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Post by GNick99 on Jul 10, 2021 6:59:56 GMT -5
Turned the phone on this morning to several twitter accounts stating Joel Bouchard has a signed a contract to coach San Diego Gulls. Quite a blow to the organization I call it.
Thought Bouchard did a good job with Laval. Relative to the talent he was given to work with. I think Poehling was the best player he had. Laval dominated the AHL this year. Last year the Rocket was just coming on when season stopped. Makes two seasons were cut short and lost both playoff. A lengthy playoff generally prime development time for young players. We lost a lot of valuable time with Joel.
Some opportunity for Bouchard with Ducks. As they have had a number of high draft picks recently. He will have talent to work with for sure. Ducks' draft is one I liked last year. Drysdale could be #1,, Perrault I was hoping would slide to us and Colangelo I liked also. Plus they have a high pick in this coming draft. No doubt he sees much more opportunity to expand his career there than here.
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Post by GNick99 on Jul 11, 2021 7:14:57 GMT -5
Imagine path to NHL a lot clearer in San Diego than Montreal. He has Ducharme and Richardson and Burrows ahead of him. If NHL position does come up
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Post by seventeen on Jul 12, 2021 1:58:44 GMT -5
Offering a guy who seems to have done a pretty good job as coach and de facto GM of the Rocket an assistant's job to the guy hired at the same time as him, sends a certain message. "I weighed all the factors and decided to give the HC job to your competition, Joel. But how'd you like to come work for him? I'm sure he'd take all your suggestions very well and give them due consideration. "Here, have an hors d'oeuvres".
Sounds about right, huh? No wonder Joel jumped at the opportunity. Jumped seems to be the right word.
His move would suggest that both Ducharme and Bergevin are being extended. That's a shame.
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Post by seventeen on Jul 13, 2021 1:23:56 GMT -5
Ok, not directly related, but how the hell did I miss that Shane Churla no longer works for the Habs! He joined Florida as their Director of Amateur scouting in Nov 2020. Nine months ago! I checked the Panthers website to confirm that, but can't find Churla anywhere. Unless their website hasn;t updaged in a year, I don't get it. Another guy leaving the team. Churla joined the Habs in the 2013/14 season. So he would have been involved in the drafts from 2014 on.
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Post by Tankdriver on Jul 13, 2021 7:09:07 GMT -5
Yeah, I saw that when it first came out and was like damm.... I think he had a lot of good influence with our scouting team. Also Mellanby was also in contention for a few GM openings the past few years. So he isn't an out of left field option if Bergevin decides to hang them up. If I was Mellanby, I would be taking french lessons every day until my next job.
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Post by BadCompany on Jul 14, 2021 9:17:37 GMT -5
I've often wondered if Bouchard's main talent was the willingness to yell at people, and how well that would actually translate in the long run. Or with modern players. Dale Weise provides his thoughts on Bouchard, and they are not flattering.
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Post by Boston_Habs on Jul 14, 2021 9:59:47 GMT -5
Good interview. Seems to like Ducharme so looks like the Habs picked the right guy.
Notable is his comments on how popular John Cooper is in Tampa.
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Post by Disgruntled70sHab on Jul 14, 2021 10:10:53 GMT -5
I've often wondered if Bouchard's main talent was the willingness to yell at people, and how well that would actually translate in the long run. Or with modern players. Dale Weise provides his thoughts on Bouchard, and they are not flattering. Thanks, BC ... I'm listening to it now ... I had a feeling this might have been the case, not only from your earlier feedback, but from what Dale Weise left on the table on his initial comments a few weeks back ... Jake Evans had some positives about Joel Bouchard, but I can't ignore the feedback Weise is giving ... Cheers. |
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Post by PTH on Jul 14, 2021 11:20:20 GMT -5
I've often wondered if Bouchard's main talent was the willingness to yell at people, and how well that would actually translate in the long run. Or with modern players. Dale Weise provides his thoughts on Bouchard, and they are not flattering. He might be a good teacher for kids willing to see him as a parental-type figure who can direct them, but not work well with pros who aren't willing to put up with being talked to like little kids. |
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Post by Willie Dog on Jul 14, 2021 12:33:25 GMT -5
Good interview. Seems to like Ducharme so looks like the Habs picked the right guy. Notable is his comments on how popular John Cooper is in Tampa. Winning makes you popular... I still think Cooper is a female feminine product... just like a bunch of his players especially Nikita FemalefeminineproductOV |
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Post by Willie Dog on Jul 14, 2021 12:37:39 GMT -5
I've often wondered if Bouchard's main talent was the willingness to yell at people, and how well that would actually translate in the long run. Or with modern players. Dale Weise provides his thoughts on Bouchard, and they are not flattering. He might be a good teacher for kids willing to see him as a parental-type figure who can direct them, but not work well with pros who aren't willing to put up with being talked to like little kids. I can see that but in the grand scheme, who cares what the vets want in a development organisation... That is what Laval is, a place where kids develop and the Vets are there to support them... Maybe Weise, who I like a lot, didn't like playing second fiddle to a kid, thought he should still be in the bigs etc... I'm not sure but for the longest time Laval was an absolute train wreck and the past 2 years they have developed a winning culture... The replacement better be able to continue the trend... Maybe it will be Burrows who takes over since Richardson signed for 3 years... |
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Post by Disgruntled70sHab on Jul 14, 2021 21:50:07 GMT -5
I've often wondered if Bouchard's main talent was the willingness to yell at people, and how well that would actually translate in the long run. Or with modern players. Dale Weise provides his thoughts on Bouchard, and they are not flattering. He might be a good teacher for kids willing to see him as a parental-type figure who can direct them, but not work well with pros who aren't willing to put up with being talked to like little kids. Very good point, PTH ... Cheers. |
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Post by GNick99 on Jul 15, 2021 5:11:52 GMT -5
I've often wondered if Bouchard's main talent was the willingness to yell at people, and how well that would actually translate in the long run. Or with modern players. Dale Weise provides his thoughts on Bouchard, and they are not flattering. He might be a good teacher for kids willing to see him as a parental-type figure who can direct them, but not work well with pros who aren't willing to put up with being talked to like little kids. I would have fired Timmins and gave Bouchard his position. Think Bouchard is better hockey man. Timmins is only average to me. For last 35-40 years I have done an annual mock Habs draft. Since Timmins came on board, last 18 years, I have out drafted him. What is that telling if Joe Fan can out draft our top scout? I made my mistakes too. Like I would have taken LeBlanc, Tinordi. Although, I wouldn't have traded up to draft him. Didn't like him that much. I had Schebak, McCarron, etc. Most my picks were same as Timmins. Roughly, 50% of them. But I would have got 2 future hall of famers and one solid NHL. No way I would have take Kostitsyn that high based mostly on an U18. He jumped too much to me on short tournament. Parise or Seabrooke I would have taken. I like Green in '04. After great Top Prospects Game. Chipchura I thought would play better but bottom 6 center can get anywhere. The other I would have got was Giroux. |
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