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Post by Disgruntled70sHab on Feb 14, 2023 21:32:50 GMT -5
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Post by habsorbed on Feb 16, 2023 10:35:19 GMT -5
OK, we gotta get back in the loss column. We've gained way too many points, particularly on the Canucks. I just want a loss, even if it's 3-2 and KK gets the hat trick.
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Post by drkcloud on Feb 16, 2023 19:07:45 GMT -5
Dach isn't playing due to illness. Should help with the loss
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Post by folatre on Feb 16, 2023 19:26:09 GMT -5
Seriously, Dach is ill? Okay, that makes it a steep climb. Did Drouin, Pitlick, and Dadanov flip a coin to figure out who will play the pivot tonight. By the way, what the heck happened to Monahan?
Wow, turn the tv on and get the aggravation that it is Cam Ward Night in Carolina. The Whalers never bothered me one bit, but man the Hurricanes are a different story, thanks mainly to Williams high-sticking Koivu out of a series the Habs would have won, but also all their silly indignation about the Aho offer sheet and their stupid revenge tour that landed them an overpaid 3C. And maybe I am a little old school, but I do not see any genuine sporting emotions involved in doing scripted regular season post-game celebrations and the club's trolling social media accounts are lame sauce.
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Post by folatre on Feb 16, 2023 19:37:03 GMT -5
How can a guy with a fourth line skill level (and I go on the record again seeing value in him and wanting to re-sign him) like Pezzetta pot a sweet goal on the rush for his fifth of the season and a guy with great hands like Drouin has zero...
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Post by drkcloud on Feb 16, 2023 19:49:20 GMT -5
Seriously, I have grown an active dislike for KK
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Post by folatre on Feb 16, 2023 19:49:27 GMT -5
God, Wideman is so brutal. Xhekaj takes the body there and plants him on his azz.
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Post by seventeen on Feb 16, 2023 20:19:02 GMT -5
Seriously, I have grown an active dislike for KK He’s been scoring lately. He constantly has amongst the best possession numbers on the Canes, is an excellent defensive centre and wins 52.5% of his faceoffs. If he starts to put up points, he’ll become a pretty good centre, exactly what we needed, except for the derailing executed si amazingly well by Berg & Co. |
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Post by Willie Dog on Feb 16, 2023 20:21:51 GMT -5
How can a guy with a fourth line skill level (and I go on the record again seeing value in him and wanting to re-sign him) like Pezzetta pot a sweet goal on the rush for his fifth of the season and a guy with great hands like Drouin has zero... Simple... ❤️ 💙 💜 💖 💗 |
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Post by Willie Dog on Feb 16, 2023 20:22:31 GMT -5
Seriously, I have grown an active dislike for KK I still like him, I have no ill will towards him... he took an offer sheet anyone of us would have taken in a heartbeat... any and all dislike should be directed at the bozos responsible for wasting 10 years of my life as a habs fan (2021 was pretty fun though) |
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Post by folatre on Feb 16, 2023 20:34:43 GMT -5
He may someday produce at the rate a contender needs from a 2C. Or he may never quite get there.
The problem for Carolina is they will be facing major cap pressure after next season because all of the following guys will need new deals: Aho, Pesce, Skjei, Jarvis, Necas, Teravainen. Serious major raises will be in order among that list. So if Kotkaniemi cannot find that next level to produce like a 2C on a contending team, I could see Carolina's management scouring the league to find him a new home.
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Post by seventeen on Feb 16, 2023 21:08:15 GMT -5
He may someday produce at the rate a contender needs from a 2C. Or he may never quite get there. The problem for Carolina is they will be facing major cap pressure after next season because all of the following guys will need new deals: Aho, Pesce, Skjei, Jarvis, Necas, Teravainen. Serious major raises will be in order among that list. So if Kotkaniemi cannot find that next level to produce like a 2C on a contending team, I could see Carolina's management scouring the league to find him a new home. I don’t like the Canes but they use my preferred strategy regarding the Cap. Draft and develop well, trade the expensive, mature players who aren’t difference makers for picks and replace them with the cheap kids. Gotta draft and develop really well, though. |
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Post by seventeen on Feb 16, 2023 21:28:08 GMT -5
I think Kovacevic is going to be the first casualty of the kids on our Back line. That was a weak attempt, if one can even call it that, to stop Burns.
Thank god, i was beginning to think we were unbeatable. The tank is on. I just wish Florida was more cooperative.
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Post by Willie Dog on Feb 16, 2023 21:28:37 GMT -5
How did Dadanov ever score 114 goals in 5 NHL season with absolutely zero hockey IQ
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Post by folatre on Feb 16, 2023 21:29:04 GMT -5
I feel bad Montembeault. He kept the boys in the game through two periods. But the breakdowns to start the third are ridiculous.
I guess to be philosophical about it. Carolina and Toronto (Saturday) are among the top five teams in the NHL, so this week is going to finish on tough note.
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Post by Willie Dog on Feb 16, 2023 21:29:37 GMT -5
I think Kovacevic is going to be the first casualty of the kids on our Back line. That was a weak attempt, if one can even call it that, to stop Burns. Thank god, i was beginning to think we were unbeatable. The tank is on. I just wish Florida was more cooperative. I would agree, he's not as bad as Wideman, but he will be Wideman in 3 years |
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Post by jkr on Feb 16, 2023 21:34:57 GMT -5
Seriously, I have grown an active dislike for KK He’s been scoring lately. He constantly has amongst the best possession numbers on the Canes, is an excellent defensive centre and wins 52.5% of his faceoffs. If he starts to put up points, he’ll become a pretty good centre, exactly what we needed, except for the derailing executed si amazingly well by Berg & Co. He's played about 120 games for the canes and has 50 points. I dont really think he's going to be much more than he is right now. Let's face it. Drafting him was a big mistake when Tkachuk, Quinn Hughes of even Noah Dobson were available. |
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Post by jkr on Feb 16, 2023 21:37:29 GMT -5
I feel bad Montembeault. He kept the boys in the game through two periods. But the breakdowns to start the third are ridiculous. I guess to be philosophical about it. Carolina and Toronto (Saturday) are among the top five teams in the NHL, so this week is going to finish on tough note. Maybe but they are 2-0 against Toronto this season. And the Leafs were beaten by Columbus last Saturday. |
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Post by Willie Dog on Feb 16, 2023 21:47:03 GMT -5
We have a line consisting of dadanov, Hoffman and pitlick... jeebus
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Post by folatre on Feb 16, 2023 21:54:25 GMT -5
Dude, you are up 5-2 in a meaningless game, I get it, it is your first hattie, but maybe tone down the celebration a little.
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Post by Willie Dog on Feb 16, 2023 21:55:53 GMT -5
Tank nation is happy with this loss... Marty looks beyond frustrated.. the young guys are playing ok but the vets are less than useless...
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Post by seventeen on Feb 16, 2023 21:59:34 GMT -5
I think Kovacevic is going to be the first casualty of the kids on our Back line. That was a weak attempt, if one can even call it that, to stop Burns. Thank god, i was beginning to think we were unbeatable. The tank is on. I just wish Florida was more cooperative. I would agree, he's not as bad as Wideman, but he will be Wideman in 3 years The two were paired a bit today. Either that is grooming for failure, or just the least worse of many bad options. Saw Kovacevic's name on a trade tracker today. Couldn't believe it. I thought he'd stick with the team because of his age, but maybe management has seen the inevitable and has decided to move him while he has some value (if he does). |
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Post by Willie Dog on Feb 16, 2023 22:02:48 GMT -5
The season is done for Nick... he looks thoroughly uninterested out there... we just need the laval boys to stop trying so hard...
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Post by seventeen on Feb 16, 2023 22:04:00 GMT -5
He’s been scoring lately. He constantly has amongst the best possession numbers on the Canes, is an excellent defensive centre and wins 52.5% of his faceoffs. If he starts to put up points, he’ll become a pretty good centre, exactly what we needed, except for the derailing executed si amazingly well by Berg & Co. He's played about 120 games for the canes and has 50 points. I dont really think he's going to be much more than he is right now. Let's face it. Drafting him was a big mistake when Tkachuk, Quinn Hughes of even Noah Dobson were available. Hindsight. I liked him and Hughes. Was never a fan of Tkachuk and I still wouldn't take him even in a re-draft. His teams never accomplish much, regardless of his personal stats. Right now, he's getting the benefit of playing with Stutzle, who has really found his game. Brady would still score, even with a different centre, but man....his family and their teams just never accomplish what you think they should. If I was Dorion, I'd seriously look at trading him. Course, if I was Dubas, I'd look seriously at trading Matthews too. Maybe I'm just a chaos machine. |
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Post by seventeen on Feb 16, 2023 22:05:30 GMT -5
We have a line consisting of dadanov, Hoffman and pitlick... jeebus And it still took the Canes until the 3rd period to take the game away. Talk about not grasping the bull by the horns. |
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Post by folatre on Feb 16, 2023 22:10:36 GMT -5
Granted, his ceiling is nothing more than a third pair type guy. However, Kovacevic is on a super cheap contract, so I would assume he is not going anywhere.
And why would anyone trade for a green 6-8 guy with no playoff experience? Hockey is debatable but for me this is simply not the type of d-man that moves at the deadline.
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Post by habsorbed on Feb 16, 2023 22:59:04 GMT -5
Tank nation is happy with this loss... Marty looks beyond frustrated.. the young guys are playing ok but the vets are less than useless... Yup the vets are the poster boys for the tank. Wideman was -4 in the 3rd period. Dads and Drouin were -3. So we have to thank them for getting us back on track for Bedard. But they are ensuring any interested gms will stay away. |
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Post by habsorbed on Feb 16, 2023 23:01:06 GMT -5
I would agree, he's not as bad as Wideman, but he will be Wideman in 3 years The two were paired a bit today. Either that is grooming for failure, or just the least worse of many bad options. Saw Kovacevic's name on a trade tracker today. Couldn't believe it. I thought he'd stick with the team because of his age, but maybe management has seen the inevitable and has decided to move him while he has some value (if he does). Kov is definitely the first of the rookies who will be given up on. altho I do think he'd be a decent 7th or 8th for a playoff contender. Wonder what a gm would offer? |
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Post by PTH on Feb 17, 2023 11:52:17 GMT -5
The two were paired a bit today. Either that is grooming for failure, or just the least worse of many bad options. Saw Kovacevic's name on a trade tracker today. Couldn't believe it. I thought he'd stick with the team because of his age, but maybe management has seen the inevitable and has decided to move him while he has some value (if he does). Kov is definitely the first of the rookies who will be given up on. altho I do think he'd be a decent 7th or 8th for a playoff contender. Wonder what a gm would offer? Well, I'm thinking Harris is the one most likely to be traded over the next couple of seasons... Wifi, Guhle and Barron all have specific attributes that make them valuable, and Kov has one too - he's cheap and signed. For a 6th D, he's perfect. Harris though, on his new contract, is double the price of Kov and has yet to show toughness, all-around solid play or offense, which are the attributes the others have. If a D is included in a trade for, say, a winger next season, I think Harris will be the guy moved out. |
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Post by Willie Dog on Feb 17, 2023 12:21:36 GMT -5
Kov is definitely the first of the rookies who will be given up on. altho I do think he'd be a decent 7th or 8th for a playoff contender. Wonder what a gm would offer? Well, I'm thinking Harris is the one most likely to be traded over the next couple of seasons... Wifi, Guhle and Barron all have specific attributes that make them valuable, and Kov has one too - he's cheap and signed. For a 6th D, he's perfect. Harris though, on his new contract, is double the price of Kov and has yet to show toughness, all-around solid play or offense, which are the attributes the others have. If a D is included in a trade for, say, a winger next season, I think Harris will be the guy moved out. Kova is a righty and we're weaker on the right side On the left we have Guhle Xhekaj Eddy Matheson Harris On the right we have Savard Barron Kova Wideman Eddy should be gone by the TDL, that leaves us with 4 on each side We will add Mailloux(R) and Hutson(L) in a couple of years... We need a top 6 winger and a top 4D out of this draft Ideally our D should be Guhle-Mailloux Xhejak-Hutson Harris-Barron |
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