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Post by jkr on Jun 28, 2023 19:07:34 GMT -5
Safe pick is right. No vision, no risk taking.
This team continually blows high 1st rounders , no matter who is in charge,
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Post by Tankdriver on Jun 28, 2023 19:08:47 GMT -5
How many D prospects so we need?
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Post by Willie Dog on Jun 28, 2023 19:09:21 GMT -5
How many D prospects so we need? One more at least... ffs |
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Post by NWTHabsFan on Jun 28, 2023 19:11:02 GMT -5
If Reinbacher is another Moritz, no one will look back. If he is a 2nd pairing guy and Michkov comes over that’s another issue altogether. The criticism will be fierce. This is the key right here. He has vaulted up the charts and needs to keep developing upwards and end up a top pairing RHD to justify a top five pick. The Habs’ brass clearly feel this is the case. Time will tell. A lot like Slafkovsky. They are betting on their future projection and development abilities. Feels a bit more like a “needs” pick more so than a BPA, but that is just little old me. |
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Post by PTH on Jun 28, 2023 19:13:29 GMT -5
Well, Arizona going totally off the board for a d-man probably confirms Hughes' apparent fear that his guy (Reinbacher) would not have been there if he traded down to the #7-9 range. I guess my question is what exactly about Reinbacher screams difference-maker. Feels a bit like 2018, with Arizona going for position first, and that meant trading down was difficult since it meant likely losing your player. |
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Post by PTH on Jun 28, 2023 19:14:40 GMT -5
I'm annoyed at having moved 31 and 37, it means we can't really consider moving into the mid first round.
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Post by CentreHice on Jun 28, 2023 19:15:20 GMT -5
CH, sure, Reinbacher may be the best d-man prospect in the draft (I would say he is), but this draft was stacked with high ceiling offensive difference-makers with Bedard and the next tier (Fantilli, Carlsson, Michkov, and Smith) so taking Reinbacher at #5 seems like an safe though entirely uninspired choice. I hear ya. It appears as if HuGo are content to move forward with the Suzuki-Caufield-Dach-Slaf forward core. Vegas didn't have league-leading scorers. Success can be had if the rest of the architecture is solid. |
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Post by Willie Dog on Jun 28, 2023 19:17:12 GMT -5
CH, sure, Reinbacher may be the best d-man prospect in the draft (I would say he is), but this draft was stacked with high ceiling offensive difference-makers with Bedard and the next tier (Fantilli, Carlsson, Michkov, and Smith) so taking Reinbacher at #5 seems like an safe though entirely uninspired choice. I hear ya. It appears as if HuGo are content to move forward with the Suzuki-Caufield-Dach-Slaf forward core. Vegas didn't have league-leading scorers. Success can be had if the rest of the architecture is solid. They must have figured they got newhook, don't need another forward |
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Post by jkr on Jun 28, 2023 19:17:39 GMT -5
If Reinbacher is another Moritz, no one will look back. If he is a 2nd pairing guy and Michkov comes over that’s another issue altogether. The criticism will be fierce. This is the key right here. He has vaulted up the charts and needs to keep developing upwards and end up a top pairing RHD to justify a top five pick. The Habs’ brass clearly feel this is the case. Time will tell. A lot like Slafkovsky. They are betting on their future projection and development abilities. Feels a bit more like a “needs” pick more so than a BPA, but that is just little old me. Agree. IMO you should always take BPA , especially this high. Can't remember the last time I was excited by one of their 1st rounders. |
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Post by PTH on Jun 28, 2023 19:27:57 GMT -5
I have to remind people, this board had a mild breakdown in 2005 when Price was selected. We just have to wait and see.
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Post by Disgruntled70sHab on Jun 28, 2023 19:29:53 GMT -5
Rienbacher better be the 2nd coming of Larry Robinson I read somewhere that a comparable d-man is Ryan McDonagh ... I really thought they'd take Ryan Leonard ... Cheers. |
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Post by Skilly on Jun 28, 2023 19:32:32 GMT -5
CH, sure, Reinbacher may be the best d-man prospect in the draft (I would say he is), but this draft was stacked with high ceiling offensive difference-makers with Bedard and the next tier (Fantilli, Carlsson, Michkov, and Smith) so taking Reinbacher at #5 seems like an safe though entirely uninspired choice. I hear ya. It appears as if HuGo are content to move forward with the Suzuki-Caufield-Dach-Slaf forward core. Vegas didn't have league-leading scorers. Success can be had if the rest of the architecture is solid. Vegas had 6 players with more than 50 points. Montreal had one Vegas had 12 players with more than 10 goals. Montreal had 7 I say it every year, but it bears repeating … we need offense. We rely way too much on goalies. |
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Post by Tankdriver on Jun 28, 2023 19:32:51 GMT -5
Arizona says screw you to those mock drafts. Do they have lots of scouts in Russia?
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Post by Willie Dog on Jun 28, 2023 19:33:16 GMT -5
I have to remind people, this board had a mild breakdown in 2005 when Price was selected. We just have to wait and see. That's so funny Paul... I remember that, watching the draft happen in downtown ottawa at the Congress Centre |
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Post by Skilly on Jun 28, 2023 19:36:35 GMT -5
I have to remind people, this board had a mild breakdown in 2005 when Price was selected. We just have to wait and see. Yeah, and I still say we didn’t need to draft a goalie that high. Most on here wanted Kopitar (I admittedly did not. But we should have drafted Kopitar) Carey Price - 0 cups Anze Kopitar - 2 cups Jonathan Quick - 2 Cups. Drafted same year, many rounds later |
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Post by Skilly on Jun 28, 2023 19:39:29 GMT -5
Zach Benson doing the George Jefferson walk to the stage
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Post by seventeen on Jun 28, 2023 19:41:59 GMT -5
CH, sure, Reinbacher may be the best d-man prospect in the draft (I would say he is), but this draft was stacked with high ceiling offensive difference-makers with Bedard and the next tier (Fantilli, Carlsson, Michkov, and Smith) so taking Reinbacher at #5 seems like an safe though entirely uninspired choice. I hear ya. It appears as if HuGo are content to move forward with the Suzuki-Caufield-Dach-Slaf forward core. Vegas didn't have league-leading scorers. Success can be had if the rest of the architecture is solid. Vegas is kind of an outlier. In other seasons, Eichel or Stone could be in the top 10 scorers. Vegas won with an expansion pick getting the Smythe and a passell of backup goalies manning the nets. Not something i want to try to duplicate. |
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Post by seventeen on Jun 28, 2023 19:47:43 GMT -5
Arizona says screw you to those mock drafts. Do they have lots of scouts in Russia? I don’t have a handle on Bill Armstrong. He was in charge of scouting for the Blues under his dad. They had a lot of good pick during his tenure. But general managing is different. Wasthe Blues good scouting due to Bill or the other guys employed by St. Louis? |
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Post by Skilly on Jun 28, 2023 19:49:02 GMT -5
Very boring draft so far. No movement , no trades
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Post by drkcloud on Jun 28, 2023 19:49:06 GMT -5
Zach Benson doing the George Jefferson walk to the stage Haha love it. When you're that size you gotta walk with confidence |
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Post by drkcloud on Jun 28, 2023 19:50:52 GMT -5
So boring safe pick fifth overall.
Tomorrow, no pick until the third round. A couple picks in the 4th and 5th. More filler, no killer
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Post by Tankdriver on Jun 28, 2023 19:52:48 GMT -5
Very boring draft so far. No movement , no trades Somewhat agree. Although the 5 through 15 has been all over the place in predictability. I can see day 2 being more active or trades. i'm hoping we can trade away Edmunson for a late first or second round pick with 50% retained. |
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Post by Boston_Habs on Jun 28, 2023 19:56:11 GMT -5
Incredibly disappointing.
We drafted David Savard
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Post by PTH on Jun 28, 2023 19:56:55 GMT -5
I can see day 2 being more active or trades. i'm hoping we can trade away Edmunson for a late first or second round pick with 50% retained. At some point teams will find their top players are gone and become open to trading down... |
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Post by seventeen on Jun 28, 2023 19:59:13 GMT -5
Incredibly disappointing. We drafted David Savard Good analogy. Better skater but just as boring. |
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Post by CentreHice on Jun 28, 2023 19:59:34 GMT -5
I hear ya. It appears as if HuGo are content to move forward with the Suzuki-Caufield-Dach-Slaf forward core. Vegas didn't have league-leading scorers. Success can be had if the rest of the architecture is solid. Vegas had 6 players with more than 50 points. Montreal had one Vegas had 12 players with more than 10 goals. Montreal had 7 I say it every year, but it bears repeating … we need offense. We rely way too much on goalies. No question. We've been over-relying on goalies since the days of Theo. RE: the scoring. Other than Eichel, who played 67 games, the other 5 Knights with over 50 pts. played 73, 76, 78, 81, and 82 games. And, other than Eichel, who is 25, the rest are 28, 29, 31, 31, and 32. Of the Habs top 6 scorers, only Suzuki played 82 games. The others played 46, 48, 58, 67, and 69 games. We were also a younger group...21, 21, 23, 28, 28, 32. Give us a few years of non-outrageous injuries...building accordingly. Can only hope... |
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Post by jkr on Jun 28, 2023 20:02:49 GMT -5
I have to remind people, this board had a mild breakdown in 2005 when Price was selected. We just have to wait and see. The story I heard years later was that Gainey wanted Pouliot but he was gone so Price became the pick. Not sure if its true or just some internet filler. |
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Post by jkr on Jun 28, 2023 20:04:45 GMT -5
Incredibly disappointing. We drafted David Savard That actually made me laugh. Still PO'd though. |
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Post by Skilly on Jun 28, 2023 20:12:30 GMT -5
I have to remind people, this board had a mild breakdown in 2005 when Price was selected. We just have to wait and see. The story I heard years later was that Gainey wanted Pouliot but he was gone so Price became the pick. Not sure if its true or just some internet filler. It’s true Shortly after the draft in 2005 , Gainey was here in St. John’s . He gave a talk to a room of the first 50 people in line about a book he was promoting. I believe he wrote the forward in the book Afterwards he opened the floor to questions. One was why did he draft a goalie with a goalie in the organization that recently won the Hart and Vezina. He said that he had wanted Pouliot , but since he was gone, he deferred to the scouts list. And they had Price the next BPA on their list, so they drafted him |
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Post by Disgruntled70sHab on Jun 28, 2023 20:15:30 GMT -5
If Reinbacher is another Moritz, no one will look back. If he is a 2nd pairing guy and Michkov comes over that’s another issue altogether. The criticism will be fierce. This is the key right here. He has vaulted up the charts and needs to keep developing upwards and end up a top pairing RHD to justify a top five pick. The Habs’ brass clearly feel this is the case. Time will tell. A lot like Slafkovsky. They are betting on their future projection and development abilities. Feels a bit more like a “needs” pick more so than a BPA, but that is just little old me. As an aside, according to Grant McCagg, the two players who impressed the organization the most from the combine, were David Reichenbacher and Ryan Leonard ... regardless, it does feel like they made a "needs" pick, like you said ... I don't know, but maybe they felt that Alex Newhook has the same qualities as Leonard ... read that he's a relentless skater, as well ... Cheers. |
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