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Post by seventeen on Mar 4, 2023 13:20:28 GMT -5
Yikes, with those games upcoming, being the team leading the league in penalties might be a problem. You know, boys, considering the Habs lead the league in penalties and also have one of the five worst penalty kills, the season a guy like Montembeault is putting together is all the more noteworthy. Because teams drowning in power play goals against generally have goalies with dreadful GA and Save% numbers. Is Burrows the PK coach? Asking for a friend. Some of the weakness is just due to quality of players. David Savard and Joel Edmundson help spend a lot of time in our end at 5 on 5. It's that much worse 4 on 5. Not getting to pucks quickly enough, slow first step, blah, blah.
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Post by Willie Dog on Mar 4, 2023 14:02:56 GMT -5
Habs have a tank-friendly 10 game stretch in the schedule starting tomorrow: vegas, Carolina, NYR, Jersey, Colorado, Pittsburgh, florida, tampa x2, Boston. We'll probably win the Tammpa games. They're flagging already. The others are tough, yes, but our guys seem to really get up for those games. That's a lot of games vs strong teams, though. Tanknation says the Florida is a must win, the rest need to be losses
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Post by habsorbed on Mar 4, 2023 16:17:09 GMT -5
We'll probably win the Tammpa games. They're flagging already. The others are tough, yes, but our guys seem to really get up for those games. That's a lot of games vs strong teams, though. Tanknation says the Florida is a must win, the rest need to be losses That's going to be a tough one. Keep in mind that in the grouping we are currently in, each position in the standings we drop we improve our lottery chances of 1st overall by 1%. Whereas the grouping Fla is in, each position they drop only improves lottery chances for the 1st overall by .5%. Let's see what the standings are like at game time and then figure out whom to root for.
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Post by PTH on Mar 4, 2023 22:19:49 GMT -5
Tanknation says the Florida is a must win, the rest need to be losses That's going to be a tough one. Keep in mind that in the grouping we are currently in, each position in the standings we drop we improve our lottery chances of 1st overall by 1%. Whereas the grouping Fla is in, each position they drop only improves lottery chances for the 1st overall by .5%. Let's see what the standings are like at game time and then figure out whom to root for. Hmm. From my point of view, the key thing is Florida staying in the bottom 11, so their odds of winning the lottery still lead to Bedard... if they finish 14th and win the lottery, that's great and all, but other than Bedard, and to a lesser extent Fantilli, there are no sure things in this draft (as if there ever were...). So if a Montreal win means Florida stays bottom 11 and their lottery odds increase our odds of Bedard, that cancels out increase from being 6th rather than 7th. I wonder if ever we move forward in the draft thanks to Florida's pick, if that counts as one of 2 wins in a 5 year period.
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Post by Willie Dog on Mar 4, 2023 22:58:09 GMT -5
That's going to be a tough one. Keep in mind that in the grouping we are currently in, each position in the standings we drop we improve our lottery chances of 1st overall by 1%. Whereas the grouping Fla is in, each position they drop only improves lottery chances for the 1st overall by .5%. Let's see what the standings are like at game time and then figure out whom to root for. Hmm. From my point of view, the key thing is Florida staying in the bottom 11, so their odds of winning the lottery still lead to Bedard... if they finish 14th and win the lottery, that's great and all, but other than Bedard, and to a lesser extent Fantilli, there are no sure things in this draft (as if there ever were...). So if a Montreal win means Florida stays bottom 11 and their lottery odds increase our odds of Bedard, that cancels out increase from being 6th rather than 7th. I wonder if ever we move forward in the draft thanks to Florida's pick, if that counts as one of 2 wins in a 5 year period. I think the counting wins is if you jump spots to 1st... if you are in last place like we were last year it doesn't count towards the 5 year cap
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Post by PTH on Mar 4, 2023 23:59:40 GMT -5
Hmm. From my point of view, the key thing is Florida staying in the bottom 11, so their odds of winning the lottery still lead to Bedard... if they finish 14th and win the lottery, that's great and all, but other than Bedard, and to a lesser extent Fantilli, there are no sure things in this draft (as if there ever were...). So if a Montreal win means Florida stays bottom 11 and their lottery odds increase our odds of Bedard, that cancels out increase from being 6th rather than 7th. I wonder if ever we move forward in the draft thanks to Florida's pick, if that counts as one of 2 wins in a 5 year period. I think the counting wins is if you jump spots to 1st... if you are in last place like we were last year it doesn't count towards the 5 year cap Agreed, the Habs staying 1st doesn't count. But would it count if it's done through a lottery win of a pick we acquired through a trade ? Could that negate a top-5 pick if Calgary's pick ends up top-5 in 2025? (assuming Florida is top-10 as well, so their pick is out of the picture) I'm kind of answering myself... if the limit could be applied to traded picks, the NHL would've made that a condition in the Monahan deal. Though, no, it would be possible for both Montreal and Calgary to have advanced in the lottery in 2023 and 2024, before the 2025 lottery... would that negate the Monahan deal somehow ?
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