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Post by seventeen on May 7, 2023 14:32:11 GMT -5
I haven't run the simulator a single time. There's only one time it really matters....tomorrow. But I have all my good luck charms out.
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Post by Cranky on May 7, 2023 14:41:17 GMT -5
How do you keep fans in bottom dwellers interested when the real teams fight it out for a cup? You create a BS system that gives fans hope for a month at the gold ring.
Bottom 5 draft with 5.4.3.2.1 balls in a pot. After 1st and second, teams stay their previous overall spot. Obviously the very bottom team has the highest probability or at the very worst, 3rd overall. Habs stay at 5th if they fail to grab 1st or 2nd.
The odds are against us so don't get your hopes too high. Expect 6th and don't threaten the hamster...
BTW the odds of first overall is the number of balls devided by how many you have. Habs at 5th would have 1 in 15 for 1st. Assuming the bottom dweller takes first then then for 2nd it would be 1 in 10 for that. The bottom dweller would have 5 for 15. The system gives the second worst a decent chance.
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Post by seventeen on May 7, 2023 19:17:17 GMT -5
The whole reason for the loser point system is that it fools fans into thinking their team is close to making the playoffs when really they have no chance. Instead of that realization hitting in January, it takes until March before they realize they have made up 3 points after 3 months and how the heck did that happen? They were so close. Only 7 points behind and it was like they were running in sand. Spoiler- they were running in sand...the loser point sand. In those 3 months, though, they bought a lot of merch and took in games and bought some healthy hot dogs.
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Post by folatre on May 7, 2023 19:52:53 GMT -5
I hate the loser point, always have. And for that matter I have never warmed up to the other Bettman gimmicks (3v3 and shootouts).
Roll back the phony point inflation with all these games where three points are handed out. It will never happen, but I would throw the NHLPA a bone somewhere and get them to okay 10 minute OT, 4v4, no loser point for the OT loser, and if no one loses then both teams get on the bus with one point.
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Post by Skilly on May 8, 2023 11:14:30 GMT -5
It should be noted that the NHL lottery draft does not select a team. It’s actually the most confusing thing I’ve ever read. And in my opinion, the actual balls being drawn should be televised.
The way I understand the lottery is that the machine holds 14 balls (well it did prior to expansion of Seattle). The number of balls may be different now
Each ball is numbered 1-14. Four balls are drawn. Each possible scenario is listed with this 4 digit number. So , for example, 7-2-11-3 is selected from all combos listed as to who wins 1st overall
Then the balls are put back in and they are drawn again for 2nd overall. If the number one team is selected again, they keep drawing until they get a unique second winner. Then the rest are seeded based on that result
Personally I’d like to see a machine with 1000 balls and you just pull two balls from it
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Post by seventeen on May 8, 2023 12:31:37 GMT -5
There's a quip about balls just dying to be written down. Something we'd all get a kick out of.
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Post by Tankdriver on May 8, 2023 13:08:55 GMT -5
Maybe this is from watching Major League this weekend, but I feel like someone has to go out there and sacrifice a chicken
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Post by seventeen on May 8, 2023 14:00:16 GMT -5
Maybe this is from watching Major League this weekend, but I feel like someone has to go out there and sacrifice a chicken we need a lot of luck. An ostrich? |
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Post by Tankdriver on May 8, 2023 17:28:12 GMT -5
You get it, I'll hack it.
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Post by Willie Dog on May 8, 2023 17:52:44 GMT -5
It would kill Leaf fans if we got the 1st pick... lol
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Post by Tankdriver on May 8, 2023 19:19:42 GMT -5
Either Chi or Anaheim...was hoping Columbus if not Montréal
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Post by jkr on May 8, 2023 19:28:08 GMT -5
Chicago wins the lottery.
Habs stay st 5.
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Post by Disgruntled70sHab on May 11, 2023 17:44:00 GMT -5
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Draft 2023
May 12, 2023 16:49:36 GMT -5
via mobile
Post by NWTHabsFan on May 12, 2023 16:49:36 GMT -5
So, if I have this correctly. Basu is not a fan of them taking Michkov, he mentions the trade up option on his podcast, D’Amico repeats it, and now this is trending as “news”. There is going to be tons of stuff flying around about the Habs between now and draft night. This is clickbait heaven for writers.
And Dis, I am not shooting the messenger here, just relaying that lots of beat writers and bloggers are already waxing poetic about what the Habs should do and should not do. Feels like last year all over again.
Fun times.
p.s. I can see Ye Old Orchard pub from the window of my hotel room. Guess which rink I am very close to?
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Post by seventeen on May 12, 2023 17:16:42 GMT -5
So, if I have this correctly. Basu is not a fan of them taking Michkov, he mentions the trade up option on his podcast, D’Amico repeats it, and now this is trending as “news”. There is going to be tons of stuff flying around about the Habs between now and draft night. This is clickbait heaven for writers. And Dis, I am not shooting the messenger here, just relaying that lots of beat writers and bloggers are already waxing poetic about what the Habs should do and should not do. Feels like last year all over again. Fun times. p.s. I can see Ye Old Orchard pub from the window of my hotel room. Guess which rink I am very close to? Yup, and Brian Wilde is all over the BIG is better take. I don't think HuGo are the kind to vary their direction. I can't recall all 3 characteristics Hughes mentioned at a presser, but one was skill and the third was compete level. I didn't see size in there and I didn't see "Current contract" in there either. You don't get ahead by playing it safe and settling (that's exactly what it is) for a player who is by consensus at the next lower level. Bergevin played it safe for 10 freaking years and look how that ended up. It does indeed look like Basu is on the ABM badwagon (Anyone But Michkov). |
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Post by jkr on May 13, 2023 10:26:00 GMT -5
I don't get the trade down talk. They are picking at #5 in a very deep draft and these guys say - go for quantity, not quality. Reminds me of a mod that posted as Doc Holiday. He used to remind us of the difference between row boats and battleships.
I'll take one battleship over 2 or 3 row boats.
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Draft 2023
May 13, 2023 13:21:48 GMT -5
via mobile
Post by Willie Dog on May 13, 2023 13:21:48 GMT -5
I don't get the trade down talk. They are picking at #5 in a very deep draft and these guys say - go for quantity, not quality. Reminds me of a mod that posted as Doc Holiday. He used to remind us of the difference between row boats and battleships. I'll take one battleship over 2 or 3 row boats. I agree... since Bobrov is familiar with Michov and the team he's with and his dad works for that team, he may have insight that HuGo will use... if they dont draft Michov, there is a reason... then you trade down for a Dach type ++. We need a high end right winger... we have CC and Slaf on the left plus a whole ton of left shot projects... |
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Post by seventeen on May 13, 2023 13:29:29 GMT -5
I don't get the trade down talk. They are picking at #5 in a very deep draft and these guys say - go for quantity, not quality. Reminds me of a mod that posted as Doc Holiday. He used to remind us of the difference between row boats and battleships. I'll take one battleship over 2 or 3 row boats. I agree... since Bobrov is familiar with Michov and the team he's with and his dad works for that team, he may have insight that HuGo will use... if they dont draft Michov, there is a reason... then you trade down for a Dach type ++. We need a high end right winger... we have CC and Slaf on the left plus a whole ton of left shot projects... Tough choices after Michkov, though. My preference would be Leonard, but Reinbacher's there and Moore and Benson and (No) Dvorsky and etc. etc. That's an indication in itself. When you're worried about taking a guy and the remaining choices are like a Swedish smorgasbord, maybe you should take the one guy. |
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Post by folatre on May 13, 2023 16:42:48 GMT -5
I have no idea if management sees separation between the kids 6-9 or 10 on their board. If they do, then maybe it makes sense to stay at #5 even if Michkov is not the pick. But if the projected long-term impact of Benson, Leonard, Reinbacher, Dvorsky seem almost indistinguishable then trading down would not be crazy at all if Washington or Detroit, for example, are super determined to get the Russian.
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Post by Cranky on May 13, 2023 17:10:19 GMT -5
Washington is devoid of anything called "prospects".
Detroit is a different matter. Tons of high quality picks to trade with. Seider even up or 9th and Hronek.
If we land up with Michkov and they are willing, lots of possibilities.
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Post by jkr on May 15, 2023 4:21:22 GMT -5
Washington is devoid of anything called "prospects". Detroit is a different matter. Tons of high quality picks to trade with. Seider even up or 9th and Hronek. If we land up with Michkov and they are willing, lots of possibilities. Hronek was traded to Vancouver near the deadline. |
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Post by Willie Dog on Jun 2, 2023 13:56:32 GMT -5
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Draft 2023
Jun 15, 2023 12:31:55 GMT -5
via mobile
Post by Habs_fan_in_LA on Jun 15, 2023 12:31:55 GMT -5
I agree... since Bobrov is familiar with Michov and the team he's with and his dad works for that team, he may have insight that HuGo will use... if they dont draft Michov, there is a reason... then you trade down for a Dach type ++. We need a high end right winger... we have CC and Slaf on the left plus a whole ton of left shot projects... Tough choices after Michkov, though. My preference would be Leonard, but Reinbacher's there and Moore and Benson and (No) Dvorsky and etc. etc. That's an indication in itself. When you're worried about taking a guy and the remaining choices are like a Swedish smorgasbord, maybe you should take the one guy. Michkov will be drafted….. by the Russian Army according to a reliable source. Everyone repeat this and maybe he will be available at 5 for us. |
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Draft 2023
Jun 15, 2023 15:46:09 GMT -5
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Post by Willie Dog on Jun 15, 2023 15:46:09 GMT -5
Tough choices after Michkov, though. My preference would be Leonard, but Reinbacher's there and Moore and Benson and (No) Dvorsky and etc. etc. That's an indication in itself. When you're worried about taking a guy and the remaining choices are like a Swedish smorgasbord, maybe you should take the one guy. Michkov will be drafted….. by the Russian Army according to a reliable source. Everyone repeat this and maybe he will be available at 5 for us. Lol... let's hope so |
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Post by Disgruntled70sHab on Jun 28, 2023 18:08:01 GMT -5
I'll watch for it ...
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Post by Tankdriver on Jun 29, 2023 10:46:20 GMT -5
Are we not watching the rest of the draft?
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