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Post by Willie Dog on Jul 9, 2023 20:39:10 GMT -5
Sebrango is an Ottawa boy...
The 2024 1st rounder is Conditional
Conditions: Detroit has the option to send their own or Boston's 2024 1st round picks. In the event the Bruins' 2024 first-round selection is a top-10 pick, Boston can retain the pick and transfer their 2025 1st round pick instead. Detroit will then have the option of sending Boston's 2025 unprotected 1st or their own 2024 1st to Ottawa.
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Post by folatre on Jul 9, 2023 21:13:38 GMT -5
Sebrango is a tweener (AHL and ECHL), jeje. Kidding aside, Ottawa got themselves backed up against a wall, had no leverage whatsoever, and did not exactly get a haul.
Most likely, that first rounder is nothing more than a mid to low first rounder that may or may not pay any dividends five years down the road. Kubalik is a okay but the guy is soft, poor defensively and dependent on power play time and top six duty to put up 40 points per season. And he will be pending UFA.
When you look at what Dorion gave up to get DeBrincat (7th overall in 2022, 39th overall in 2022, and the Sens' third round pick in 2024), the reality is that Ottawa basically got borderline fleeced when one considers that DeBrincat's one season in Ottawa was not great and they missed the playoffs.
For me Dorion started operating like he was running a serious playoff team well before the roster he assembled could actually perform at such a level. He traded away valuable high first rounders in both the 2022 and 2023 drafts. He gave out massive eight year deals to handful of kids coming off their ELCs and the thus now the Sens are not exactly flush with cap flexibility. I am not saying being the GM of a club like Ottawa is easy. Melnyk was Melnyk. The Sens have a tiny season ticket fan base and a lousy arena, which all translates into being a lower revenue tier franchise. But still, I believe Dorion jumped the gun by 12-18 months and got aggressive before it made much sense to do so.
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Post by seventeen on Jul 10, 2023 1:45:41 GMT -5
Sebrango is a tweener (AHL and ECHL), jeje. Kidding aside, Ottawa got themselves backed up against a wall, had no leverage whatsoever, and did not exactly get a haul. Most likely, that first rounder is nothing more than a mid to low first rounder that may or may not pay any dividends five years down the road. Kubalik is a okay but the guy is soft, poor defensively and dependent on power play time and top six duty to put up 40 points per season. And he will be pending UFA. When you look at what Dorion gave up to get DeBrincat (7th overall in 2022, 39th overall in 2022, and the Sens' third round pick in 2024), the reality is that Ottawa basically got borderline fleeced when one considers that DeBrincat's one season in Ottawa was not great and they missed the playoffs. For me Dorion started operating like he was running a serious playoff team well before the roster he assembled could actually perform at such a level. He traded away valuable high first rounders in both the 2022 and 2023 drafts. He gave out massive eight year deals to handful of kids coming off their ELCs and the thus now the Sens are not exactly flush with cap flexibility. I am not saying being the GM of a club like Ottawa is easy. Melnyk was Melnyk. The Sens have a tiny season ticket fan base and a lousy arena, which all translates into being a lower revenue tier franchise. But still, I believe Dorion jumped the gun by 12-18 months and got aggressive before it made much sense to do so. That's the temptation a GM has to avoid. We should not be adding anyone who is going to make a huge improvement. Little ones are good. After this season, I think we can start to get serious.
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Post by folatre on Jul 10, 2023 17:58:05 GMT -5
This would have been like Hughes trading the fifth overall and another piece for Dubois. Actually, what Dorion did was far more questionable because DeBrincat would not extend, whereas I believe Dubois would have signed long-term no problem.
With the long streak with no playoffs and the difficulty selling duckets, Dorion probably got a little panicky instead of keeping a cool trigger finger.
Now I think he is dead man walking because for me despite their talent the roster has real issues (mostly young d-corps, terrible bottom six, Smith's lack of defensive structure and the top six being a reflection of this, average guys in net) and Andlauer is apparently inclined to be deeply involved in hockey ops. If the Sens do not break through now, upheaval is almost certain and the next guy in the GM chair will have a relatively shallow prospect pool while simultaneously enough talent at the NHL level to get stuck in that muddy middle.
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