|
|
Post by drkcloud on Apr 13, 2023 20:40:12 GMT -5
Happy Drouin Freedom Day!
Hoping for some big changes next year
|
|
|
|
Post by Willie Dog on Apr 13, 2023 20:40:43 GMT -5
And of course, with the goalie pulled, 5 on 4... droopy couldn't keep the puck in... a fitting way to end his time with the Habs... good riddance,
|
|
|
|
Post by seventeen on Apr 13, 2023 21:36:56 GMT -5
Thank god we lost. Arizona down 3-1 to Vancouver in the first period.
|
|
|
|
Post by Disgruntled70sHab on Apr 13, 2023 21:45:17 GMT -5
|
|
|
|
Post by Disgruntled70sHab on Apr 13, 2023 21:48:59 GMT -5
|
|
|
|
Post by PTH on Apr 14, 2023 1:37:22 GMT -5
Why is Montembeault playing tonight? If it was St. Louis' call, bad decision. If it was Allen's direct/indirect call, kind of troubling, because what does that say about where his game/confidence has been the last two months? Because Allen is hurt, they dressed him hurt to be able to leave Primeau in Laval in the hope they make the AHL playoffs. |
|
|
|
Post by jkr on Apr 14, 2023 6:54:37 GMT -5
What would they have done if Montembault was injured & could not continue?
Go to an ebug? Put in Allen anyway?
|
|
|
|
Post by Boston_Habs on Apr 14, 2023 9:07:57 GMT -5
Thank God that's over. The tank is always more fun at the beginning of the year than the end.
|
|
|
|
Post by Tankdriver on Apr 14, 2023 9:48:42 GMT -5
I am pleasently surprised with this years teams performance. Yes, we finished low in the standings, but this team competed more evenings than not. We had a crap load of injuries and I can't recall the team ever using that as an excuse. Going in, I knew Anaheim, Chicago, San Jose were blatantly tanking and realized that this team would do better than them. So I am hoping the hockey gods are going to reward those that tried. If we don't get Bedard, it's not the end of the world, but man it would make it more exciting! In my original timeline, last year and this years were tank years, with 2024 a development year, 2025 in the mix for a playoff spot and 2026 as a true contender. Can we speed that up a year? Possibly, but I would prefer we build the foundation correctly this time and not rush the process and build something shaky.
|
|
|
|
Post by seventeen on Apr 14, 2023 13:58:25 GMT -5
Bedard would be awesome of course, but if we can get some lotter balls to drop our way and pick 2nd or 3rd, Fantilli and Carlsson are 2 elite players who would make our team immensely better. Having Suzuki and Fantilli as our top 2 with Dach on one of their wings and available as a replacement for injuries is a luxury most teams wouldn't have. The Oilers with RNH might be the only one.
Finishing 5th was important, with a 17% chance at first or 2nd pick. We have no chance at 3rd and I'm not sure why. Must be some kind of rule?
|
|
|
|
Post by Boston_Habs on Apr 14, 2023 14:39:07 GMT -5
I'm not as optimistic as others, or at least the talent we have in place is going to need to get A LOT better.
Nick Suzuki is our best forward and was tied for 70th in the league in points with 66. I thought he'd be more productive this year.
For context, there were 10 forwards with >100 points this year, 18 forwards with >90 points, and 30 forwards with >80 points. To be considered an "All Star" level talent (which I think of as being among the top 25-30 forwards in the league), you need to be a PPG player. There are reasons Nick wasn't there this year, losing Caufield, playing with scrubs, but next year anything less than 80 points will be a disappointment.
On defense it's even more depressing, although let's pro-rate Mike Matheson over 82 games and say he's a 50+ point guy. There were 8 dmen this year with >70 points and 12 dmen with >60 points. Again, my "All Star" standard for dmen is to be among the top 16-20 dmen in the league, although that's not just point getters. I like Matheson, Guhle, Harris, Barron, Xhekaj and Lane Hutson down the road but I'm not sure I love any of them yet.
Lots of decent pieces and prospects in the pool, but we've seen this movie before. Going from bad to good is the easy part. You can do that with some decent depth/balance up and down the lineup and a good goalie. Going from good to great requires ++ level talent at multiple positions. We don't have enough yet and what we do have is still TBD.
|
|
|
|
Post by PTH on Apr 14, 2023 14:43:15 GMT -5
Bedard would be awesome of course, but if we can get some lotter balls to drop our way and pick 2nd or 3rd, Fantilli and Carlsson are 2 elite players who would make our team immensely better. Having Suzuki and Fantilli as our top 2 with Dach on one of their wings and available as a replacement for injuries is a luxury most teams wouldn't have. The Oilers with RNH might be the only one. Finishing 5th was important, with a 17% chance at first or 2nd pick. We have no chance at 3rd and I'm not sure why. Must be some kind of rule? The lottery works through 2 draws. Whoever wins the first draw gets 1st overall, or gets moved up 10 slots if they are #12 or later. The second draw gives whoever gets it #2 overall, or gets moved up 10 slots if they are #13 or later. So, from #5, we can win #1, or someone else wins #1 and we can win #2. If one or two teams picking later win, we can drop down to 6 or 7. We're picking 1, 2, 5, 6 or 7. |
|
|
|
Post by habsorbed on Apr 14, 2023 16:56:00 GMT -5
Bedard would be awesome of course, but if we can get some lotter balls to drop our way and pick 2nd or 3rd, Fantilli and Carlsson are 2 elite players who would make our team immensely better. Having Suzuki and Fantilli as our top 2 with Dach on one of their wings and available as a replacement for injuries is a luxury most teams wouldn't have. The Oilers with RNH might be the only one. Finishing 5th was important, with a 17% chance at first or 2nd pick. We have no chance at 3rd and I'm not sure why. Must be some kind of rule? The lottery works through 2 draws. Whoever wins the first draw gets 1st overall, or gets moved up 10 slots if they are #12 or later. The second draw gives whoever gets it #2 overall, or gets moved up 10 slots if they are #13 or later. So, from #5, we can win #1, or someone else wins #1 and we can win #2. If one or two teams picking later win, we can drop down to 6 or 7. We're picking 1, 2, 5, 6 or 7. And we can add to that Fla's 15th overall ,assuming they do noting in the playoffs. When was the last time we had 2 picks in top 15, with one likely being in top 5? |
|
|
|
Post by Andrew on Apr 14, 2023 17:55:00 GMT -5
According to NHL Tankathon here are our odds of picking at each spot 1-7. So about a 17% chance of moving up and 58% chance of moving down. | Pick 1 | Pick 2 | Pick 3 | Pick 4 | Pick 5 | Pick 6 | Pick 7 | | 8.5% | 8.8% | N/A | N/A | 24.5% | 44.2% | 13.9 |
|
|
|
|
Post by PTH on Apr 14, 2023 21:14:10 GMT -5
The lottery works through 2 draws. Whoever wins the first draw gets 1st overall, or gets moved up 10 slots if they are #12 or later. The second draw gives whoever gets it #2 overall, or gets moved up 10 slots if they are #13 or later. So, from #5, we can win #1, or someone else wins #1 and we can win #2. If one or two teams picking later win, we can drop down to 6 or 7. We're picking 1, 2, 5, 6 or 7. And we can add to that Fla's 15th overall ,assuming they do noting in the playoffs. When was the last time we had 2 picks in top 15, with one likely being in top 5? Haven't checked, but I'd guess 1984 with Petr Svoboda and Shayne Corson as our top 2 picks. EDIT: Yay ! I was right, though 2000 with 13 and 16 (Hossa and Hainsey) and 1985 with 12 and 16 (José Charbonneau and Tom Chorske) were close. |
|
|
|
Post by habsorbed on Apr 15, 2023 1:35:54 GMT -5
And we can add to that Fla's 15th overall ,assuming they do noting in the playoffs. When was the last time we had 2 picks in top 15, with one likely being in top 5? Haven't checked, but I'd guess 1984 with Petr Svoboda and Shayne Corson as our top 2 picks. EDIT: Yay ! I was right, though 2000 with 13 and 16 (Hossa and Hainsey) and 1985 with 12 and 16 (José Charbonneau and Tom Chorske) were close. Wow! PTH you're opening some old wounds. I can live with Corson and Svoboda. But Hossa+Haisey, or Charbonneau+Chorske would be complete busts. I played on a team with Charbo in a tournament a few years after his NHL career was over and we were all wanting to play on his line so we moved the lines every period. I set him up for a beauty - gave him the puck in our zone and he went coast to coast: primary assist.  Anyway, HuGo better do better this draft! I don't want to be setting up some failed Habs draft choice a few years from now  |
|
|
|
Post by Skilly on Apr 15, 2023 8:22:08 GMT -5
The lottery works through 2 draws. Whoever wins the first draw gets 1st overall, or gets moved up 10 slots if they are #12 or later. The second draw gives whoever gets it #2 overall, or gets moved up 10 slots if they are #13 or later. So, from #5, we can win #1, or someone else wins #1 and we can win #2. If one or two teams picking later win, we can drop down to 6 or 7. We're picking 1, 2, 5, 6 or 7. And we can add to that Fla's 15th overall ,assuming they do noting in the playoffs. When was the last time we had 2 picks in top 15, with one likely being in top 5? If Florida loses in the first round that pick will be #17 |
|
|
|
Post by seventeen on Apr 15, 2023 13:26:06 GMT -5
And we can add to that Fla's 15th overall ,assuming they do noting in the playoffs. When was the last time we had 2 picks in top 15, with one likely being in top 5? If Florida loses in the first round that pick will be #17 #17 huh? I should have seen that coming. |
|
|
|
Post by habsorbed on Apr 15, 2023 13:52:42 GMT -5
If Florida loses in the first round that pick will be #17 #17 huh? I should have seen that coming. Ya, I forgot about playoff teams pick after the 16 that miss playoffs even if playoff team has fewer points. Fla would have to win two playoff series for their draft position to change. 17 better be lucky or we'll be rounding up a posse. |
|
:quality(70)/cloudfront-us-east-1.images.arcpublishing.com/archetype/6F6VF25GCFF2HFJCOITRJSGNPE.jpg)
