Bruins get Orlov

[seventeen]

I’ve always liked Orlov as a player. UFA next year so he’s a rental. Bruins gave up a 1st this year, 2nd and 3rd in future years and Craig Smith. Caps retain half and Wild another 25%.

I sure hope Pasternak gets $11MM next year, or better yet, goes UFA. That would be a treat.

[jkr]

Is that what the Wild are going to do this year? Take on salary for other teams leftovers?

I never saw Orlov on these trade trackers the sports networks show us all the time. Wonder what they will talk about on deadline day.

Washington lost to Anaheim today & Pitt was spanked by the Oilers 7-2. They are slipping behind in the wild card race. Maybe more moves to come?

[folatre]

Boston basically paid the same price as Toronto. Essentially it is a first and second for the headline player and a third for the energy bottom six forward, plus the scrap for Minnesota retaining money.

The Bruins have a formidable bluenline. It will be very tough for anyone to take them down. Maybe Ullmark and Swayman wilt under pressure? But Boston has been so good this season, it would be a serious upset.

Guerin is doing the kind of stuff Bergevin was good at, efficiently taking care of minor taks/issues while being too clueless or tentative to address the real holes. Minnesota is in a tooth and nail battle to make the playoffs and he should be trying to get at least one impact rental up front.

[Tankdriver]

Feb 24, 2023 11:22:33 GMT -5 folatre said:

Boston basically paid the same price as Toronto. Essentially it is a first and second for the headline player and a third for the energy bottom six forward, plus the scrap for Minnesota retaining money.

The Bruins have a formidable bluenline. It will be very tough for anyone to take them down. Maybe Ullmark and Swayman wilt under pressure? But Boston has been so good this season, it would be a serious upset.

Guerin is doing the kind of stuff Bergevin was good at, efficiently taking care of minor taks/issues while being too clueless or tentative to address the real holes. Minnesota is in a tooth and nail battle to make the playoffs and he should be trying to get at least one impact rental up front.

I think it is the opposite. The Wild know they don't have a cup winning team and are not going to drop assets on a player to get them to the playoffs or make the second round. So ideally they are trying to make the playoffs if they can but won't ruin their plan in doing so. They are in reset mode at the moment. I wouldn't be surprised if Dumba is traded to be honest.

[folatre]

The West is just so wide open this season, for me it seems like any club sitting in a playoff spot after 60 games should get aggressive. You are probably right about what Guerin is thinking. I just do not understand it. Fleury surely did not re-sign there last summer so management can collect mid-round picks and potentially miss the playoffs. Flower lives for big games. Guerin may as well trade Fleury if he lacks confidence in his team. And Zuccarello is 35 years old so how does a first line forward of that age fit into a reset?

[jkr]

I agree folatre. Some GMs are showing that they believe in their teams. Guerin is saying - sorry guys you aren't good enough. It's a bad precedent.

[seventeen]

Feb 24, 2023 11:22:33 GMT -5 folatre said:

The Bruins have a formidable bluenline. It will be very tough for anyone to take them down. Maybe Ullmark and Swayman wilt under pressure? But Boston has been so good this season, it would be a serious upset.

Just like Calgary last year, Boston has had remarkable luck with injuries. they've been able to run with a very good 3rd line that is the equal of several 2nd lines in the NHL. You throw in a career year for Ullmark and WYSIWYG. But the ultimate stumbler is always luck and if a few key injuries hit late, ouch. Related to injuries is the fact the East is a beast this year and even if Boston manages to get through to the SC final, if they've run into the Rangers or any of those other teams that have loaded up, it's going to be a war and how will they hold up? I think if Bergeron has an injury it really throws them out of whack. Krejci has to be the #1, Coyle the #2 and then it's Zacha (listed as a centre but questionable) and Fredric. The Bruins are loaded on defense and on the wing, but centre, the most important position, can be an Achilles heel.

I can't find anything about how Ullmark has done in the playoffs. All I can find is he played 5 games in Sweden, 2 games in the AHL and 2 games for Boston in his entire career. It will be an interesting test of his mental toughness. Swayman doesn't impress me (I make quick judgments). Perhaps the fact I keep calling him Swayback is a factor. I see him as a capable backup whose numbers look good playing behind a solid team that has faced no adversity. Besides, the ultimate Cup killer, (Hall) is on that team. j

There's still hope that Boston doesn't win it this year and once that is done the slide begins.

[folatre]

Well, once they got it rolling, the Bruins have certainly been healthy. But they did start the season with Marchand and McAvoy missing the first month. So basically Boston bonded, buckled down, played with an us against the world no one respects us anymore type vibe and then got everyone back and just kept rolling.

I see Boston as the favorite, but honestly if I were a betting man and someone said okay you can have the Bruins or the field in the East then I think I would take the field.

[halihab]

I believe Hathaway is the sleeper in this trade. He is your perfect playoff power forward. Imagine him with Anderson and Dubois ? Nylander would not be within 10 feet of any corner of the ice.

He is a great pick up by the Bruins.

[jkr]

Is that called hedging your bet - Boston or 7 other teams?😀

I dont have the hate on for Boston that others here do. For me it begins and ends with Toronto. If Boston in the Finals is the price to pay to keep Toronto out, I would gladly pay that.

[folatre]

Jeje, maybe it is called hedging. I just said that because often there is the impulse for people to say oh my God the Bruins are setting records so of course they are going to win it all.

Yeah, I hear you. Growing up I hated the Bruins primarily and the Flyers secondarily more than anything in the world. But the Leafs have begun to carve out a niche (driven more by the Toronto media and fans than any particular guys who play for the Leafs) of dislike in the Folatre household.

I prefer that Toronto loses first round, which cannot be at the hands of Boston. The prospect of Leafs-Bruins in round two is disgusting to think about.

[halihab]

Feb 24, 2023 20:40:07 GMT -5 folatre said:

Jeje, maybe it is called hedging. I just said that because often there is the impulse for people to say oh my God the Bruins are setting records so of course they are going to win it all.

Yeah, I hear you. Growing up I hated the Bruins primarily and the Flyers secondarily more than anything in the world. But the Leafs have begun to carve out a niche (driven more by the Toronto media and fans than any particular guys who play for the Leafs) of dislike in the Folatre household.

I prefer that Toronto loses first round, which cannot be at the hands of Boston. The prospect of Leafs-Bruins in round two is disgusting to think about.

Bruins in 4 straight. Love it. Marchand beats the crap out of Nylander. Pastrnak shows up Matthews.

That's how much I hate the Leafs, to put this much praise on the Bruins.

[seventeen]

I feel the opposite. I don't like the Leafs either, but I can appreciate that they have improved their team to one that is better suited for the playoffs, one that isn't focused around Matthews and one that is Canadian. I can't stand Marchand, no matter how well he plays. One of my favourite highlights is PK blowing Marchand out of the water with that hip check. Geeze I miss PK. He always set the tone vs Boston and took the joy out of Boston Garden.

[Willie Dog]

Feb 25, 2023 18:01:19 GMT -5 seventeen said:

I feel the opposite. I don't like the Leafs either, but I can appreciate that they have improved their team to one that is better suited for the playoffs, one that isn't focused around Matthews and one that is Canadian. I can't stand Marchand, no matter how well he plays. One of my favourite highlights is PK blowing Marchand out of the water with that hip check. Geeze I miss PK. He always set the tone vs Boston and took the joy out of Boston Garden.

Even the PK haters have to admit he always brought his best against the beaners...

[halihab]

Feb 25, 2023 18:01:19 GMT -5 seventeen said:

I feel the opposite. I don't like the Leafs either, but I can appreciate that they have improved their team to one that is better suited for the playoffs, one that isn't focused around Matthews and one that is Canadian. I can't stand Marchand, no matter how well he plays. One of my favourite highlights is PK blowing Marchand out of the water with that hip check. Geeze I miss PK. He always set the tone vs Boston and took the joy out of Boston Garden.

Don't get me wrong, I can't stand Marchand either, but that is how much I hate the Leafs.

[Willie Dog]

I want the Bruins and leafs to meet in the first round and both lose...