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Post by habsorbed on Oct 3, 2023 0:44:48 GMT -5
Cole looks like he's even better than before - good progression. Very happy with Mailloux's play. He's going to be a good one.
Gally some old older player. Evans just takes up space.
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Post by Polarice on Oct 3, 2023 7:20:09 GMT -5
Got to send Allen down.....if someone claims him...so be it. Habs defense is shaping up...a little ahead of schedule which could create some problems getting guys ice time. May see a few guys traded come trade deadline which could set us up for a playoff run next year.
Our offense is missing one more top six player...we need someone that could get us 30-35 goals, 70 points. They will likely (hopefully) come during the deadline when we trade a couple dmen.
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Post by Skilly on Oct 3, 2023 7:35:57 GMT -5
Stinky first shot goal Allen. Mid season form. Jake “First Shot” All-en Jake “First Shot” All(ways)en FSA doesn’t give SFA about being ready to start games **All-en is a good nickname for him. We’d do better with an empty net (en), or even just the stick lying across the crease |
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Post by Cranky on Oct 3, 2023 11:35:18 GMT -5
I'm not going to stoop down like those low life people who can't wait to say i told you so...
Screw it....I TOLD YA MAILMAN IS GOING TO BRING IT!!
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Post by seventeen on Oct 3, 2023 11:44:38 GMT -5
Stinky first shot goal Allen. Mid season form. Jake “First Shot” All-en Jake “First Shot” All(ways)en FSA doesn’t give SFA about being ready to start games **All-en is a good nickname for him. We’d do better with an empty net (en), or even just the stick lying across the crease He played quite well in the parts I saw (second half of game), but that was a really soft, inattentive first goal. |
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Post by seventeen on Oct 3, 2023 11:51:03 GMT -5
I'm not going to stoop down like those low life people who can't wait to say i told you so... Screw it....I TOLD YA MAILMAN IS GOING TO BRING IT!! Maybe. His passing was good and he has a good shot, but some of his rushes were very poorly thought out. He was often jammed against the boards and the puck went the other way. I think he's used to being able to skate past people using his speed and size, but that's not as successful at the NHL level. I didn't pay enough attention to him in our end to see how his positioning was. The big boys (mgmt) will have done that. All the good reports about Reinbacher in his own zone (gap control, active stick, making good decisions) are the things I'm not sure about with Mailloux. If he can master those, that's a strong addition to the defense corps. |
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Post by Cranky on Oct 3, 2023 13:52:48 GMT -5
I read that Mailman is already 230 and probably plateaus at 240 plus.
They may need to reinforce the floors if Mailman and X play at the same time. Heck, add Slaf at 230, Dach at 220 and Anderson at 220.
Remember the days of the mini Habs?
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Post by Willie Dog on Oct 3, 2023 14:12:30 GMT -5
I read that Mailman is already 230 and probably plateaus at 240 plus. They may need to reinforce the floors if Mailman and X play at the same time. Heck, add Slaf at 230, Dach at 220 and Anderson at 220. Remember the days of the mini Habs? Hopefully X Jr. Flo makes the team and grows... |
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Post by Tankdriver on Oct 3, 2023 14:24:00 GMT -5
Got to send Allen down.....if someone claims him...so be it. Habs defense is shaping up...a little ahead of schedule which could create some problems getting guys ice time. May see a few guys traded come trade deadline which could set us up for a playoff run next year. Our offense is missing one more top six player...we need someone that could get us 30-35 goals, 70 points. They will likely (hopefully) come during the deadline when we trade a couple dmen. That's the problem. Ottawa has placed two defenceman - a former first rounder and a second rounder who haven't even reached 23 years on waivers. The first one was claimed and but Bernard-Docker does too. We have to be careful and proactive or else we will lose Barron |
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Post by Cranky on Oct 3, 2023 18:15:03 GMT -5
Laffy is stinking up the joint for the Rags and he may be available.
The only thing we can spare are players like Barron. If that's all they want, I'd do it.
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Post by folatre on Oct 3, 2023 19:22:41 GMT -5
It would take a lot more than Barron.
If we think back to the Lehkonen trade, at the time basically I estimate that Sakic was valuing Barron as a mid-second round pick (so the Habs return was effectively a mid second and a pick destined to be a late second in 2024). What is his value now? I would probably about the same as it was. The kid has tools and got some valuable NHL experience in 2022-23 so those are plusses, but he also displayed some unsettling tendencies in terms of decision-making with the puck and tardiness in killing opposition plays in the Habs d-zone.
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Post by Cranky on Oct 3, 2023 20:06:57 GMT -5
Of course the Rags will start with Dach and "settle" for Anderson as long as we retain. Not going to happen. At best, he was worth a mid 1st and that has declined to a late 1st. Another 40 point season and he's a mid second.
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Post by seventeen on Oct 3, 2023 22:27:16 GMT -5
I read that Mailman is already 230 and probably plateaus at 240 plus. They may need to reinforce the floors if Mailman and X play at the same time. Heck, add Slaf at 230, Dach at 220 and Anderson at 220. Remember the days of the mini Habs? Smurfs. Wasn't that their name? |
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Post by PTH on Oct 3, 2023 22:45:13 GMT -5
It would take a lot more than Barron. I also wonder about team speed. Lafrenière is by all reports pretty slow, and while we have a bigger team than at many points in the past, we also don't have much team speed. Newhook and Matheson might be the only above-average skaters we have tight now. So I'm not sure adding another big slow guy is the way forward... |
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Post by seventeen on Oct 3, 2023 23:12:26 GMT -5
Of course the Rags will start with Dach and "settle" for Anderson as long as we retain. Not going to happen. At best, he was worth a mid 1st and that has declined to a late 1st. Another 40 point season and he's a mid second. I was one of, if not the biggest, "trade Anderson" proponent. I've changed my mind. The Bergevin/Ducharme/Julien version of Anderson was very trade worthy. Marty has turned him into a pretty good player. I'm not sure he's worth $5.5MM, but if not he's pretty close. I'm guessing he puts up more points this year than his historical averages would suggest. And he's passing the puck and making good plays. Watched Marinaro today, with Eric Engels as his guest. Some decent discussion, including the likelihood that some really good LHD is going to be traded. Engels said that Marty made the point that if Habs can get a guy who is Caufield light as a scorer, the top two lines are going to be extremely dangerous. He sees Dach as having a very high ceiling, but needing a natural scorer to really boost his points. Unless they finish bottom 5 they have only the trade route available to them to get that guy. And you don't get that guy by dangling someone like Barron. you have to give them something of value and that means a good LHD at least and maybe one more prospect like an Ylonen who could become a top 9 guy without much trouble. So who is that LHD? Let's take out the guys we can't afford to lose. Matheson (if he plays left or right), Guhle and Xhekaj. The latter isn't our best LHD by a long shot, but he brings something no other player on our team has. That leaves, between current players and prospects, Harris, Hutson, Engstrom, Norlinder and Struble. Most here would consider Hutson untouchable. Norlinder had a great game yesterday but might still struggle defending (maybe). Thing is you have to give up value. We don't really know what it will cost until the opportunity arises and we know who the target is. But you can bet they'll sacrifice someone like Harris and maybe even Engstrom if the player is good enough. Which takes me to Cranky and Lafreniere.  Is he the real deal, held back by poor management? Or is his ceiling much lower than we all thought? Would a Harris, Ylonen and Farrell or Barron be enough? Is that too much? We wouldn't miss the latter 3 because of depth, but Harris is a really good dman and Ylonen and Farrell are good prospects/players. I agree, btw, on Dach. I think he may even have a higher ceiling than Suzuki. Engels was saying that against Toronto, Dach was impressive, but had only brought his B game. His A game would be scary. |
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Post by Polarice on Oct 4, 2023 7:40:57 GMT -5
Of course the Rags will start with Dach and "settle" for Anderson as long as we retain. Not going to happen. At best, he was worth a mid 1st and that has declined to a late 1st. Another 40 point season and he's a mid second. I was one of, if not the biggest, "trade Anderson" proponent. I've changed my mind. The Bergevin/Ducharme/Julien version of Anderson was very trade worthy. Marty has turned him into a pretty good player. I'm not sure he's worth $5.5MM, but if not he's pretty close. I'm guessing he puts up more points this year than his historical averages would suggest. And he's passing the puck and making good plays. Watched Marinaro today, with Eric Engels as his guest. Some decent discussion, including the likelihood that some really good LHD is going to be traded. Engels said that Marty made the point that if Habs can get a guy who is Caufield light as a scorer, the top two lines are going to be extremely dangerous. He sees Dach as having a very high ceiling, but needing a natural scorer to really boost his points. Unless they finish bottom 5 they have only the trade route available to them to get that guy. And you don't get that guy by dangling someone like Barron. you have to give them something of value and that means a good LHD at least and maybe one more prospect like an Ylonen who could become a top 9 guy without much trouble. So who is that LHD? Let's take out the guys we can't afford to lose. Matheson (if he plays left or right), Guhle and Xhekaj. The latter isn't our best LHD by a long shot, but he brings something no other player on our team has. That leaves, between current players and prospects, Harris, Hutson, Engstrom, Norlinder and Struble. Most here would consider Hutson untouchable. Norlinder had a great game yesterday but might still struggle defending (maybe). Thing is you have to give up value. We don't really know what it will cost until the opportunity arises and we know who the target is. But you can bet they'll sacrifice someone like Harris and maybe even Engstrom if the player is good enough. Which takes me to Cranky and Lafreniere. Is he the real deal, held back by poor management? Or is his ceiling much lower than we all thought? Would a Harris, Ylonen and Farrell or Barron be enough? Is that too much? We wouldn't miss the latter 3 because of depth, but Harris is a really good dman and Ylonen and Farrell are good prospects/players.
I agree, btw, on Dach. I think he may even have a higher ceiling than Suzuki. Engels was saying that against Toronto, Dach was impressive, but had only brought his B game. His A game would be scary. I was thinking that the Rangers are looking to dump him for anything decent....offering up a combo of a young d-man like Barron or Norlinder along with someone like Dvorak or Ylonen plus a late 1st or early 2nd depending on the prospect should do it. |
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Post by Cranky on Oct 4, 2023 9:49:08 GMT -5
Harris and a late second is on the verge of too much.
Laffy can go either way and his 1OA means nothing. He can just as easily be a 40 point bottom 6 then a 70 point top 6.
Them are the risks one takes...
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Is he the real deal, held back by poor management? Or is his ceiling much lower than we all thought? Would a Harris, Ylonen and Farrell or Barron be enough? Is that too much? We wouldn't miss the latter 3 because of depth, but Harris is a really good dman and Ylonen and Farrell are good prospects/players.