Tempe Arizona says no!

[Tankdriver]

So, again, the Coyotes are looking for a new home. The referendum denied their entertainment complex.

www.tsn.ca/nhl/nhl-terribly-disappointed-after-tempe-voters-vote-down-arena-for-arizona-coyotes-1.1961458

[CentreHice]

At least "the people" still have a say.

The metro-Phoenix area doesn't seem to want them (Glendale, now Tempe). I presume they've tried Scottsdale.

Shame they can't work something out with their AHL affiliate--the Tuscon Roadrunners--but the Tuscon Arena's hockey capacity is only 6,521.

What else could be up-the-sleeve to keep them in AZ? The league already kept them afloat for 4 years (2009-13).

Is Quebec City still interested in a team--as if Bettman would want that...

Perhaps waiting to "persuade" big-draw Matthews to come home when his Toronto contract's up after next season?

[Tankdriver]

Lots of whispers of Houston but I am not sure the owner wants to share the arena. Some say yes and some say no. If not, there is Kansas City that has an arena that is NHL ready. Less likely, but for some reason, Atlanta has come up again.

Meanwhile QC City is still dreaming and drooling but won't be chosen.

[jkr]

I cant see any big name FA wanting to go there. The team is a mess & the arena situation us a joke.

If Matthew's cant push the Leafs forward, what could he accomplish with the Coyotes?

[halihab]

Move them to Quebec and stop with the foolishness. How many lives does a team get ? Bettman is useless. Time for some new blood with fresh ideas.

[Willie Dog]

Quebec will only happen if someone with deep pockets wants it... NHL not interested in moving teams, its franchise fees they want.

[seventeen]

The NHL may evolve into something truly awful. As pointed out above, franchise fees are the big attraction. Greed and money are the main players in this. So, extrapolating, as long as someone is willing to pay the big bucks we could have a league with 64 teams in it. Obviously not, because there are only so many Russian oligarchs and even if there were, each time the league expands, the money is being shared among more teams, so each owner gets progressively less after each expansion.

Instead of improving the product and generating revenue that way, owners want their franchises to increase in value so they can peddle it to the next loser. That happens a lot in the stock market. Rather than improving a product and generating more sales, CEO's paint lipstick on their pig, and sell that.

My rant for the day. When someone chooses laziness and a quick buck (Musk), ignore them and wait for them to take the Acme dive.

PS. Anything Gary Betman is unhappy about, thrills me.

[PTH]

Quebec city only has a chance if a move has to happen *fast*, to a city sure to support the team and with an arena ready.

If Bettman has time to find a rich owner is a new market he wants to develop, Quebec city isn't in the running.

[Willie Dog]

May 17, 2023 18:55:49 GMT -5 PTH said:

Quebec city only has a chance if a move has to happen *fast*, to a city sure to support the team and with an arena ready.

If Bettman has time to find a rich owner is a new market he wants to develop, Quebec city isn't in the running.

And that is just sad

[halihab]

May 17, 2023 19:04:33 GMT -5 Willie Dog said:

May 17, 2023 18:55:49 GMT -5 PTH said:

Quebec city only has a chance if a move has to happen *fast*, to a city sure to support the team and with an arena ready.

If Bettman has time to find a rich owner is a new market he wants to develop, Quebec city isn't in the running.

And that is just sad

That's exactly my point. Get rid of him. 30 plus years is long enough.

[folatre]

I do not care for Bettman. Though from an owners' perspective Bettman has done the job because of his hard cap war and victory, various rounds of expansion windfalls, and broadcasting rights growing well in excess of inflation.

But, man, the Coyotes are simply a shambolic franchise. Despite the league propping them up for years/decades, Arizona's revenue is plummeting to new lows, they are playing in a little NCAA barn, their own community just gave them a resounding eff you, and obviously ownership is far too wobbly to float a massive development district with private money. The franchise is a joke and without Bettman's unhealthy obsession with the Arizona market, it would have folded/relocated many years ago.

[Willie Dog]

May 17, 2023 20:44:17 GMT -5 folatre said:

I do not care for Bettman. Though from an owners' perspective Bettman has done the job because of his hard cap war and victory, various rounds of expansion windfalls, and broadcasting rights growing well in excess of inflation.

But, man, the Coyotes are simply a shambolic franchise. Despite the league propping them up for years/decades, Arizona's revenue is plummeting to new lows, they are playing in a little NCAA barn, their own community just gave them a resounding eff you, and obviously ownership is far too wobbly to float a massive development district with private money. The franchise is a joke and without Bettman's unhealthy obsession with the Arizona market, it would have folded/relocated many years ago.

It's sad that Canadian teams are keeping the yotes afloat

[folatre]

For sure, aside from Ottawa which has been in the bottom third of revenue generation for many seasons now, the Canadian clubs are certainly among the major contributors to Bettman's quiet (i.e. let's not talk about it and hopefully discourage or cajole media from talking about it) policy of revenue sharing. For me I can hold my nose and accept the 'bone' for small market clubs is the hard cap, which Bettman won and will never relent on; but the additional bone via revenue sharing is a gross violation of even watered-down free-enterprise norms.

[seventeen]

May 17, 2023 19:17:32 GMT -5 halihab said:

May 17, 2023 19:04:33 GMT -5 Willie Dog said:

And that is just sad

That's exactly my point. Get rid of him. 30 plus years is long enough.

Know any good Godfathers ready to make him an offer he can't refuse?