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Post by CentreHice on Mar 4, 2023 10:39:19 GMT -5
He'll have collected all $33 million at the end of this season.
What's going to happen? 27 and still in his so-called prime.
Obviously, he won't be re-signed by HuGo.
I presume he was up for grabs recently (TDL). Could some teams be waiting for him to hit UFA status, to get him on the cheap? Could he find himself in Europe next season?
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Post by Willie Dog on Mar 4, 2023 11:00:41 GMT -5
I'll say he'll go to Europe, bigger ice surface, less contact, easier to do double toe loop, triple lutz and a swizzle...
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Post by habsorbed on Mar 4, 2023 11:17:37 GMT -5
He'll have collected all $33 million at the end of this season. What's going to happen? 27 and still in his so-called prime. Obviously, he won't be re-signed by HuGo. I presume he was up for grabs recently (TDL). Could some teams be waiting for him to hit UFA status, to get him on the cheap? Could he find himself in Europe next season? I don't think any gm is waiting until the summer to get Drouin on the cheap. They could have got him now on the cheap and seen what he's about for 20 games and maybe even in the playoffs. Sure as a FA the signing gm gives up nothing, but the ask by HuGo at this stage could not have been very much (4th or 5th rounder and HuGo retain some salary) as HuGo is getting nothing for him now. So as an FA Drouin is marginally cheaper but the benefit for the signing gm to see what Drouin is about these next few months and perhaps even get some contribution from Drouin far outweighs waiting until the summer. I'm not so sure HuGo won't resign Drouin. In my view he may be playing some of his best hockey as a Hab these last few weeks. I know that's not saying much but as I've made clear for a number of years now I'm not a fan of Mr Softie. Indeed, I believe I was the first on this board to pan Mr Softie and received a fair amount of push back way back when. In any event, I haven't ruled out HuGo signing Drouin on the cheap this summer if Drouin shows he has finally matured and realizes he needs to work hard and engage on every shift. And who knows, maybe the pressure of being the Habs highest paid forward and expected to be the hometown saviour, which he was for a few years with the fans' high expectations, was too much for the kid. Fans no longer have those expectations and still won't if Drouin is getting $1.5 million a year. I'm not saying I'm in favour of signing him, but I don't think HuGo has ruled that out. |
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Post by Lord Bebop on Mar 4, 2023 12:20:45 GMT -5
Yeah it might be tough… he’s a PTO type guy at this point. I wish the best for him. I got a soft spot for people who suffered(suffering?) with mental health so I hope he finds a place somewhere. I don’t think the pressure cooker, like Montreal, is the place for him
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Post by Willie Dog on Mar 4, 2023 12:38:40 GMT -5
HuGo better not sign him... it would be a slap in the face to every hard working minimum salary player the Habs have... Drouin is not worth the league minimum. I just want his lazy ass gone... he switched his jersey number to the one previously worn by the Big M and Shane Corson, 2 guys with heart... the number change did not change a thing...
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Post by madhabber on Mar 4, 2023 12:44:39 GMT -5
Wasn't he offered for nothing throughout the league a couple of weeks ago. At least according to some pundits. No takers.
No no one will take him on. He's been in the league long enough, everyone knows what he's about. All the GMs, all the pro scouts. Heck even all the fans for every team. His options will be Europe or retirement. He'll reap whet he's sewn for the past 6 years in Montreal. He gave nothing, he'll get nothing.
Hugo won't bring him back on the cheap, no matter how cheap. We are rebuilding and part of that rebuild is to surround the team with the right attitude. A broken down and overpaid Gallagher is way more important to team culture than a healthy Drouin. (as an example)
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Post by folatre on Mar 4, 2023 12:53:06 GMT -5
I may have a different take than some. I believe Drouin loves hockey. By all accounts, he is a hockey junkie. But it is clear he has had confidence issues and, in general, an ability to put the last shift out of his mind when it did not go his way.
Time will say. However, if I have to forecast the future, at least in the short-term I would say he stays in the NHL. Obviously the contract that Bergevin gave him will seem like a distant memory. Though I think he will make more than the league min, perhaps something like 1 year/$1.75 million or 2 years/$1.5 AAV.
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Post by Willie Dog on Mar 4, 2023 13:09:07 GMT -5
I may have a different take than some. I believe Drouin loves hockey. By all accounts, he is a hockey junkie. But it is clear he has had confidence issues and, in general, an ability to put the last shift out of his mind when it did not go his way. Time will say. However, if I have to forecast the future, at least in the short-term I would say he stays in the NHL. Obviously the contract that Bergevin gave him will seem like a distant memory. Though I think he will make more than the league min, perhaps something like 1 year/$1.75 million or 2 years/$1.5 AAV. Then mbhead should sign him... HuGo better not |
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Post by seventeen on Mar 4, 2023 13:24:51 GMT -5
He'll have collected all $33 million at the end of this season. What's going to happen? 27 and still in his so-called prime. Obviously, he won't be re-signed by HuGo. I presume he was up for grabs recently (TDL). Could some teams be waiting for him to hit UFA status, to get him on the cheap? Could he find himself in Europe next season? I don't think any gm is waiting until the summer to get Drouin on the cheap. They could have got him now on the cheap and seen what he's about for 20 games and maybe even in the playoffs. Sure as a FA the signing gm gives up nothing, but the ask by HuGo at this stage could not have been very much (4th or 5th rounder and HuGo retain some salary) as HuGo is getting nothing for him now. So as an FA Drouin is marginally cheaper but the benefit for the signing gm to see what Drouin is about these next few months and perhaps even get some contribution from Drouin far outweighs waiting until the summer. I'm not so sure HuGo won't resign Drouin. In my view he may be playing some of his best hockey as a Hab these last few weeks. I know that's not saying much but as I've made clear for a number of years now I'm not a fan of Mr Softie. Indeed, I believe I was the first on this board to pan Mr Softie and received a fair amount of push back way back when. In any event, I haven't ruled out HuGo signing Drouin on the cheap this summer if Drouin shows he has finally matured and realizes he needs to work hard and engage on every shift. And who knows, maybe the pressure of being the Habs highest paid forward and expected to be the hometown saviour, which he was for a few years with the fans' high expectations, was too much for the kid. Fans no longer have those expectations and still won't if Drouin is getting $1.5 million a year. I'm not saying I'm in favour of signing him, but I don't think HuGo has ruled that out. As you allude to, the reason no one wanted him now is the same reason the Habs might re-sign him in the summer...a $5MM contract. Why pay what's left on JD's exorbitant salary for another 20 games if he's not a difference maker? At $700K a year, he might be worth a flyer. He would cost about $1.25MM for the rest of the year. |
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Post by CentreHice on Mar 4, 2023 13:25:37 GMT -5
I'm not so sure HuGo won't resign Drouin. In my view he may be playing some of his best hockey as a Hab these last few weeks. I know that's not saying much but as I've made clear for a number of years now I'm not a fan of Mr Softie. Indeed, I believe I was the first on this board to pan Mr Softie and received a fair amount of push back way back when. In any event, I haven't ruled out HuGo signing Drouin on the cheap this summer if Drouin shows he has finally matured and realizes he needs to work hard and engage on every shift. And who knows, maybe the pressure of being the Habs highest paid forward and expected to be the hometown saviour, which he was for a few years with the fans' high expectations, was too much for the kid. Fans no longer have those expectations and still won't if Drouin is getting $1.5 million a year. I'm not saying I'm in favour of signing him, but I don't think HuGo has ruled that out. Perhaps you see a recent improvement in his game for the same reason other players suddenly "improve"--it's the last part of a contract year. ======================= As to the pressure...he more than welcomed it upon his arrival in 2017. "There's obviously a lot of pressure playing in Montreal, everybody knows that," Drouin said. "But for me as a player I think I'd rather have that pressure on myself [here] than some other places. I'm French-Canadian and I'm going to thrive on that pressure. I like that stuff."Fans took note of that prediction. He never lived up to it, which drew a slew of criticism (some hateful in nature)...and that extra weight obviously got to him. He's certainly had his share of primo opportunities to prove himself--re: his statement. |
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Post by jkr on Mar 4, 2023 13:39:20 GMT -5
I think he's finished in the NHL. If he wants to continue to play hockey he will have to go to Europe, probably some place like Switzerland where he can be relatively anonymous & expectations aren't high.
I dont buy the re-signing theory at all. Is the bar so low that 1 goal & 17 points gets you a new deal?
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Post by Disgruntled70sHab on Mar 4, 2023 16:21:18 GMT -5
The trade deadline passes and Jonathan Drouin scores a goal ... wow ... can't see him being a part of Montreal moving forward ... good luck to him, wherever that is ...
Cheers.
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Post by PTH on Mar 4, 2023 16:42:14 GMT -5
I don't know. At a very low salary, he could be a contributor on a lower line on a winning team, adding skill where there usually isn't much.
But I get the feeling his turnovers and uneven play will mean he's a constant source of distraction for lines that are meant to be "seen, not heard", ie, to be quietly effective.
A high-maintenance 4th liner is a non-starter though, and that's what Drouin would be.
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Post by Cranky on Mar 4, 2023 20:10:07 GMT -5
Good AND bad efforts are contagious. Drouin is not Perry.
I rather Drouin move on. I rather not have him infect "good enough" mentality on a slew of kids coming up the next few years.
Also, I'll stick to my prediction that he will retire.
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Post by Tankdriver on Mar 4, 2023 22:29:19 GMT -5
He'll join some team with a 1 yr 1 million dollar that is close to the cep. I can see Toronto or Florida signing him.
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Post by habsorbed on Mar 5, 2023 3:37:46 GMT -5
He'll join some team with a 1 yr 1 million dollar that is close to the cep. I can see Toronto or Florida signing him. And you know he'll get a goal against the Habs as if some sweet revenge. The nightmare may never end  |
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Post by Willie Dog on Mar 5, 2023 8:47:21 GMT -5
He'll join some team with a 1 yr 1 million dollar that is close to the cep. I can see Toronto or Florida signing him. And you know he'll get a goal against the Habs as if some sweet revenge. The nightmare may never end 1st shift, rub him out against the boards and he be like the rest of the wallflowers on the Leafs |
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Post by habsorbed on Mar 5, 2023 12:21:11 GMT -5
And you know he'll get a goal against the Habs as if some sweet revenge. The nightmare may never end 1st shift, rub him out against the boards and he be like the rest of the wallflowers on the Leafs It would be an interference penalty as Drouin is never near the boards if the puck is there. |
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Post by Willie Dog on Mar 5, 2023 15:50:11 GMT -5
1st shift, rub him out against the boards and he be like the rest of the wallflowers on the Leafs It would be an interference penalty as Drouin is never near the boards if the puck is there.  |
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Post by Cranky on Mar 5, 2023 16:05:15 GMT -5
Get X to growl at him...and he'll get an "upper body" injury.
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Post by Habs_fan_in_LA on Mar 7, 2023 12:33:03 GMT -5
HuGo better not sign him... it would be a slap in the face to every hard working minimum salary player the Habs have... Drouin is not worth the league minimum. I just want his lazy ass gone... he switched his jersey number to the one previously worn by the Big M and Shane Corson, 2 guys with heart... the number change did not change a thing... I guarantee that if Drouin gets tons ofpowerplay time next year he will score more than one goal. How much is a two goal scorer worth? |
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