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Post by jkr on Dec 30, 2020 16:21:58 GMT -5
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Post by seventeen on Dec 30, 2020 17:20:44 GMT -5
I love it. I had the Bruins as a bubble team to make the playoffs (yes, cocky, aren't I?) and I think this certainly moves them down a peg. Not that I think Chara was that important to them as a player. He is now, IMO, a very solid 3rd pairing defenseman. (Getting even cockier, huh?). What the Bruins lose is that 'I'm gonna smack you in the face and you're going to take it because that gorilla over there will kill you if you push back' attitude. Instead of going pedal to the metal, they'll need eyes in the back of their heads because other teams are going to want revenge. If I were Marchand, I'd be considering retirement, for health reasons.
The Bruins defense now consists of McAvoy and Carlo, two excellent players, Matt Grzelcyk, who was a very good 3rd pairing guy but will now have to move up to perhaps the top pairing and 3 'guys'. Grzelcyk was on the 3rd pairing last year and now will likely suit up next to McAvoy on the first group. That's a lot to handle. Yep, I can see the Bruins missing the playoffs. Neither Marchand nor Pasternak are starting the season, I believe, and Bergeron is 35 and Krejci 34.
But more than anything, that team is going to find they don't have the time nor space they used to have. It'll be a scared new world for that team.
Did I mention that I absolutely LOVE IT!
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Post by Cranky on Dec 30, 2020 17:26:38 GMT -5
Booins wouldn't sign him and their defense is far from very good. About the ONLY thing Chara has left is his clutch and grabbing...IF he can actually catch someone to do that. He was never any good at closing the gap or foot speed so the only thing he had going was size and reach. He still has that.....but the league is not filled with DD's.
His one and only value is on the PK, otherwise he's a liability for 5 on 5. I wish the Laffs signed him.....
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Post by Tankdriver on Dec 30, 2020 17:41:32 GMT -5
Got to think the Bruins will be in on Vatanen or Harmonic now...
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Post by seventeen on Dec 30, 2020 18:32:46 GMT -5
Booins wouldn't sign him and their defense is far from very good. About the ONLY thing Chara has left is his clutch and grabbing...IF he can actually catch someone to do that. He was never any good at closing the gap or foot speed so the only thing he had going was size and reach. He still has that.....but the league is not filled with DD's. His one and only value is on the PK, otherwise he's a liability for 5 on 5. I wish the Laffs signed him..... Bergevin was hot to get him. Chara opted for Washington for family reasons related to COVID and the border. I’m glad. I can not warm up to Chara as a Hab after the Patches incident. |
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Post by Cranky on Dec 30, 2020 18:38:24 GMT -5
Booins wouldn't sign him and their defense is far from very good. About the ONLY thing Chara has left is his clutch and grabbing...IF he can actually catch someone to do that. He was never any good at closing the gap or foot speed so the only thing he had going was size and reach. He still has that.....but the league is not filled with DD's. His one and only value is on the PK, otherwise he's a liability for 5 on 5. I wish the Laffs signed him..... Bergevin was hot to get him. Chara opted for Washington for family reasons related to COVID and the border. I’m glad. I can not warm up to Chara as a Hab after the Patches incident. Huh? When was Bbinz "hot to get him"? He's universally hated by Hab fans so that seems a bit out there.....or pure stupidity by Bbinz. |
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Post by seventeen on Dec 30, 2020 18:41:17 GMT -5
Tweet from Renaud Lavoie. Talks were supposedly serious.
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Post by Cranky on Dec 30, 2020 18:44:23 GMT -5
There is a reason I hate Twitter......
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Post by seventeen on Dec 30, 2020 19:58:40 GMT -5
I don’t get it, either unless Berg’s judgment of Chara varies like the Rift Valley from mine. I think I haven't grasped fully how precarious his situation is and how desperate he is to go deep into the playoffs. He’s not behaving like a guy with a 2 or 3 year plan. It’s all in this year. But he’s not holding good cards yet.
If so, I feel for the kids because they’re going to be spectators. But you need to take some risks to win it all. Berg just isn’t built that way.
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Post by folatre on Dec 30, 2020 20:00:12 GMT -5
Surprising, yes indeed. And for the puny cap hit, it also seems to suggest that either the negotiations so offended Chara that he broke them off or that basically Boston never offered him anything, because why else would he want to not finish his career as a Bruin?
What are the implications? I agree with seventeen and others who are pointing out that being a Bruin just got a whole lot harder without the big Z back there to intimidate with his fists, his stick, and general impunity that he gets from the refs.
Sure, Sweeney might think well whoever we plug in there on the left side can probably play hockey as well as Chara at this stage of his career. But the intangibles are what will be missed and which his replacement will not even come close to covering. Some dude who takes his place in the Boston lineup and goes out there and holds, clutches, and slashes the way Chara has been doing for the twilight of his career is going to get called for a frickin tonne of penalties. That's life. The old noble elder statesman get out of jail free card that Chara has been using for years is not going to passed on to his replacement.
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Post by folatre on Dec 30, 2020 21:03:55 GMT -5
In particular, I would be worried if I were McAvoy because he has done his business kind of dirty back there strutting around like he is some kind of physical boss or something. Plus, he is a kid who has already had concussion issues. The absence of the big Z may change the way that McAvoy plays because he is going to have to be a heck of a lot of accountable for his own slashes and cross-checks without Chara to keep dudes from the other team in line.
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Post by Willie Dog on Dec 30, 2020 22:02:46 GMT -5
I wish we were in the Bruins division this, would have been nice to face them 6 or 8 times, see us punish them a bit
I wonder how pissed chara was not to finish his career there... Jacobs loyalty to money knows no bounds...
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Post by Cranky on Dec 31, 2020 3:53:08 GMT -5
I just threw up in my mouth.....  |
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Post by jkr on Dec 31, 2020 6:30:23 GMT -5
I just threw up in my mouth..... No wonder you're cranky. You are up at 4:30am posting about Chara to the Habs.  The only good thing would be listening to Jack Edwards call a Habs/Bruins game. |
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Post by BadCompany on Dec 31, 2020 8:43:16 GMT -5
I would have signed him. And then I would have sat him in the stands for 56 games. Repeatedly put him on waivers. Sent him to the taxi squad, and then to the AHL (where he could watch those games from the stands). Spell his name wrong on all roster sheets, buy him sticks that are three inches too short, and make him pick up all the pucks after practice. Every practice. But then I'm petty that way.  |
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Post by Skilly on Dec 31, 2020 13:44:40 GMT -5
Sportsnet and TSN spent about 3-4 mins on the Chara signing and the MTL angle .... and about 7 secs on Corey Perry signing
€¥£* §^$ Toronto based media
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Post by Willie Dog on Dec 31, 2020 14:04:47 GMT -5
Sportsnet and TSN spent about 3-4 mins on the Chara signing and the MTL angle .... and about 7 secs on Corey Perry signing €¥£* §^$ Toronto based media Your surprised??? Talk ad nauseam about habs losing anything and barely anything on habs winning something... got to keep the centre of the covid Universe happy |
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Post by folatre on Dec 31, 2020 14:25:37 GMT -5
Yeah, the Bruins are not boasting a whole lot of size and physicality in their lineup.
Looking at the Eastern Division, teams like the Capitals and the Islanders could definitely be running around and bullying the Bruins and I am not sure who on Boston is going to do much about it. Ritchie? Okay, he is pretty tough. But who else?
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Post by Cranky on Dec 31, 2020 15:47:04 GMT -5
No wonder you're cranky. You are up at 4:30am posting about Chara to the Habs. Polygamy. |
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Post by Cranky on Dec 31, 2020 16:00:15 GMT -5
I would have signed him. And then I would have sat him in the stands for 56 games. Repeatedly put him on waivers. Sent him to the taxi squad, and then to the AHL (where he could watch those games from the stands). Spell his name wrong on all roster sheets, buy him sticks that are three inches too short, and make him pick up all the pucks after practice. Every practice. But then I'm petty that way. I like the way you think. The guy is finished. Done. Washed up. Good for nothing but to serve as an oversized pylon. A practice target. His ONLY advantage was his reach and stregnth but now, his skating has deteriorated so much, he can't get to those he needs to clutch and grab. He lost every single foot race to the corner on the PK. To the point where they shifted the forward even further back to compensate for that. On a transition, if he was close to the bench, he would skate off, which was way faster then his ability to join the rush. His 108 mph slap shot is now competing with Mete's cannonating drives..... Why on earth did Bbinz even consider him? Or was it a game of sticking it to the Boohooins? While it would infuriate the Hab base, it would drive the Booins base into pure madness. While it would be endless entertainment on the Booins boards, the focus is on winng a CUP. Or maybe this was a day off for Bbinz and thought....why not pretend I want to sign Charpit so as to look good. Yeah, because signing burned out Charpit makes anyone but idiot GMs look good. |
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Post by Willie Dog on Jan 1, 2021 14:13:28 GMT -5
I would have signed him. And then I would have sat him in the stands for 56 games. Repeatedly put him on waivers. Sent him to the taxi squad, and then to the AHL (where he could watch those games from the stands). Spell his name wrong on all roster sheets, buy him sticks that are three inches too short, and make him pick up all the pucks after practice. Every practice. But then I'm petty that way. I like the way you think. The guy is finished. Done. Washed up. Good for nothing but to serve as an oversized pylon. A practice target. His ONLY advantage was his reach and stregnth but now, his skating has deteriorated so much, he can't get to those he needs to clutch and grab. He lost every single foot race to the corner on the PK. To the point where they shifted the forward even further back to compensate for that. On a transition, if he was close to the bench, he would skate off, which was way faster then his ability to join the rush. His 108 mph slap shot is now competing with Mete's cannonating drives..... Why on earth did Bbinz even consider him? Or was it a game of sticking it to the Boohooins? While it would infuriate the Hab base, it would drive the Booins base into pure madness. While it would be endless entertainment on the Booins boards, the focus is on winng a CUP. Or maybe this was a day off for Bbinz and thought....why not pretend I want to sign Charpit so as to look good. Yeah, because signing burned out Charpit makes anyone but idiot GMs look good. Getting the ape would make no sense, we dont play the Bruins in the 56 game schedule so why bother... just to give a kid less to no ice time? Was Clod trying to relive his glory years... should we bring back Colin's son? This would have been an asinine thing to do... |
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Post by seventeen on Jan 1, 2021 20:23:12 GMT -5
Yeah, the Bruins are not boasting a whole lot of size and physicality in their lineup. Looking at the Eastern Division, teams like the Capitals and the Islanders could definitely be running around and bullying the Bruins and I am not sure who on Boston is going to do much about it. Ritchie? Okay, he is pretty tough. But who else? Kevin Millar |
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Post by seventeen on Jan 1, 2021 20:24:37 GMT -5
Getting the ape would make no sense, we dont play the Bruins in the 56 game schedule so why bother... just to give a kid less to no ice time? Was Clod trying to relive his glory years... should we bring back Colin's son? This would have been an asinine thing to do... Yet....it seems there was interest in the Bell Centre offices. IMO, it's just more evidence that the judgement up there is skewed. |
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Post by GNick99 on Jan 2, 2021 13:27:57 GMT -5
Tweet from Renaud Lavoie. Talks were supposedly serious. Would like Chara here. Think he can still play bottom pairing minutes. Plus one of top penalty killers in league. Adds a physical presence to team and in front of Price. Plus he is a character guy and hard worker. Good influence on young players. |
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Post by Disgruntled70sHab on Jan 15, 2021 15:58:34 GMT -5
I would have signed him. And then I would have sat him in the stands for 56 games. Repeatedly put him on waivers. Sent him to the taxi squad, and then to the AHL (where he could watch those games from the stands). Spell his name wrong on all roster sheets, buy him sticks that are three inches too short, and make him pick up all the pucks after practice. Every practice. But then I'm petty that way. I like the way you think. The guy is finished. Done. Washed up. Good for nothing but to serve as an oversized pylon. A practice target. His ONLY advantage was his reach and stregnth but now, his skating has deteriorated so much, he can't get to those he needs to clutch and grab. He lost every single foot race to the corner on the PK. To the point where they shifted the forward even further back to compensate for that. On a transition, if he was close to the bench, he would skate off, which was way faster then his ability to join the rush. His 108 mph slap shot is now competing with Mete's cannonating drives..... Why on earth did Bbinz even consider him? Or was it a game of sticking it to the Boohooins? While it would infuriate the Hab base, it would drive the Booins base into pure madness. While it would be endless entertainment on the Booins boards, the focus is on winng a CUP. Or maybe this was a day off for Bbinz and thought....why not pretend I want to sign Charpit so as to look good. Yeah, because signing burned out Charpit makes anyone but idiot GMs look good. He can go back to his old job, as far as I'm concerned ... probably where he first learned how effective turnbuckles are ... |
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Post by GNick99 on Jan 18, 2021 13:30:23 GMT -5
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Post by Willie Dog on Jan 18, 2021 13:48:08 GMT -5
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Post by Disgruntled70sHab on Jan 18, 2021 15:40:13 GMT -5
I love it. I had the Bruins as a bubble team to make the playoffs (yes, cocky, aren't I?) and I think this certainly moves them down a peg. Not that I think Chara was that important to them as a player. He is now, IMO, a very solid 3rd pairing defenseman. (Getting even cockier, huh?). What the Bruins lose is that 'I'm gonna smack you in the face and you're going to take it because that gorilla over there will kill you if you push back' attitude. Instead of going pedal to the metal, they'll need eyes in the back of their heads because other teams are going to want revenge. If I were Marchand, I'd be considering retirement, for health reasons. The Bruins defense now consists of McAvoy and Carlo, two excellent players, Matt Grzelcyk, who was a very good 3rd pairing guy but will now have to move up to perhaps the top pairing and 3 'guys'. Grzelcyk was on the 3rd pairing last year and now will likely suit up next to McAvoy on the first group. That's a lot to handle. Yep, I can see the Bruins missing the playoffs. Neither Marchand nor Pasternak are starting the season, I believe, and Bergeron is 35 and Krejci 34. But more than anything, that team is going to find they don't have the time nor space they used to have. It'll be a scared new world for that team. Did I mention that I absolutely LOVE IT! ... the guy goes from being a junior scout (ON, CQ) with the Bruins, to A/GM in Edmonton ... speaking about the Bruins, the rap against them only a few years ago, was that they had a distinct lack of good prospects in the system (where have we heard that before) ... enter Gretzky, who eventually became the Director of Scouting for les Bruins ... once that happened, he fired the existing staff, moved his own people into place, and all of a sudden the Bruins were swimming in prospects ... Gretzky eventually left in 2016 for his A/GM gig with Edmonton ... since his departure, the only draft picks to have played in the NHL, between 2017 and 2020 for the Bruins, are Urho Vaakanainen, and Jack Studnicka ... they total 10 GP and 1A ... yes, that's one assist from all those draft picks over the past four years ... here's the link ... I know I've got a bit of a grin on right now ... small, but there ... Cheers. |
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