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Post by Polarice on Aug 22, 2023 13:34:19 GMT -5
According to the Twitterverse the NHL has ok'd mailloux the ability to play in the NHL.
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Post by Willie Dog on Aug 22, 2023 15:02:40 GMT -5
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Post by Cranky on Aug 22, 2023 16:04:23 GMT -5
I'm actually more hopeful of him developing into our number 1 with defense AND offense. He's got the tools, the attitude and Laval does it's job of TEACHING him the defensive side of the game, easily done, then watch out.
I would pair him with Guhle and let them make mistakes even if it costs games. Guhle is most likely our best defensive defenseman AND he has the skating to keep up with Mailman. Plus the vision and shot. Their transition could be the game changer offensively that we dream of.
Of all the young defenseman we picked in the last decade, The last defenseman that i was so hopeful was Beaulieu. He had the tools and the attitude but a clusterpuck of a father and focus. He made consistently bad choices on the ice and lazy/bad choices in life that destroyed his career.
I wish they were still in Hamilton. I'm motivated to scout them like i did before and give first hand reports. I trust my eyes and knowledge vastly more then any beat writer or video. There is nothing that can match sitting 10 feet from the bench or moving around the stadium seats to get the best angle of who you are scouting. No video can give that in person fraction of a second nuance of a player making his decisions. In fact, that's how i came to the conclusion that Komi was going to be a rented mule. And that Pleky was going to be someone to watch.
Maybe we got someone who can do that in Laval?
BC? Where the pluck are you? You got the knowledge and writing skills. They are in your back yard!
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Post by Disgruntled70sHab on Aug 22, 2023 19:49:14 GMT -5
Of all the young defenseman we picked in the last decade, The last defenseman that i was so hopeful was Beaulieu. He had the tools and the attitude but a clusterpuck of a father and focus. He made consistently bad choices on the ice and lazy/bad choices in life that destroyed his career. I was hoping PK Subban would emerge as a star, and he did ... Nathan Beaulieu could also take care of himself, providing he stayed in his weight class ... his tiff with Nick Foligno didn't go well, but I saw him do well against other opponents ... I try to get to Belleville when Laval is in town, and it's where I first saw Rafaël Harvey-Pinard and Ryan Poehling ... RHP was literally all over the ice, while Poehling had two one-man rushes that ended at the Belleville blue line ... RHP is still with the Habs, while Poehling has been moved out ... remember seeing Liam Hawel in action in Belleville, and I remember his talent level ... he was, actually, more noticeable than Poehling ... not sure what the knock is on him, but he never made it to the show ... was glad to see Lukas Vejdemo pot a goal while I was there ... I remember the play ... Vejdemo finished off a goalmouth scramble ... didn't know if he was going to make it or not, but he was noticeable when I saw him ... edit: Hope to see Joshua Roy [#talent] make an impression at camp ... Cheers.
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Post by Cranky on Aug 22, 2023 20:00:01 GMT -5
Of all the young defenseman we picked in the last decade, The last defenseman that i was so hopeful was Beaulieu. He had the tools and the attitude but a clusterpuck of a father and focus. He made consistently bad choices on the ice and lazy/bad choices in life that destroyed his career. I was hoping PK Subban would emerge as a star, and he did ... Nathan Beaulieu could also take care of himself, providing he stayed in his weight class ... his tiff with Nick Foligno didn't go well, but I saw him do well against other opponents ... I try to get to Belleville when Laval is in town, and it's where I first saw Rafaël Harvey-Pinard and Ryan Poehling ... RHP was literally all over the ice, while Poehling had two one-man rushes that ended at the Belleville blue line ... RHP is still with the Habs, while Poehling has been moved out ... remember seeing Liam Hawel in action in Belleville, and I remember his talent level ... he was, actually, more noticeable than Poehling ... not sure what the knock is on him, but he never made it to the show ... was glad to see Lukas Vejdemo pot a goal while I was there ... I remember the play ... Vejdemo finished off a goalmouth scramble ... didn't know if Vejdemo was going to make it or not, but he was noticeable when I saw him ... Cheers. It wasn't Beau fists that destroyed his career, it was his hockey IQ that never progressed far past juniors. We need a full scouting write up on Mailman. Then a follow up through the season. Right now, he may be the player with the biggest future impact.
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Post by Disgruntled70sHab on Aug 22, 2023 20:17:05 GMT -5
I was hoping PK Subban would emerge as a star, and he did ... Nathan Beaulieu could also take care of himself, providing he stayed in his weight class ... his tiff with Nick Foligno didn't go well, but I saw him do well against other opponents ... I try to get to Belleville when Laval is in town, and it's where I first saw Rafaël Harvey-Pinard and Ryan Poehling ... RHP was literally all over the ice, while Poehling had two one-man rushes that ended at the Belleville blue line ... RHP is still with the Habs, while Poehling has been moved out ... remember seeing Liam Hawel in action in Belleville, and I remember his talent level ... he was, actually, more noticeable than Poehling ... not sure what the knock is on him, but he never made it to the show ... was glad to see Lukas Vejdemo pot a goal while I was there ... I remember the play ... Vejdemo finished off a goalmouth scramble ... didn't know if Vejdemo was going to make it or not, but he was noticeable when I saw him ... Cheers. It wasn't Beau fists that destroyed his career, it was his hockey IQ that never progressed far past juniors. I read the same thing back in the day ... Wonder where Molsonman ended up ...
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Post by Cranky on Aug 22, 2023 20:43:17 GMT -5
Wonder where Molsonman ended up ... Counting Goeff money....
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Post by Tankdriver on Aug 22, 2023 22:30:29 GMT -5
I'm actually more hopeful of him developing into our number 1 with defense AND offense. He's got the tools, the attitude and Laval does it's job of TEACHING him the defensive side of the game, easily done, then watch out. I would pair him with Guhle and let them make mistakes even if it costs games. Guhle is most likely our best defensive defenseman AND he has the skating to keep up with Mailman. Plus the vision and shot. Their transition could be the game changer offensively that we dream of. Of all the young defenseman we picked in the last decade, The last defenseman that i was so hopeful was Beaulieu. He had the tools and the attitude but a clusterpuck of a father and focus. He made consistently bad choices on the ice and lazy/bad choices in life that destroyed his career. I wish they were still in Hamilton. I'm motivated to scout them like i did before and give first hand reports. I trust my eyes and knowledge vastly more then any beat writer or video. There is nothing that can match sitting 10 feet from the bench or moving around the stadium seats to get the best angle of who you are scouting. No video can give that in person fraction of a second nuance of a player making his decisions. In fact, that's how i came to the conclusion that Komi was going to be a rented mule. And that Pleky was going to be someone to watch. Maybe we got someone who can do that in Laval? BC? Where the pluck are you? You got the knowledge and writing skills. They are in your back yard! I see Guehle with some good effensive in him. I can see 40-45 points a season.
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Post by Polarice on Aug 23, 2023 5:50:04 GMT -5
We've seen a lot of prospects come and go...most never living up to their hype. With that said....I've never seen a defensive prospect pool like the one we have right now. Reinbacher, Hutson, Mailloux, Barron, Engstrom, Guhle, Norlinder not to mention Xhekaj.
Most of these guys should have long careers in the NHL, hopefully we are able to keep most of them for the next 5 to 8 years and not trade them away.
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Post by Skilly on Aug 23, 2023 10:38:59 GMT -5
I guess now it will be a race to see who develops best / fastest - Mailloux, Hutson, Reinbacher, Struble, Engstrom, Trudeau
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Post by seventeen on Aug 23, 2023 12:20:53 GMT -5
We've seen a lot of prospects come and go...most never living up to their hype. With that said....I've never seen a defensive prospect pool like the one we have right now. Reinbacher, Hutson, Mailloux, Barron, Engstrom, Guhle, Norlinder not to mention Xhekaj. It's easy to forget Jordan Harris because he seems to have been around forever (as a prospect), but he only just turned 23. remember when we were worrying about him going the UFA route because he played 4 years in the NCAA? He's more developed than the rest, but still on the learning curve, and overly underrated IMO. PS. When I read that Mailloux has been greenlighted, my brain goes to Gaslighted because that word has become so much a part of the vocabulary. No connection at all of course, just a comment on the brain.
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Post by Cranky on Aug 23, 2023 14:29:37 GMT -5
From our defense prospects I expect the following hierarchy in 3 years...and we're talking that Guhle is as top 2 in any team.
Guhle Reinbacher Mail Harris Hutson X
Norlinder gone and a few of them traded or journeyman. I honestly can't see Struble making it and maybe on Barron/Engstrom/Trudeau.
On the other hand, early on in his career, I thought that Beaulieu had top 6 if not top 4 written on him...but wont blame myself for his Atari brain. Then of course he came up the MThead/Julien era.
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Post by seventeen on Aug 23, 2023 20:53:53 GMT -5
Aha! Prediction time. Three years, huh? Guhle - Matheson (yep, playing on the right) Hutson - Reinbacher Xhekaj and one of Harris or Engstrom depth - Struble, Barron, Trudeau (and just to tick everyone off, Mailloux will have been included in a trade )
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Post by Polarice on Aug 24, 2023 6:29:38 GMT -5
We've seen a lot of prospects come and go...most never living up to their hype. With that said....I've never seen a defensive prospect pool like the one we have right now. Reinbacher, Hutson, Mailloux, Barron, Engstrom, Guhle, Norlinder not to mention Xhekaj. It's easy to forget Jordan Harris because he seems to have been around forever (as a prospect), but he only just turned 23. remember when we were worrying about him going the UFA route because he played 4 years in the NCAA? He's more developed than the rest, but still on the learning curve, and overly underrated IMO. PS. When I read that Mailloux has been greenlighted, my brain goes to Gaslighted because that word has become so much a part of the vocabulary. No connection at all of course, just a comment on the brain. I actually did forget to include Harris, he wasn't left out on purpose.
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Post by folatre on Aug 24, 2023 15:16:22 GMT -5
This was the only reasonable decision. His case was never in any substantive way like the Miller case.
Mailloux has a lot of talent. But this is his first year of pro hockey, so there will be ups and downs.
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Post by Cranky on Aug 24, 2023 18:52:49 GMT -5
The ONLY thing that can take away some of the anger of the last two years of total failure is to see the rise of these kids.
I'm so looking forward for our baby faced defense to step up into the next level.
If Guhle and Mail is our legitimate 1st pairing by the end of the season. that would be amazing. Of course there are other targets, but those two i want to see as leaders of our Ministry of Defence and Pain. X can be the clean up guy.
BTW, with X, Mail, Pez and Anderson, teams will think twice about getting "tough" with us. In fact, Hutson should have the beers and pizza on speed dial.
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Post by folatre on Aug 26, 2023 18:59:33 GMT -5
I know in terms of size, Mailloux is a shade bigger than Guhle. But basically I think those two are comparable in terms of the physicality they bring to the table. They are willing to deliver a big hit and clear the crease, though guys with considerable skill who are playing top four minutes probably should not be among the core pieces in the deterrence arsenal.
I do not want to hijack the Mailloux thread here with a more general discussion about team toughness and where the Habs stand in that regard, so I will create a new thread if I really feel like expounding on the issue.
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Post by Cranky on Aug 26, 2023 23:52:52 GMT -5
I know in terms of size, Mailloux is a shade bigger than Guhle. But basically I think those two are comparable in terms of the physicality they bring to the table. They are willing to deliver a big hit and clear the crease, though guys with considerable skill who are playing top four minutes probably should not be among the core pieces in the deterrence arsenal. I do not want to hijack the Mailloux thread here with a more general discussion about team toughness and where the Habs stand in that regard, so I will create a new thread if I really feel like expounding on the issue. I'm not sure where you are heading with this. Invariably, if Guhle/Mailman distribute pain, they will be challenged. Much like Weber and BigBird, there is nothing wrong if Mailman answers the call. It won't be his job to retaliate, but he can certainly lay a beating to someone taking liberties with our goalies. The last time we had this much heavyweight deterence in our defense was way back with BigBird and Pierre Bouchard. Actually, Mail and X are bigger then those guys. X is in the 240 range and Mailman is now in 220 range. We got the beef....
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Post by Willie Dog on Aug 27, 2023 7:37:16 GMT -5
I've been seeing some articles where it's been stated that Logan being reinstated was helped greatly by the support he recieved from Chantal Machabée as well as France Margaret Bélanger and Geneviève Paquette. Kudos to the entire organisation for supporting this kid especially HuGo, since they didn't draft him they could have dumped him...
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Post by seventeen on Aug 27, 2023 13:37:11 GMT -5
Hear, hear.
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Post by Willie Dog on Aug 30, 2023 12:54:49 GMT -5
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Post by IamCanadiens on Aug 30, 2023 13:57:34 GMT -5
So should we change the title of the thread to Logan Mailloux yellow lighted?
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Post by Willie Dog on Aug 30, 2023 16:28:42 GMT -5
So should we change the title of the thread to Logan Mailloux yellow lighted? Lol
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Post by Willie Dog on Sept 11, 2023 19:46:25 GMT -5
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Post by Cranky on Sept 11, 2023 20:12:55 GMT -5
I trust Buttman as much as a cornered rattlesnake.
Mailioux would be a world class idiot if he hasn't got legal advice. He can use previous NHL decisions against them if they decide they want to be extra woke.
Hoping this is behind him and Buttman goes back in his hole.
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Post by Polarice on Sept 12, 2023 5:23:51 GMT -5
I trust Buttman as much as a cornered rattlesnake. Mailioux would be a world class idiot if he hasn't got legal advice. He can use previous NHL decisions against them if they decide they want to be extra woke. Hoping this is behind him and Buttman goes back in his hole. According to Molson, Mailoux is good to play in the NHL if he makes the team.
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Post by seventeen on Sept 12, 2023 13:21:31 GMT -5
I trust Buttman as much as a cornered rattlesnake. Mailioux would be a world class idiot if he hasn't got legal advice. He can use previous NHL decisions against them if they decide they want to be extra woke. Hoping this is behind him and Buttman goes back in his hole. Rattlesnakes like to be left alone are only dangerous when they feel threatened (or if you're a mouse). I don't think the same can be said of Mr. Bettman.
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Post by Cranky on Sept 12, 2023 16:40:43 GMT -5
I trust Buttman as much as a cornered rattlesnake. Mailioux would be a world class idiot if he hasn't got legal advice. He can use previous NHL decisions against them if they decide they want to be extra woke. Hoping this is behind him and Buttman goes back in his hole. According to Molson, Mailoux is good to play in the NHL if he makes the team. I get nervous about the "if he makes it to the NHL". Back door deals are a thing. Right now we don't have the Ministry of Defence that he needs to crack. He needs AHL seasoning to get his defensive game in gear to go with his potential decent to high NHL offense.
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Post by Willie Dog on Sept 12, 2023 17:19:15 GMT -5
According to Molson, Mailoux is good to play in the NHL if he makes the team. I get nervous about the "if he makes it to the NHL". Back door deals are a thing. Right now we don't have the Ministry of Defence that he needs to crack. He needs AHL seasoning to get his defensive game in gear to go with his potential decent to high NHL offense. I agree, there is no room on the big club this year
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