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Post by Disgruntled70sHab on Mar 28, 2023 21:35:51 GMT -5
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Post by habsorbed on Mar 29, 2023 1:11:46 GMT -5
Well, here we go again. Who does one root for in this game? When the Fla played Mtl a couple of weeks ago, I was all in on a Fla win. Things have changed and now I'm all in on a Habs win.
A few weeks ago, Habs were looking to finish anywhere from 4th to 9th which is a huge differential both for the Bedard lottery and just straight out picking in the first round. so I wanted a Habs loss. Now, barring a complete surprise, Habs are almost certain to finish 5th or 6th as we jockey with Arizona. So 2 points one way or another is a difference between a 7.5% or 8.5% chance at Bedard, and only one position in draft order.
Meanwhile Fla has struggled mightily the past few weeks. And with a little nudge could fall to 11th worst and we pick up a further 3% points on the the Bedard sweepstakes. Moreover,even if they don't fall to 11th, they could finish anywhere between 12th and 17th worst. That's a potential drop of 6 positions in the draft. That's huge. As well, we certainly don't want Fla to make the playoffs and go on a run as that could vault them way up.
So in my view, the points for Mtl, win or lose, are not that critical to Mtl's final position. Whereas, every point Fla loses will count in their final ranking with so many teams jammed together in the middle of the pack.
So, I am for the first time in months, full on GO HABS GO!!!
And tomorrow, Fla plays TO so I will be Go Leafs Go. There I said it. Hopefully that doesn't breach the Code of Conduct. But Fla losing B2B against Leafs and Habs would be a dagger to their hopes.
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Post by PTH on Mar 29, 2023 1:22:01 GMT -5
Well, here we go again. Who does one root for in this game? When the Fla played Mtl a couple of weeks ago, I was all in on a Fla win. Things have changed and now I'm all in on a Habs win. A few weeks ago, Habs were looking to finish anywhere from 4th to 9th which is a huge differential both for the Bedard lottery and just straight out picking in the first round. so I wanted a Habs loss. Now, barring a complete surprise, Habs are almost certain to finish 5th or 6th as we jockey with Arizona. So 2 points one way or another is a difference between a 7.5% or 8.5% chance at Bedard, and only one position in draft order. Meanwhile Fla has struggled mightily the past few weeks. And with a little nudge could fall to 11th worst and we pick up a further 3% points on the the Bedard sweepstakes. Moreover,even if they don't fall to 11th, they could finish anywhere between 12th and 17th worst. That's a potential drop of 6 positions in the draft. That's huge. As well, we certainly don't want Fla to make the playoffs and go on a run as that could vault them way up. So in my view, the points for Mtl, win or lose, are not that critical to Mtl's final position. Whereas, every point Fla loses will count in their final ranking with so many teams jammed together in the middle of the pack. So, I am for the first time in months, full on GO HABS GO!!! And tomorrow, Fla plays TO so I will be Go Leafs Go. There I said it. Hopefully that doesn't breach the Code of Conduct. But Fla losing B2B against Leafs and Habs would be a dagger to their hopes. I agree with your analysis. Florida seems to have lost their momentum. And it will be nice rooting for the Habs outright, for once. |
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Post by jkr on Mar 29, 2023 6:47:38 GMT -5
Well, here we go again. Who does one root for in this game? When the Fla played Mtl a couple of weeks ago, I was all in on a Fla win. Things have changed and now I'm all in on a Habs win. A few weeks ago, Habs were looking to finish anywhere from 4th to 9th which is a huge differential both for the Bedard lottery and just straight out picking in the first round. so I wanted a Habs loss. Now, barring a complete surprise, Habs are almost certain to finish 5th or 6th as we jockey with Arizona. So 2 points one way or another is a difference between a 7.5% or 8.5% chance at Bedard, and only one position in draft order. Meanwhile Fla has struggled mightily the past few weeks. And with a little nudge could fall to 11th worst and we pick up a further 3% points on the the Bedard sweepstakes. Moreover,even if they don't fall to 11th, they could finish anywhere between 12th and 17th worst. That's a potential drop of 6 positions in the draft. That's huge. As well, we certainly don't want Fla to make the playoffs and go on a run as that could vault them way up. So in my view, the points for Mtl, win or lose, are not that critical to Mtl's final position. Whereas, every point Fla loses will count in their final ranking with so many teams jammed together in the middle of the pack. So, I am for the first time in months, full on GO HABS GO!!! And tomorrow, Fla plays TO so I will be Go Leafs Go. There I said it. Hopefully that doesn't breach the Code of Conduct. But Fla losing B2B against Leafs and Habs would be a dagger to their hopes. Ugh. Three words in that bottom paragraph that I have never thought, let alone said aloud. As someone with a Catholic upbringing, it may be considered a mortal sin.😀 |
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Post by Willie Dog on Mar 29, 2023 6:59:13 GMT -5
Well, here we go again. Who does one root for in this game? When the Fla played Mtl a couple of weeks ago, I was all in on a Fla win. Things have changed and now I'm all in on a Habs win. A few weeks ago, Habs were looking to finish anywhere from 4th to 9th which is a huge differential both for the Bedard lottery and just straight out picking in the first round. so I wanted a Habs loss. Now, barring a complete surprise, Habs are almost certain to finish 5th or 6th as we jockey with Arizona. So 2 points one way or another is a difference between a 7.5% or 8.5% chance at Bedard, and only one position in draft order. Meanwhile Fla has struggled mightily the past few weeks. And with a little nudge could fall to 11th worst and we pick up a further 3% points on the the Bedard sweepstakes. Moreover,even if they don't fall to 11th, they could finish anywhere between 12th and 17th worst. That's a potential drop of 6 positions in the draft. That's huge. As well, we certainly don't want Fla to make the playoffs and go on a run as that could vault them way up. So in my view, the points for Mtl, win or lose, are not that critical to Mtl's final position. Whereas, every point Fla loses will count in their final ranking with so many teams jammed together in the middle of the pack. So, I am for the first time in months, full on GO HABS GO!!! And tomorrow, Fla plays TO so I will be Go Leafs Go. There I said it. Hopefully that doesn't breach the Code of Conduct. But Fla losing B2B against Leafs and Habs would be a dagger to their hopes. This post is Tanknation approved but the last paragraph is like swallowing a bottle of Ipecac syrup |
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Post by folatre on Mar 29, 2023 14:39:28 GMT -5
Florida is beyond desperate at this stage. Considering their backup is Alex Lyon, I would imagine Bobrovsky, who has a ton of minutes in net in 2023, gets the call tonight and tomorrow.
I agree that it is marginally better for Montreal to beat Florida. It will not be easy, however. I wonder if Allen will be in net. The Panthers made him look like a beer leaguer a few days ago. But to his credit, Allen was good on Monday in Buffalo.
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Post by seventeen on Mar 29, 2023 15:29:36 GMT -5
A quandary, indeed, but as habsorbed concludes in the excellent analysis above, it's all aboard for a Habs win. I can't help feeling that way every time we play a Florida team. I hate their politics, I hate their CAP advantage and how the hell should they have 2 teams, when Quebec has only one?
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Post by NWTHabsFan on Mar 29, 2023 18:12:56 GMT -5
I see the Panthers are playing their no name backup tonight, so we get Bob tomorrow.
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Post by seventeen on Mar 29, 2023 18:19:19 GMT -5
Bob's performance bobs up and down, like those fishing floats. I think we're hooking him. By that I mean he gets yanked.
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Post by jkr on Mar 29, 2023 19:03:50 GMT -5
I see the Panthers are playing their no name backup tonight, so we get Bob tomorrow. I know Bobrovsky has played a lot of hockey but doesn't it make sense to play your No. 1 against the better team? |
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Post by Willie Dog on Mar 29, 2023 19:10:35 GMT -5
I see the Panthers are playing their no name backup tonight, so we get Bob tomorrow. I know Bobrovsky has played a lot of hockey but doesn't it make sense to play your No. 1 against the better team? You play him against the team that has your unprotected 1st overall pick... if they play him against the leaves and they lose then they could go 0 for 2, instead they take a chance against the leaves but they definately want to beat the Habs. |
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Post by folatre on Mar 29, 2023 19:22:21 GMT -5
The Leafs play-by-play guy said Bobrovsky is ill this evening. So I guess the plan was to start him in Toronto but it did not work out. Lyon is standing on his head in the first period, though if the refs can serve up a couple power plays in the second then the tide may turn.
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Post by habsorbed on Mar 29, 2023 21:32:56 GMT -5
The Leafs play-by-play guy said Bobrovsky is ill this evening. So I guess the plan was to start him in Toronto but it did not work out. Lyon is standing on his head in the first period, though if the refs can serve up a couple power plays in the second then the tide may turn. Just watched the game and Fla was a minute away from losing yet another and then they scored with goalie pulled, and then again in OT so went from 0 points to 2 points. Tx Leafs. Can't believe I was rooting for those losers. Boy do I feel dirty. Going to go have a long hot shower with some bleach. Good news is NYI and Caps went to OT. Would have rathered Caps win but at least they're still in the race and not likely Fla can catch NYI now. This is going down to the wire. Sure would be sweet for Habs to beat Fla tomorrow. |
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Post by NWTHabsFan on Mar 30, 2023 10:59:57 GMT -5
Dach out at least a week.
Monty to start.
Savard is a game time decision.
Farrell plays with Gally and Evans.
Go Habs Go!
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Post by jkr on Mar 30, 2023 11:29:49 GMT -5
Dach was looking so good when he came back. Is this related to that cross check he took in OT against Buffalo?
I never hear anything about Armia or the ghost- Monahan. What the heck is going on with these guys? Can't even remember what their injuries were.
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Post by NWTHabsFan on Mar 30, 2023 11:33:12 GMT -5
Dach was looking so good when he came back. Is this related to that cross check he took in OT against Buffalo? I never hear anything about Armia or the ghost- Monahan. What the heck is going on with these guys? Can't even remember what their injuries were. Yes on that cross check in OT. They pulled him into protocol after that play. Armia has recently skated on his own. Monahan is….who the heck knows? |
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Post by Disgruntled70sHab on Mar 30, 2023 12:26:37 GMT -5
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Post by Habs_fan_in_LA on Mar 30, 2023 13:17:03 GMT -5
A quandary, indeed, but as habsorbed concludes in the excellent analysis above, it's all aboard for a Habs win. I can't help feeling that way every time we play a Florida team. I hate their politics, I hate their CAP advantage and how the hell should they have 2 teams, when Quebec has only one? Building a Cup winning team on a 1% improvement from 7% to 8% is not a sure thing. We have a lot of good young prospects but RHP and Hoffman don't stack up against the first lines on a dozen current playoff teams. Adding a number 14th pick isn't the path to the promised land. Recovery from the injury jinx might move us from bottom 5 to struggling for a playoff wild card. At this point we have youth and hope but lack elite talent and proven production. I hate their cap advantage but the fault lies with the Quebec government and taxation. Florida has it right. Quebec tourists flock to Florida, Floridians don't rush to Quebec and the exchange doesn't help. |
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Post by Willie Dog on Mar 30, 2023 18:12:06 GMT -5
Farrel gets his first... woohoo
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Post by Willie Dog on Mar 30, 2023 18:14:08 GMT -5
If there was ever a game where we need Drouin to earn his damn pay this is it... c'mon droopy
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Post by Willie Dog on Mar 30, 2023 18:16:00 GMT -5
Fn Hoffman standing there with a stick check on Lindell... can't wait till he's gone... ass clown
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Post by folatre on Mar 30, 2023 18:18:36 GMT -5
I would like to see Tkachuk drop the gloves with Edmundson. Alas, we know he won't.
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Post by Willie Dog on Mar 30, 2023 18:22:26 GMT -5
I would like to see Tkachuk drop the gloves with Edmundson. Alas, we know he won't. He's the girl of the family |
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Post by folatre on Mar 30, 2023 18:48:45 GMT -5
Not questioning the compete level, but there is no getting around the fact this game has a NHL versus AHL feel to it. Considering Lyon is career AHLer, the boys need get pucks on net and drive the net. Five shots is a flattering count because two of them were literally dump ins from 90 feet.
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Post by jkr on Mar 30, 2023 19:10:22 GMT -5
True about the shot totals. Even the goal looked quite stoppable.
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Post by Tankdriver on Mar 30, 2023 19:15:24 GMT -5
I'm happy with a loss. We need to be in the top 5.
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Post by NWTHabsFan on Mar 30, 2023 19:15:42 GMT -5
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Post by Willie Dog on Mar 30, 2023 19:15:56 GMT -5
Unfortunately doucheboy has scored twice... can't wait until we play them next year and he can get a taste of wifi
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Post by folatre on Mar 30, 2023 19:17:25 GMT -5
I know he only 21 and has less than fifty games in the league, but I wonder if Barron will be able to round out and build up his game enough to avoid being a defensive liability at the NHL level.
Tough for Montembeault to get the call tonight, Florida has just absolutely destroyed the Habs this season and this roster is a total joke right now. But I guess St. Louis did not want poor Allen to face them after what happened to him a couple weeks ago.
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Post by drkcloud on Mar 30, 2023 19:24:46 GMT -5
I know he only 21 and has less than fifty games in the league, but I wonder if Barron will be able to round out and build up his game enough to avoid being a defensive liability at the NHL level. Tough for Montembeault to get the call tonight, Florida has just absolutely destroyed the Habs this season and this roster is a total joke right now. But I guess St. Louis did not want poor Allen to face them after what happened to him a couple weeks ago. I agree about Barron. I have yet to see him do anything particularly well. He does deliver nice breakout passes at times but is definitely weak in his own zone. I could see him being overtaken on the depth chart. |
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