game as possible.
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Post by GNick99 on Aug 20, 2020 10:55:00 GMT -5
Real impressive game. Argiably our best game this season. Didn't watch til this morning.
Evan's and Ouellet playing better. Always find talent in long playoff drives.
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