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Post by Willie Dog on Jul 12, 2022 7:18:05 GMT -5
A cap dump by the sens, took futures... sent Murray, a Third-round pick (2023) and a Seventh-round pick (2024)
over the past 3 years Campbell had a .917 save percentageage... Murray was .898 over the past 3 years
Looks like Leaf fans are not impressed, saying they should have kept Campbell..
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Post by seventeen on Jul 12, 2022 13:31:56 GMT -5
Some of the comments - "Leafs get a 3rd rounder to take Murray at $4.75MM and give up a first rounder to dump Mrazek"
True, but they neglected to say Leafs also got Chicago's 2nd rounder next year, so really it was dropping probably 7-10 spots in a different draft year. If 2023 is deeper than 2022, Leafs may actually be able to get a better prospect than Sam Rinzel. One can criticize the trade based on whether Murray is a better keeper than Mrazek, but the return for Rinzel will have to wait before we can judge that part of the deal. Murray had a good stretch of play before he was re-injured for Ottawa last season, so I suspect the Leafs are gambling that was the real Murray. Proof will come later.
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Post by jkr on Jul 12, 2022 17:03:57 GMT -5
Murray's numbers have been in decline for about 3 years now. He just hasn't looked like the guy that won 2 Cups in Pitsburgh.
I'm not a Campbell fan but at this time I think he's better than Murray.
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Post by NWTHabsFan on Jul 12, 2022 17:24:12 GMT -5
And then they get Talbot from Minny. They have upgraded. That trade was Gustavsson for Talbot straight up.
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Post by jkr on Jul 12, 2022 18:02:21 GMT -5
And then they get Talbot from Minny. They have upgraded. That trade was Gustavsson for Talbot straight up. At first I thought you meant the Leafs got Talbot then I saw Gustavsson's name. |
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Post by Willie Dog on Jul 12, 2022 20:41:52 GMT -5
Murray's numbers have been in decline for about 3 years now. He just hasn't looked like the guy that won 2 Cups in Pitsburgh. I'm not a Campbell fan but at this time I think he's better than Murray. Campbell played well for the leafs but it's always the goalies fault in TO.. the four floaties up front never get blamed. |
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Post by NWTHabsFan on Jul 12, 2022 21:06:56 GMT -5
Murray's numbers have been in decline for about 3 years now. He just hasn't looked like the guy that won 2 Cups in Pitsburgh. I'm not a Campbell fan but at this time I think he's better than Murray. Campbell played well for the leafs but it's always the goalies fault in TO.. the four floaties up front never get blamed. One and Done should still be safe! |
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Post by Willie Dog on Jul 12, 2022 21:19:42 GMT -5
Campbell played well for the leafs but it's always the goalies fault in TO.. the four floaties up front never get blamed. One and Done should still be safe! Let's hope so |
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Post by jkr on Jul 13, 2022 13:52:40 GMT -5
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Post by NWTHabsFan on Jul 13, 2022 15:07:59 GMT -5
So the Oilers improved in net, but the Leafs got…different guys.
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Post by Willie Dog on Jul 13, 2022 15:25:29 GMT -5
When leaf fans on sportsnet are complaining or the usual leaf fan boys aren't posting, you know it's not good
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Post by jkr on Jul 13, 2022 17:21:50 GMT -5
If they are paying Murray 4.6, why couldn't they pay Campbell 5? Did they not want to commit to 5 years? I guess they didn't believe in him as much as they said they did.
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Post by seventeen on Jul 13, 2022 17:34:11 GMT -5
It might be that Campbell wanted out.
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Post by Willie Dog on Jul 13, 2022 17:55:30 GMT -5
If they get past the 1st round, they can blame Campbell and Dubas protects the 4 fairies up front
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