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Post by drkcloud on May 8, 2023 19:23:59 GMT -5
Just in time for Kane and Toews leaving... the league stepped in
And if ever there was an undeserving organization
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Post by Boston_Habs on May 8, 2023 19:24:07 GMT -5
Great market for him.
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Post by Skilly on May 8, 2023 19:25:02 GMT -5
You can’t tell me the draft isn’t rigged
They go to commercial with Kevin Weekes saying “The number one pick will go to either Chicago or Anaheim”. They hadn’t revealed Columbus at #3 yet. How’d Weekes know?
They lose Ksne and Toews is on the verge of retirement. This is shades of Crosby when Mario retired
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Post by NWTHabsFan on May 8, 2023 19:26:58 GMT -5
Chicago’s blatant tank was enough for the league to give them Bedard. They do not deserve him after their crappy fire sale “strategy”.
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Post by Willie Dog on May 8, 2023 19:28:12 GMT -5
Chicago moved up 2 spots from 3rd to 1st... it's a fix... Chicago is a big US market.. all about TV revenue
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Post by CentreHice on May 8, 2023 19:31:33 GMT -5
You can’t tell me the draft isn’t rigged They go to commercial with Kevin Weekes saying “The number one pick will go to either Chicago or Anaheim”. They hadn’t revealed Columbus at #3 yet. How’d Weekes know? They lose Ksne and Toews is on the verge of retirement. This is shades of Crosby when Mario retired I had to rewind it. Unless we're missing something, there might just be some 'splainin' to do. After the Montreal pick, Chicago was still in 3rd on the board. After San Jose at #4, Chicago was still at #3. Weekes's exact words--without showing the board...going to commercial.... And there's our first change in the order, with Columbus dropping to 3rd...." |
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Post by folatre on May 8, 2023 19:32:43 GMT -5
It would have been surreal to get a generational talent like Bedard, but at least he setting up shop out West. Chicago is a strong hockey city, but given how their management tore it down to the ground, it is impossible in a single summer for them to put a decent supporting cast around him in year 1 or perhaps even year 2.
I am really pleased that we did not drop down to #6 (odds favored this outcome) or #7. I think Hughes knows that being positioned right there at the pivot point between tiers could allow him to listen to some potentially aggressive offers in the event that the Montreal Canadiens organization is not comfortable with Michkov.
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Post by seventeen on May 8, 2023 19:34:21 GMT -5
Chicago and Arizona were the only 2 I really didn't want... This does feel staged. Pittsburgh needed a star to replace Lemieux and save the franchise. Done Chicago - original 6 team losing Kane snd (soon) Toews. Need a replacement star. Done. Was easily predictable. Columbus the backwater? Anaheim is not a major draw. |
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Post by Tankdriver on May 8, 2023 19:35:16 GMT -5
I would not be surprised to see Columbis select michkov.
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Post by jkr on May 8, 2023 19:35:42 GMT -5
I thought Anaheim with some young guys like Zegras, Terry and Mctavish would have been a good spot for him.
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Post by seventeen on May 8, 2023 19:36:12 GMT -5
You can’t tell me the draft isn’t rigged They go to commercial with Kevin Weekes saying “The number one pick will go to either Chicago or Anaheim”. They hadn’t revealed Columbus at #3 yet. How’d Weekes know? They lose Ksne and Toews is on the verge of retirement. This is shades of Crosby when Mario retired I wondered about that myself. They told Weekes the results ahead of time? |
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Post by seventeen on May 8, 2023 19:40:11 GMT -5
I would not be surprised to see Columbis select michkov. I sure hope so, but they need help earlier than 2026. Gaudreau has a shelf life. I hope the Sharks take Michkov. They’ve got a longer rebuild than we do. Timeline is good for them and a franchise guy may be irresistible Bedard, Fantilli, Smith, Michkov and Carlsson. We’re going to get a hell of a player. |
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Post by folatre on May 8, 2023 19:46:06 GMT -5
Columbus is a franchise that struggles in revenue-wise. And they were one of the American clubs that got whacked by the corporate bankruptcy (Diamond Sports) that held (I am not sure if this is now past tense) the local tv rights to Blue Jackets games. So I would imagine that Kekalainen is under pressure to show that 2022-23 was an injury-driven fiasco and that he can get them back into playoff contention in what could be a weakening Metro division.
Hockey is debatable but I think Columbus avoid Michkov.
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Post by drkcloud on May 8, 2023 19:46:34 GMT -5
I don't want to wait on the Russian and assuming the 1-4 teams don't either, what does that leave us with? Benson? Leonard? Good players but difference makers?
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Post by PTH on May 8, 2023 19:51:00 GMT -5
You can’t tell me the draft isn’t rigged They go to commercial with Kevin Weekes saying “The number one pick will go to either Chicago or Anaheim”. They hadn’t revealed Columbus at #3 yet. How’d Weekes know? They lose Ksne and Toews is on the verge of retirement. This is shades of Crosby when Mario retired I had to rewind it. Unless we're missing something, there might just be some 'splainin' to do. After the Montreal pick, Chicago was still in 3rd on the board. After San Jose at #4, Chicago was still at #3. Weekes's exact words--without showing the board...going to commercial.... And there's our first change in the order, with Columbus dropping to 3rd...."I heard that too and backed up to check I hadn't missed anything. |
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Post by drkcloud on May 8, 2023 19:52:42 GMT -5
I wonder what it would cost to move up 1 or 2 spots
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Post by folatre on May 8, 2023 19:53:51 GMT -5
Michkov is an elite talent. If there is a team already accepting they either do not need him in the short-run and/or a team accepting they are basically not making the playoffs for 2-3 more seasons, then I foresee Hughes taking some calls that will initiative intense discussions and aggressive offers to move up and take the Russian.
By the way, I would not mind if Montreal took Michkov because I think he will be a difference-maker and the timing is not bad for the Habs trajectory toward contender status. But if Molson has already said no and/or Bobrov with his potential to possess some insider intel raises the red flag, then at least sitting there in the five hole will open up plenty of options.
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Post by CentreHice on May 8, 2023 19:58:02 GMT -5
Chicago was rocked (tainted) by that sexual abuse scandal...and a lot of folks lost their jobs...Bowman and Quenneville chief among them.
This clears the way for a fresh, exciting, new narrative. That part is coincidentally convenient, I'd say.
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Post by Boston_Habs on May 8, 2023 19:59:19 GMT -5
We need elite offensive talent. The 3 year wait sucks but what are we really talking about. Even a typical top 5 pick needs 1-2 years before they hit the NHL so it’s really waiting an extra year. I’d just hate to pass on a potential elite talent because we’re too impatient.
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Post by Willie Dog on May 8, 2023 20:00:42 GMT -5
Chicago was rocked (tainted) by that sexual abuse scandal...and a lot of folks lost their jobs...Bowman and Quenneville chief among them. This clears the way for a fresh, exciting, new narrative. That part is coincidentally convenient, I'd say. Absolutely... Bettman 101 |
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Post by Andrew on May 8, 2023 20:03:45 GMT -5
On the Weeks blunder, the draft did happen in advance of the broadcast, and some media were on hand to witness. Still not a good look.
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Post by CentreHice on May 8, 2023 20:06:33 GMT -5
On the Weeks blunder, the draft did happen in advance of the broadcast, and some media were on hand to witness. Still not a good look. Thanks for the explanation. |
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Post by Skilly on May 8, 2023 21:02:48 GMT -5
You can’t tell me the draft isn’t rigged They go to commercial with Kevin Weekes saying “The number one pick will go to either Chicago or Anaheim”. They hadn’t revealed Columbus at #3 yet. How’d Weekes know? They lose Ksne and Toews is on the verge of retirement. This is shades of Crosby when Mario retired I had to rewind it. Unless we're missing something, there might just be some 'splainin' to do. After the Montreal pick, Chicago was still in 3rd on the board. After San Jose at #4, Chicago was still at #3. Weekes's exact words--without showing the board...going to commercial.... And there's our first change in the order, with Columbus dropping to 3rd...."And then continues with "so the first overall will go to either Anaheim or Chicago" ...and you could hear the distinct inflection in his voice when he said Chicago. So Weekes knew the draft results. We are led to believe that it's only the lawyers, Bettman and Daly in the bingo ball room. If Weekes wasn't in there, someone told him. This is why the NHL needs to televise the bingo ball draw. Show the random combos before the balls drop and be transparent. The current process is way too easy to rig |
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Post by CentreHice on May 8, 2023 21:26:34 GMT -5
Good points, Skilly.
Just heard that Anaheim was also #2 in the Crosby lottery.
Doh!
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Post by Habs_fan_in_LA on May 9, 2023 1:57:23 GMT -5
I had to rewind it. Unless we're missing something, there might just be some 'splainin' to do. After the Montreal pick, Chicago was still in 3rd on the board. After San Jose at #4, Chicago was still at #3. Weekes's exact words--without showing the board...going to commercial.... And there's our first change in the order, with Columbus dropping to 3rd...."And then continues with "so the first overall will go to either Anaheim or Chicago" ...and you could hear the distinct inflection in his voice when he said Chicago. So Weekes knew the draft results. We are led to believe that it's only the lawyers, Bettman and Daly in the bingo ball room. If Weekes wasn't in there, someone told him. This is why the NHL needs to televise the bingo ball draw. Show the random combos before the balls drop and be transparent. The current process is way too easy to rig No lawyers or accounting firms. we need Penn and Teller to supervise Fool us. |
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Post by seventeen on May 9, 2023 2:09:08 GMT -5
On the Weeks blunder, the draft did happen in advance of the broadcast, and some media were on hand to witness. Still not a good look. But what did they witness, huh? Sorry I'm so skeptical but with the amount of money involved and the characters involved, it's hard to imagine this draft picking being done in a straightforward, honest manner. You have a lawyer or two and an incompetent farmer running the league (if you don't count any of the influential owners who might be pulling strings). What could go wrong? |
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Post by Skilly on May 9, 2023 11:53:31 GMT -5
The other thing I noticed during the broadcast, was how fast they had those facts about past picks ready. Just looks really poor and sketchy
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Post by seventeen on May 9, 2023 11:57:28 GMT -5
So we have pick #5, which is dangerous. The first 4 picks are likely to leave us with Michkov and a bunch of guys in a second tier. Do we roll the dice on an elite player or play it safe with someone who could be a first liner or top pair defenseman, if they reach their top ceiling, or something lower if they don't? The Best Prospect Available is Michkov, without a doubt, but he carries risks with him, namely an unpredictable, psychopathic, greedy (aren't all dictators greedy?) head of his country who has the power to restrain Michkov.
What does one do? Aside from Michkov, I don't think the Habs take Benson as a lot of mock drafts have them doing. Too small and we already have too many smallish prospects. I can see them taking Leonard (the late riser) or Reinbacher (big RHD with a big shot), or Moore - fast two way centre with skill or trading down a spot or two and still having a shot at one of those guys as well as maybe picking up another first rounder for next year (yes, it costs that much to move up).
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Post by seventeen on May 9, 2023 11:59:06 GMT -5
The other thing I noticed during the broadcast, was how fast they had those facts about past picks ready. Just looks really poor and sketchy That's not surprising, since one can research and prepare ahead of time. I understand the whole thing was taped rather than being live, so they could edit it any number of ways. From a credibility standpoint, the NHL is pathetic. The NBA does it so much better. If it is rigged, then it's almost a necessity that the thing be taped. Too many things can go wrong in a live presentation. |
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Post by Disgruntled70sHab on May 11, 2023 18:09:29 GMT -5
Can you imagine the dialogue and outrage had the Habs won the lottery ...
Cheers.
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