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Post by Disgruntled70sHab on Apr 1, 2023 18:29:09 GMT -5
Detroit Red Wings vs Montreal Canadiens
1981-82 Saskatoon Blades (WHL) Police
#10 Brian Skrudland
1984-85 Sherbrooke Canadiens
Seven players who won the Cup with the Habs in '86, had also won the AHL Calder Cup with the Sherbrooke Canadiens in '85.
They are Mike Lalor, Brian Skrudland, Stephane Richer, Serge Boisvert, Gaston Gingras, John Kordic and Patrick Roy.
Another part of the '85 winner was a 23-year-old defenceman named Michel Therrien
* Photo - Fonds Frederick Zakaib, La Société d'Histoire de Sherbrooke
1985 Calder Cup Champions
(en français)
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Post by folatre on Apr 2, 2023 17:56:57 GMT -5
Nice work, Dis. Cool photos all around.
Man, classic WHL Skrudland with the Cooperalls.
Savard did a heck of a job in the mid-80s. He nailed a bunch of key picks in the 1983-87 period. And he really created a great winning environment in Sherbrook for guys who graduated to the Habs and subsequently had a huge impact.
I always thought Lemieux was part of that Calder Cup winning group. I had to check Hockey DB to recall that he was not, in all likelihood because Verdun was on a long playoff run and so that ship had sailed.
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Post by seventeen on Apr 2, 2023 23:39:19 GMT -5
Skrudlund had 17 points in 17 playoff games that Calder Cup season. A sign of his playoff talent. One could say the same for Lemieux. That same post season, for Verdun, he put up, in 14 games, 23-17-40 and 38 PIM. Just another day at the office for Claude. He and Momesso were two great 2nd round picks. Sergio was a favourite of mine, but those damn injuries did him in.
I've been seeing tweets from Habfans (a few), contemplating the surplus of LHD's and suggesting Matheson and Xhekaj as trade bait. I just shake my head. You have a guy like Xhekaj, who brings something no other Hab D prospect does and you want to get rid of him. Especially since he has some real hockey skills as well. Then you add in the character, the size, the intensity, the intelligence and desire to get better. Twitter....sheesh.
It is a fact of life that not all prospects succeed. Let's at least wait until we see who does before making any decisions.
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Post by habsorbed on Apr 3, 2023 1:08:44 GMT -5
Skrudlund had 17 points in 17 playoff games that Calder Cup season. A sign of his playoff talent. One could say the same for Lemieux. That same post season, for Verdun, he put up, in 14 games, 23-17-40 and 38 PIM. Just another day at the office for Claude. He and Momesso were two great 2nd round picks. Sergio was a favourite of mine, but those damn injuries did him in. I've been seeing tweets from Habfans (a few), contemplating the surplus of LHD's and suggesting Matheson and Xhekaj as trade bait. I just shake my head. You have a guy like Xhekaj, who brings something no other Hab D prospect does and you want to get rid of him. Especially since he has some real hockey skills as well. Then you add in the character, the size, the intensity, the intelligence and desire to get better. Twitter....sheesh. It is a fact of life that not all prospects succeed. Let's at least wait until we see who does before making any decisions. I agree that Xman is a unique player and one that should be embraced. The other D prospects bring the same tangibles as one another and we hope they will be top 4 if not top 2. It's anyone's guess as to who of Barron, Harris, or Guhle will succeed. My money, like most, is on Guhle, and then Barron, and then Harris. but I have little doubt that Xman will her valuable to the team, even if a bottom 6. But I see him being as a top 4 who can also be used on the PP and PK. |
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Post by jkr on Apr 3, 2023 6:52:20 GMT -5
How often gave we lamented the fact that the team lacks toughness. There's no deterrent. Now that the team has that guy, people want to trade him?
I know its early in his career but it looks like he can play & be a deterrent, a rare combo. What you want is Tom Wilson, not Ryan Reaves.
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Post by Willie Dog on Apr 3, 2023 7:32:38 GMT -5
How often gave we lamented the fact that the team lacks toughness. There's no deterrent. Now that the team has that guy, people want to trade him? I know its early in his career but it looks like he can play & be a deterrent, a rare combo. What you want is Tom Wilson, not Ryan Reaves. If you watch Arber, you see he has the tools, other than his toughness, he has vision, a very good first pass, he skates the puck out as opposed to dumping it out, for a big guy he moves well, will move people from the front of the net and an active stick... Not sure why people want to move him... for the magic beans that are PLD or someone else? |
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Post by NWTHabsFan on Apr 3, 2023 11:43:34 GMT -5
Here we go.
Not sure if they will have enough healthy forwards.
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Post by seventeen on Apr 3, 2023 14:14:56 GMT -5
Lots of good comments above re Xhekaj. It does raise the fact that we are going to be somewhat overloaded on LHD, however. I don't say that as a bad thing. The candidates for that LHD are Guhle , Xhekaj (locks) and Matheson, Harris, Hutson, Engstrom and Struble. That's a lot of quality and depth at that position. Enough that one might consider testing if any of them can play RHD.
At RHD, there are only Barron and Mailloux. Naturally, we might draft one this year, but defensemen take time to develop, so the more obvious answer is that one or more of the LHD's are packaged to trade for an RHD. Barron is improving, but we have no idea how Mailloux may turn out and if his hockey IQ doesn't improve, he ain't making the roster. Much better if guys like Harris or Engstrom can play their off side. Good skaters with good IQ's can manage it.
Regardless, I can see some roster changes coming on D.
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Post by Disgruntled70sHab on Apr 4, 2023 11:51:56 GMT -5
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Post by Willie Dog on Apr 4, 2023 15:20:08 GMT -5
CoreyWide are a very scary pairing... but then again so are Eddy and kova...
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Post by seventeen on Apr 4, 2023 16:48:03 GMT -5
With due respect to Jake Evans...having him, Drouin and Tierney as your centres after the first line is kinda awful. Has our centre line ever been worse? Even the worst of the Houle years weren't this bad, and yet it's not anyone's fault (perhaps). Not that I'm disappointed. Could we play our EBUG in goal?
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Post by Willie Dog on Apr 4, 2023 17:10:27 GMT -5
With due respect to Jake Evans...having him, Drouin and Tierney as your centres after the first line is kinda awful. Has our centre line ever been worse? Even the worst of the Houle years weren't this bad, and yet it's not anyone's fault (perhaps). Not that I'm disappointed. Could we play our EBUG in goal? He would win... we don't want that |
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Post by drkcloud on Apr 4, 2023 18:16:24 GMT -5
Primeau let's the first shot by him
Why does he seem to duck out of the way on every hard high shot..kinda your job not to do that
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Post by drkcloud on Apr 4, 2023 18:22:19 GMT -5
Primeau is not a big league goalie. He looks so intimidated out there
2 zip Wings
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Post by NWTHabsFan on Apr 4, 2023 19:02:28 GMT -5
Primeau is not a big league goalie. He looks so intimidated out there 2 zip Wings Yeah, I still question if he has the mental toughness to make the jump. Nothing has said so yet; however, he is still young. Right now, he is a bit like the blue jerseys in terms of helping the tank season. That’s okay this year, but you have to wonder long term. He will have to clear waivers next year, so it will be interesting to see how that plays out. |
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Post by folatre on Apr 4, 2023 19:04:55 GMT -5
Hopefully Primeau can hang tough in there tonight. The collection of skaters in front of him is shambolic. And he was actually really good in the loss at Philadelphia last week.
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Post by jkr on Apr 4, 2023 19:35:09 GMT -5
I've never expected much from Primeau. He was pick 199 and his numbers just dont jump out at me. He's going to be 24 in a few months. Maybe this is his level.
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Post by folatre on Apr 4, 2023 20:30:37 GMT -5
Wow, that is unwatchable but not surprising in the slightest.
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Post by PTH on Apr 5, 2023 1:29:09 GMT -5
Wow, that is unwatchable but not surprising in the slightest. At 3 or 4-0 I started fast-forwarding and just stopping for goals and PPs. This roster is horrible. Suzuki was fairly invisible, but tried. Matheson, Edmundson are NHLers, though Edmundston is struggling at times. Evans, Gallagher, Hoffman, Armia can play in this league, but not large roles. Ylonen is ok but can't carry anything. Kovacevic is the same on D. Farrell is just a kid. Barron isn't far ahead of him. Same for Primeau. Tierney, Gurianov, Drouin, Pezzetta... we need to upgrade all. Badly. Schuneman, Wideman, Pitlick are 13th forward, 7th-D level. 9 actual NHLers, 2 of whom are still fairly raw, and 3 of whom wouldn't be sure to stay in the NHL if it weren't for their contracts. 3 raw kids 3 replacement level. 4 wastes of spaces. Backup goalie who doesn't play. Of course this will be unwatchable. |
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Post by seventeen on Apr 5, 2023 13:02:14 GMT -5
I've never expected much from Primeau. He was pick 199 and his numbers just dont jump out at me. He's going to be 24 in a few months. Maybe this is his level. Jaroslav Halak - #271 in 2003. Dominik Hasek - # 199 in 1983 For goalies, where you’re picked is meaningless. But my hopes for Primeau have fallen a lot. |
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