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Post by seventeen on Jun 6, 2023 14:22:46 GMT -5
It's a 3 way deal involving LA, and it's not all laid out yet. Kings are send the Flyers Cal Petersen and Sean Walker and Columbus is sending first and second round picks to Philly. Philly gets Petersen and Walker and Columbus 1st and second round picks (don't know which year yet) and gives up Provorov Columbus loses and first and second, gets Provorov (Man, that better not be the first rounder this year. They'd be nuts) LA loses Walker and Petersen, retains some of Provorov's salary and gets?  (besides CAP relief) Ok, details on NHL.com Philly traded to LA, Provorov and Hayden Hodgson for Cal Peterson, Sean Walker, Helge Grans and a 2024 second round pick. Flyers also traded Kevin Connauton to Columbus for Blue Jackets' first pick in..... Ah forget it. I think Colon Campbell wrote up this press release. He has Flyers trading Kevin Connauton to the Blue Jackets for LA's first round pick in 2023 but doesn't explain how Columbus got LA's first round pick in the first place. I'd better wait till Friedge explains it. |
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Post by folatre on Jun 6, 2023 18:47:49 GMT -5
Weird trade on the surface, but I suppose it speaks to where each of the respective teams is at respectively.
Columbus, I believe, is under pressure to make the playoffs this season. They are a low-revenue team where the ownership family feels like they have made some big contract commitments (Werenski, Laine, Gaudreau) and have nothing to show for it. So adding a top four d-man (albeit one who has not played well the last 2-3 seasons) at an affordable price looks like a GM desperate to win and hoping a change of scenery gets Provorov going again. I don't hate this trade for the Blue Jackets because they gave up so little, but I have a feeling Columbus' playoff chances depend more on the emergence of goals up front and Merzlikins playing like a quality starter more than it depends on the acquisition of Provorov.
Philadelphia is rebuilding, clearly. And this trade is good business for them given that reality. I commend Danny Briere for scooping up a first (22nd overall), Blue Jackets second rounder next season, and a 'B' prospect (Grans) for taking a couple of cap dumps (Peterson and Walker).
Los Angeles seems like the team that overpaid in this whole equation. They give up their 2023 first rounder and Grans in order to execute a net salary dump of $5 million next season and $3 million in 2024-25. Meh, maybe Rob Blake is clearing space to sign Korpisalo long-term or maybe to rock the world with a Auston Matthews trade. **Edit: I misunderstood something initially. I thought the first rounder that Philly gets was the Kings pick at #22; it appears that pick actually belonged to Columbus because of the Gavrikov trade. So basically this makes more sense and Blake actually cleared some cap without giving up much of anything.
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Post by PTH on Jun 6, 2023 20:04:19 GMT -5
This is one of those trades where it needs to be spelled out for each team what they give and what they get, it's not very intuitive.
Seems like essentially, Columbus wanted to replace Gavrikov, LA wanted to be able to sign him, and Philly gets draft picks to take on useless cap.
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I really hate how Florida's success makes me want to trade just about anyone to have a mid-first round pick, whereas we should've had pick 17 and that would be enough to satisfy me.... seeing a 22nd overall getting moved makes me wish we'd gotten it...
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Post by Tankdriver on Jun 6, 2023 21:14:38 GMT -5
This is one of those trades where it needs to be spelled out for each team what they give and what they get, it's not very intuitive. Seems like essentially, Columbus wanted to replace Gavrikov, LA wanted to be able to sign him, and Philly gets draft picks to take on useless cap. --- I really hate how Florida's success makes me want to trade just about anyone to have a mid-first round pick, whereas we should've had pick 17 and that would be enough to satisfy me.... seeing a 22nd overall getting moved makes me wish we'd gotten it... Well I think St Louis has 3 first round picks. Maybe something can happen there. |
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Post by PTH on Jun 6, 2023 23:28:57 GMT -5
This is one of those trades where it needs to be spelled out for each team what they give and what they get, it's not very intuitive. Seems like essentially, Columbus wanted to replace Gavrikov, LA wanted to be able to sign him, and Philly gets draft picks to take on useless cap. --- I really hate how Florida's success makes me want to trade just about anyone to have a mid-first round pick, whereas we should've had pick 17 and that would be enough to satisfy me.... seeing a 22nd overall getting moved makes me wish we'd gotten it... Well I think St Louis has 3 first round picks. Maybe something can happen there. I think our only reasonable hope of adding a 1st without trading down from #5 is by moving Anderson. STL might be a fit, I had hopes a team like Pittsburgh might want him, say for Granlund and their 1st, on draft day if no one they *deeply* love is still on the board... EDIT: With Treliving in Toronto, and he apparently liked Anderson when he was in Calgary, and with Hughes and him having made deals before, I wonder if Anderson to Toronto might make sense. The Bruins' first rounder would be attractive, just gotta find a way to make the cap work. |
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Post by Tankdriver on Jun 7, 2023 8:54:43 GMT -5
You could take on Murray's contract and then buy him out for that first rounder and a toss in from our side.
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Post by PTH on Jun 7, 2023 9:03:45 GMT -5
You could take on Murray's contract and then buy him out for that first rounder and a toss in from our side. I'd rather just take the hit for the season and bury him in the minors, and I'm not sure he'd actually fetch a first.... but that's the kind of calls I have to assume Hughes is making right now, figuring out how to weaponize our cap space. |
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Post by NWTHabsFan on Jun 7, 2023 10:36:26 GMT -5
Very true.
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Post by seventeen on Jun 7, 2023 13:10:34 GMT -5
Methinks Kekalainen is approaching desperation status. The Gaudreau deal didn't quite work out as expected and he's costing their owner a lot of money. Kekalainen has been there a long time and the team isn't getting any better or generating any more revenue, so I suspect his seat is getting hot. That's when you want to talk to someone about a deal. They're really short on centres. Too bad we don't have a surplus of them.
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Post by jkr on Jun 7, 2023 14:35:44 GMT -5
Well I think St Louis has 3 first round picks. Maybe something can happen there. I think our only reasonable hope of adding a 1st without trading down from #5 is by moving Anderson. STL might be a fit, I had hopes a team like Pittsburgh might want him, say for Granlund and their 1st, on draft day if no one they *deeply* love is still on the board... EDIT: With Treliving in Toronto, and he apparently liked Anderson when he was in Calgary, and with Hughes and him having made deals before, I wonder if Anderson to Toronto might make sense. The Bruins' first rounder would be attractive, just gotta find a way to make the cap work. I believe that Dubas traded Sandin to Washington to get that Boston pick. After that they only have a 5th and a 6th this year. They may be reluctant to part with it. |
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Post by folatre on Jun 7, 2023 19:16:31 GMT -5
Well, it indeed turned out that Blake used a big chunk of his available cap space getting a deal done with Gavrikov. Though it is interesting that the player must have very serious salary pretensions because he only agreed to two years ($5.875 AAV). At first blush one would think a primarily defensive d-man would want to go max term since he will be 28 years old this fall. But I think a lot of agents are telling their clients hey if you are not entirely satisfied with the money let's just structure it so you can get another bite of the apple when the cap is significantly higher and that's when you sign long-term.
Just thinking about this trend possibly gathering steam this summer makes me more relieved the Habs got Caufield locked up for eight years.
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Post by PTH on Jun 7, 2023 23:38:41 GMT -5
I'm wondering which players will go for 1-year deals, to try and set themselves up for a payday in a year. Monahan and Pacioretty are two examples who come to mind of players who could really use a healthy season to justify a longer-term deal, which is even more likely with a rising cap in the summer of '24.
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(besides CAP relief)
