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Post by CentreHice on Dec 15, 2022 21:23:21 GMT -5
Glad to have jinxed Dostal's goose-egg. Can you un-jinx these god-awful jerseys next? Wish that I could...  |
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Post by drkcloud on Dec 15, 2022 21:33:10 GMT -5
Drouin giveaway at the point leads to EN goal for the second straight night. He needs to go
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Post by folatre on Dec 15, 2022 21:33:25 GMT -5
Did I hear just Button correctly, this is Anaheim's second regulation win all season? And it almost Christmas...
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Post by seventeen on Dec 15, 2022 21:34:37 GMT -5
Sigh. Drouin. That trade is going on Bergevin’s tombstone.
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Post by seventeen on Dec 15, 2022 21:36:01 GMT -5
But, on the bright side, Bedard or Fantilli or Michkov or Carlsson or Smith are that much closer.
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Post by drkcloud on Dec 15, 2022 21:36:19 GMT -5
I love hearing how trips to Montreal always leads to turnarounds for slumping teams
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Post by Willie Dog on Dec 15, 2022 21:36:20 GMT -5
Lol... Droopy is so useless
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Post by NWTHabsFan on Dec 15, 2022 21:39:44 GMT -5
But, on the bright side, Bedard or Fantilli or Michkov or Carlsson or Smith are that much closer. We can hope. They are prizes worth the wait. |
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Post by Willie Dog on Dec 15, 2022 21:41:22 GMT -5
But, on the bright side, Bedard or Fantilli or Michkov or Carlsson or Smith are that much closer. We can hope. They are prizes worth the wait. Time to play silli for Fantilli... |
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Post by NWTHabsFan on Dec 15, 2022 21:45:37 GMT -5
Did I hear just Button correctly, this is Anaheim's second regulation win all season? And it almost Christmas... Yeah, they had only one coming in. This was not a good look tonight on being competitive while rebuilding through the youth. Dogs like this will happen. But the lack of scoring depth when the “next best” guy Monahan is down is horrendous. After the trade deadline, watching guys like Ylönen and RHP replace some of these dogs will be a relief. Based on play to date, not sure we are getting much for guys other than Eddy or Monahan. A lot of dead weight with little asset return value for HuGo. That’s the saddest part. |
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Post by NWTHabsFan on Dec 15, 2022 21:47:45 GMT -5
We can hope. They are prizes worth the wait. Time to play silli for Fantilli... Wear those blue things for the rest of the season. |
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Post by folatre on Dec 15, 2022 21:49:12 GMT -5
In the third and fourth quintiles of the league standings there has not been much separation a little over one-third into the season. A bunch of teams have just sort of stayed bunched together. I have a feeling that could be changing over the next 2-4 weeks.
Buffalo looks set to jump the Habs tonight. Nashville has a bunch of games in hand. Ottawa is right there, entering a soft portion of their schedule. Vancouver has more talent, but if they suddenly hold a fire-sale who knows. The Blues are going to finish ahead of the Habs.
Hockey is debatable, but if I had to bet I would say Montreal finishes 26th.
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Post by Willie Dog on Dec 15, 2022 21:54:44 GMT -5
In the third and fourth quintiles of the league standings there has not been much separation a little over one-third into the season. A bunch of teams have just sort of stayed bunched together. I have a feeling that could be changing over the next 2-4 weeks. Buffalo looks set to jump the Habs tonight. Nashville has a bunch of games in hand. Ottawa is right there, entering a soft portion of their schedule. Vancouver has more talent, but if they suddenly hold a fire-sale who knows. The Blues are going to finish ahead of the Habs. Hockey is debatable, but if I had to bet I would say Montreal finishes 26th. I would be thrilled with 26th and to have Florida finish in the bottom 10 |
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Post by folatre on Dec 15, 2022 22:00:16 GMT -5
Did I hear just Button correctly, this is Anaheim's second regulation win all season? And it almost Christmas... Yeah, they had only one coming in. This was not a good look tonight on being competitive while rebuilding through the youth. Dogs like this will happen. But the lack of scoring depth when the “next best” guy Monahan is down is horrendous. After the trade deadline, watching guys like Ylönen and RHP replace some of these dogs will be a relief. Based on play to date, not sure we are getting much for guys other than Eddy or Monahan. A lot of dead weight with little asset return value for HuGo. That’s the saddest part. It is what it is. Reality is unavoidable. I think management knows there is no market for low energy wingers who do not produce (Dadonov and Drouin) so they will likely bounce around between the IR, the press box, and games here and there. Everything was going so well with Monahan. I hope his lower body injury is not connected to the serious hip problems that plagued him. If he can come back, play good hockey and stay healthy, there is certainly a market for an experienced versatile middle six centre. Edmundson is not really playing at his best yet, but he is playoff tested, physical and cheap (in particular if Hughes is willing to retain on a non-expiring contract) so there will be a long list of suitors. |
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Post by jkr on Dec 15, 2022 22:03:43 GMT -5
Did I hear just Button correctly, this is Anaheim's second regulation win all season? And it almost Christmas... Yeah, they had only one coming in. This was not a good look tonight on being competitive while rebuilding through the youth. Dogs like this will happen. But the lack of scoring depth when the “next best” guy Monahan is down is horrendous. After the trade deadline, watching guys like Ylönen and RHP replace some of these dogs will be a relief. Based on play to date, not sure we are getting much for guys other than Eddy or Monahan. A lot of dead weight with little asset return value for HuGo. That’s the saddest part. I was never expecting anything for Dadonov or Drouin. Their play is so soft and uninspiring. In fact, I wouldn't be surprised if Drouin's NHL career is over & he heads for a soft landing in Europe. |
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Post by Skilly on Dec 15, 2022 22:42:46 GMT -5
Yeah, they had only one coming in. This was not a good look tonight on being competitive while rebuilding through the youth. Dogs like this will happen. But the lack of scoring depth when the “next best” guy Monahan is down is horrendous. After the trade deadline, watching guys like Ylönen and RHP replace some of these dogs will be a relief. Based on play to date, not sure we are getting much for guys other than Eddy or Monahan. A lot of dead weight with little asset return value for HuGo. That’s the saddest part. I was never expecting anything for Dadonov or Drouin. Their play is so soft and uninspiring. In fact, I wouldn't be surprised if Drouin's NHL career is over & he heads for a soft landing in Europe. He wouldn't make the Baie Commeau senior league team |
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Post by NWTHabsFan on Dec 15, 2022 22:49:01 GMT -5
Yeah, they had only one coming in. This was not a good look tonight on being competitive while rebuilding through the youth. Dogs like this will happen. But the lack of scoring depth when the “next best” guy Monahan is down is horrendous. After the trade deadline, watching guys like Ylönen and RHP replace some of these dogs will be a relief. Based on play to date, not sure we are getting much for guys other than Eddy or Monahan. A lot of dead weight with little asset return value for HuGo. That’s the saddest part. It is what it is. Reality is unavoidable. I think management knows there is no market for low energy wingers who do not produce (Dadonov and Drouin) so they will likely bounce around between the IR, the press box, and games here and there. Everything was going so well with Monahan. I hope his lower body injury is not connected to the serious hip problems that plagued him. If he can come back, play good hockey and stay healthy, there is certainly a market for an experienced versatile middle six centre. Edmundson is not really playing at his best yet, but he is playoff tested, physical and cheap (in particular if Hughes is willing to retain on a non-expiring contract) so there will be a long list of suitors. Monahan is in a walking boot, so the LBI sounds foot or ankle related. |
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Post by habsorbed on Dec 16, 2022 1:55:20 GMT -5
Yeah, they had only one coming in. This was not a good look tonight on being competitive while rebuilding through the youth. Dogs like this will happen. But the lack of scoring depth when the “next best” guy Monahan is down is horrendous. After the trade deadline, watching guys like Ylönen and RHP replace some of these dogs will be a relief. Based on play to date, not sure we are getting much for guys other than Eddy or Monahan. A lot of dead weight with little asset return value for HuGo. That’s the saddest part. It is what it is. Reality is unavoidable. I think management knows there is no market for low energy wingers who do not produce (Dadonov and Drouin) so they will likely bounce around between the IR, the press box, and games here and there. Everything was going so well with Monahan. I hope his lower body injury is not connected to the serious hip problems that plagued him. If he can come back, play good hockey and stay healthy, there is certainly a market for an experienced versatile middle six centre. Edmundson is not really playing at his best yet, but he is playoff tested, physical and cheap (in particular if Hughes is willing to retain on a non-expiring contract) so there will be a long list of suitors. Monahan's injury has also impacted Slafs development. Here Slafkovsky finally gets a chance to move up the line-up to the second line with Monahan in the middle. And Monahan goes down and slap is back to playing with Evans who has no offensive talent. |
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Post by habsorbed on Dec 16, 2022 2:01:43 GMT -5
As always, I'm good with the loss. Those who still hold out hope for a playoff spot will come around. We will not even be in the middle of the pack but bottom 10. So might as well root for bottom 5.
Can anyone recall any examples of a team playing 4 rookie dmen regularly. I think Guhle is going to be a star but must say he's getting tired as his game is slipping. X is a keeper if not a star. Harris seems to have a calmness but not sold on his skating or skills. Kav is a 6th at best.
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Post by folatre on Dec 16, 2022 10:22:44 GMT -5
The boys did not bring their 'A' game (or B for that matter) last night, plagued by near total imprecision with the puck for 40 minutes. Maybe it was a lack of focus produced by complacency. Perhaps it was produced by mental or physical fatigue. Or maybe it is as simple as too many holes and too much inexperience gradually getting exposed in a tough league.
If Montreal continues to chase games and lack secondary scoring, it will be hard to avoid some extended losing streaks. And with the way the standings stack up, a mere five game skid can take a team like the Habs to close to the bottom.
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Post by Willie Dog on Dec 16, 2022 11:24:18 GMT -5
The boys did not bring their 'A' game (or B for that matter) last night, plagued by near total imprecision with the puck for 40 minutes. Maybe it was a lack of focus produced by complacency. Perhaps it was produced by mental or physical fatigue. Or maybe it is as simple as too many holes and too much inexperience gradually getting exposed in a tough league. If Montreal continues to chase games and lack secondary scoring, it will be hard to avoid some extended losing streaks. And with the way the standings stack up, a mere five game skid can take a team like the Habs to close to the bottom. I have 2 words for this... Wooo & Hooo |
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Post by CentreHice on Dec 16, 2022 11:25:28 GMT -5
I remember the days when "The 2nd of a B2B; 3rd game in 4 nights" were common, quasi-acceptable excuses...even for good teams.  |
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Post by Skilly on Dec 16, 2022 11:29:49 GMT -5
If the draft was held today, we’d be drafting 11th
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Post by Willie Dog on Dec 16, 2022 11:33:35 GMT -5
They cannot resign Drouin... no accountability... he has made costly mistakes but sticks to the we vernacular... a leader does not say we...
Based on what Drouin said maybe he wants to coach... those that can... do... those that can't coach...
At least Carey blamed himself when they lost in the finals only to have Weber tell him that's not true...
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Post by Willie Dog on Dec 16, 2022 12:12:13 GMT -5
Jake Allen on the otherhand is very funny...
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Post by Andrew on Dec 16, 2022 12:26:26 GMT -5
The boys did not bring their 'A' game (or B for that matter) last night, plagued by near total imprecision with the puck for 40 minutes. Maybe it was a lack of focus produced by complacency. Perhaps it was produced by mental or physical fatigue. Or maybe it is as simple as too many holes and too much inexperience gradually getting exposed in a tough league. If Montreal continues to chase games and lack secondary scoring, it will be hard to avoid some extended losing streaks. And with the way the standings stack up, a mere five game skid can take a team like the Habs to close to the bottom. It sure will be nice to turn over some of the forward roster in the offseason. There's no way that we'd be worse off with the likes of Heineman, Beck, Mesar in the lineup than Pitlick, Armia, Dadonov (to name a few). Armia is on a trajectory for an offseason buyout. Can't shoot. Can't take a pass. Can't handle the puck. Out of veteran respect they keep putting him out there to give him a chance to turn things around, but eventually they'll have to cut bait. |
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Post by habsorbed on Dec 16, 2022 12:34:13 GMT -5
They cannot resign Drouin... no accountability... he has made costly mistakes but sticks to the we vernacular... a leader does not say we... Based on what Drouin said maybe he wants to coach... those that can... do... those that can't coach... At least Carey blamed himself when they lost in the finals only to have Weber tell him that's not true... Drouin or Hoffman working the point with the extra man: pick your poison. Guhle is team player, but he must be saying too himself, "Coach you know I can play the point, right?" Specific to Drouin, has any player in the league accomplished so little in their career, yet time after time is given prime time to prove himself and consistently failed. April can't come soon enough to see the last of him: no way anyone wants him by Mar 3. |
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Post by NWTHabsFan on Dec 16, 2022 13:01:32 GMT -5
If the draft was held today, we’d be drafting 11th And there are a number of underachieving teams just below the Habs (in better drafting order) who should leapfrog the boys over a 82 game season. I think the Habs will be in a top ten draft position soon enough without really changing anything. In the end, the team is still developing the young core that will be around for a while or longer. It is most of the veterans that just are not up to snuff, and most will be phased out by attrition over the next number of seasons anyway. |
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Post by folatre on Dec 16, 2022 13:11:59 GMT -5
I guess one can never say never, but I doubt Armia gets bought out with two more years of contract. That would spread the pain (or stain) over four years. For that matter, I doubt management buys out Hoffman.
Basically the only big ticket item to get squared away is Caufield's contract. And there should be plenty of room with Dadonov, Drouin, and Byron departing. Likewise, Monahan's cap hit will be smaller if he re-signs. Though I actually think management trades him at the deadline and he signs elsewhere in the summer.
11th? That is still too much in no man's land for my liking. But Nashville, St. Louis, and Ottawa should be able to pass Montreal without even getting out of third gear. Vancouver is hard to call because it is such a dysfunctional organization there could be fire sale and/or the players could just mail it in.
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Post by Willie Dog on Dec 16, 2022 14:16:08 GMT -5
They cannot resign Drouin... no accountability... he has made costly mistakes but sticks to the we vernacular... a leader does not say we... Based on what Drouin said maybe he wants to coach... those that can... do... those that can't coach... At least Carey blamed himself when they lost in the finals only to have Weber tell him that's not true... Drouin or Hoffman working the point with the extra man: pick your poison. Guhle is team player, but he must be saying too himself, "Coach you know I can play the point, right?" Specific to Drouin, has any player in the league accomplished so little in their career, yet time after time is given prime time to prove himself and consistently failed. April can't come soon enough to see the last of him: no way anyone wants him by Mar 3. Meanwhile he has made almost $40 million USD... just go away and enjoy the rest of your life so we can enjoy watching the Habs without you screwing things up.... |
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