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Post by drkcloud on Oct 17, 2023 19:40:16 GMT -5
Rapidly being reminded just how bad we were last year and continue to be. Not much has changed. Lacklustre effort tonight, even our captain
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Post by Willie Dog on Oct 17, 2023 19:42:38 GMT -5
0 for 3 on the pp... they need to let the moron running the pp go...
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Post by folatre on Oct 17, 2023 20:07:39 GMT -5
Not criticizing the guy as a hockey player because he is certainly quality, but when did Eriksson Ek evolve into this yapper, scappy type dude? Maybe I missed it. Or maybe I just do not watch many Minnesota games each season.
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Post by seventeen on Oct 17, 2023 20:08:26 GMT -5
Game is blacked out here. I can only make assumptions from stats. We’re getting outshot 2-1 and Monty has an .852 save %. Ouch.
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Post by folatre on Oct 17, 2023 20:11:01 GMT -5
Montembeault has not been scored on even strength, at least.
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Post by Willie Dog on Oct 17, 2023 20:13:28 GMT -5
That call on pearson was a joke, his stick did not make contact, the guy sold it
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Post by folatre on Oct 17, 2023 20:13:43 GMT -5
The Habs continue to commit infractions at a 2:1 ratio against opponents. It is impossible to win this way. What does this say about the coaching? Or the hockey IQ of the players?
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Post by Willie Dog on Oct 17, 2023 20:27:32 GMT -5
I wonder if the media will ask msl some hard questions about the special teams or will they continue to play footsies with him?
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Post by Willie Dog on Oct 17, 2023 20:32:16 GMT -5
The reffing is atrocious
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Post by folatre on Oct 17, 2023 20:34:39 GMT -5
Pezzetta not taking any shet. Tossed Duhaime down. Beat up Mermis. I cannot fathom how a bad team like Montreal that will face a ton of blowout scores with opponents clowning them would choose not to have Pezzetta in the lineup.
Eriksson Ek, the newly minted pseudo tough guy, quickly got out of town before going nose to nose with Anderson.
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Post by Willie Dog on Oct 17, 2023 20:45:58 GMT -5
6 on 4 and no goal... this is pathetic... will the coaches get any heat from the media?
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Post by Disgruntled70sHab on Oct 17, 2023 20:50:58 GMT -5
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Post by jkr on Oct 17, 2023 20:54:06 GMT -5
Pezzetta not taking any shet. Tossed Duhaime down. Beat up Mermis. I cannot fathom how a bad team like Montreal that will face a ton of blowout scores with opponents clowning them would choose not to have Pezzetta in the lineup. Eriksson Ek, the newly minted pseudo tough guy, quickly got out of town before going nose to nose with Anderson. They should have re-signed Reaves.  |
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Post by Willie Dog on Oct 17, 2023 20:55:24 GMT -5
Unbelievable... how in the hell do we have so many fragile players... wtf In practice do they play patty cakes or do they actually play like it would be on a game... is it a country club... I don't understand |
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Post by jkr on Oct 17, 2023 20:56:29 GMT -5
I'm starting to worry about Guhle's ability to stay healthy. Played only 44 games last season. |
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Post by PTH on Oct 17, 2023 20:58:35 GMT -5
Game is blacked out here. I can only make assumptions from stats. We’re getting outshot 2-1 and Monty has an .852 save %. Ouch. I'm not a Montembeault fan, but this is 100% not on him. I think the team was even more down about losing Dach than this board was. |
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Post by folatre on Oct 17, 2023 21:33:14 GMT -5
Yeah, it is hard to know just by watching the video of all these injuries. Nothing really stands out, so my rational side would still say it is basically not a definitive pattern, thus more accurate to describe as random and unlucky.
But at the same time I do believe some guys are simply more predisposed to injury. I am not a medical doctor or a scientist, so I have no idea why that may be. I mean, look at a guy like Ovechkin who has played in the league for almost 20 years and probably not missed more than 50 games over the decades. And it is not a style of play thing because Ovi has been a raging bull. In the old country something that was durable or indestructible was referred to as carne de perro.
I believe kids like Dach and Guhle have the talent and desire to be very good NHLers, but the numbers are what they are until they change. And, fair or not, the only way to shed the injury-prone label is to be playing hockey.
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Post by seventeen on Oct 17, 2023 22:31:07 GMT -5
It helps to be flexible I think (a personal theory). Body parts are going to be bent in ways they’re not intended. Some yoga would both add flexibility and strength. The weight room msy not be the best place to be. I slso am curious how much cardio the guys do. Do they run 5k a day or more?
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Post by habsorbed on Oct 18, 2023 0:15:04 GMT -5
The Habs continue to commit infractions at a 2:1 ratio against opponents. It is impossible to win this way. What does this say about the coaching? Or the hockey IQ of the players? Even more disturbuing is that 5 of our penalties were in the o-zone, that's right 5, That's ridiculous. I'm starting to wonder if the kumbya approach of Marty may make the players feel good but it doesn't seem to produce results particularly when it comes to discipline. |
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Post by habsorbed on Oct 18, 2023 0:21:38 GMT -5
Horrible game all around. That's 3 in a row for our rudderless captain. I don't even recognize the guy anymore. He better turn it around soon or the media and then fans will get on him and then it will be very tough to get out of this funk. You don't get to wear the C and stink out the joint game after game.
I thought with Dach out that Josh would seize the momnet but instead a very bad outing.
Newhook is impressing and hopefully will continue to get better.
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Post by Polarice on Oct 18, 2023 5:29:39 GMT -5
Sloppy hockey all around.....don't want to rush to any judgements yet but it's not looking good for our special team coaches.
On a positive note....take away the special team goals and we win the game.
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Post by PTH on Oct 18, 2023 8:08:44 GMT -5
The Habs continue to commit infractions at a 2:1 ratio against opponents. It is impossible to win this way. What does this say about the coaching? Or the hockey IQ of the players? Even more disturbuing is that 5 of our penalties were in the o-zone, that's right 5, That's ridiculous. I'm starting to wonder if the kumbya approach of Marty may make the players feel good but it doesn't seem to produce results particularly when it comes to discipline. Yup, I'm starting to wonder about this as well.... I think MSL might be a great coach for players of a specific type (ie, high-talent players like he was, who felt stifled by systems-first coaches), and he has a teaching quality that goes over well, too, but I'm not seeing the overall play I'd like to see. He'd be a great coach to take a Jacques Martin coached team and loosen it up by giving high-talent players some room to play their game, to generate extra offense, but he isn't the guy who'll take a low-talent team and make the whole better than the sum of the parts through disciplined team play. |
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Post by Skilly on Oct 18, 2023 8:22:08 GMT -5
The Habs continue to commit infractions at a 2:1 ratio against opponents. It is impossible to win this way. What does this say about the coaching? Or the hockey IQ of the players? I saw a Twitter stat Through 8 periods of play in 2023-2024 the Habs have 20 penalties No other team is even close |
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Post by habsorbed on Oct 18, 2023 9:50:55 GMT -5
The Habs continue to commit infractions at a 2:1 ratio against opponents. It is impossible to win this way. What does this say about the coaching? Or the hockey IQ of the players? I saw a Twitter stat Through 8 periods of play in 2023-2024 the Habs have 20 penalties No other team is even close There was a time when a dumb penalty or two ended up with a benching of the player. Has Marty ever benched anyone during a game? |
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Post by NWTHabsFan on Oct 18, 2023 9:53:32 GMT -5
So they are taking way too many penalties and their PP went from brutal to embarrassing by giving up two shorties last night. I am fully on the get rid of Burrows bandwagon (have been for a long time), but the players need to take some accountability for their part in this mess too. Maybe a more serious experienced systems associate coach to balance out MSL is what is needed the most right now. I know they are not poised to contend right now so hammering too much on mistakes at this stage of the team’s development is a problem too, but you don’t want too many bad habits sneaking in as the young core develop together. Matter of balance.
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Post by Willie Dog on Oct 18, 2023 10:56:38 GMT -5
So they are taking way too many penalties and their PP went from brutal to embarrassing by giving up two shorties last night. I am fully on the get rid of Burrows bandwagon (have been for a long time), but the players need to take some accountability for their part in this mess too. Maybe a more serious experienced systems associate coach to balance out MSL is what is needed the most right now. I know they are not poised to contend right now so hammering too much on mistakes at this stage of the team’s development is a problem too, but you don’t want too many bad habits sneaking in as the young core develop together. Matter of balance. I said it earlier in the thread that this team needs a Nate Shelley... if you watched Ted Lasso you'd know what I mean BTW, this team misses Luke Richardson behind the bench. |
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Post by folatre on Oct 18, 2023 20:32:38 GMT -5
Last season I know St. Louis tried to take some heat off Burrows by stating publicly that all the coaches collaborate on the power play tactics and prep. But it is not really a secret that Burrows (and the players, of course) have more to do with what we are seeing with the man advantage than St. Louis or management. Naturally St. Louis and management need to get the right balance between accountability and stability, but if this special teams shet show continues enough should be enough and a staff shakeup is in order (for me it is already overdue).
I thought I knew but I am drawing a blank this evening, who is the main voice and set of coaching eyes scrutinizing the PK? Is it Robidas or Letowski?
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Post by Polarice on Oct 19, 2023 7:38:37 GMT -5
I've played some hockey in my younger years, and played a lot on special teams. Back then rule of thumb was never allow the puck go go behind the defence in both the PP and the PK. On the PK if the puck goes into the corner, the dman is never to go chase it. The forward goes to retrieve the puck if he fails the dman helps prevent the pass from coming out to the front of the net. Make the opposing player to play it up the boards. When the dman start chasing the puck it's over and you see it all the time in Montreal.
The PP is simple, if you don't have a shot, pass it to someone who does. Don't shoot for the sake of shooting, you might as well just shoot it over the boards.
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Post by Willie Dog on Oct 19, 2023 10:19:00 GMT -5
I've played some hockey in my younger years, and played a lot on special teams. Back then rule of thumb was never allow the puck go go behind the defence in both the PP and the PK. On the PK if the puck goes into the corner, the dman is never to go chase it. The forward goes to retrieve the puck if he fails the dman helps prevent the pass from coming out to the front of the net. Make the opposing player to play it up the boards. When the dman start chasing the puck it's over and you see it all the time in Montreal. The PP is simple, if you don't have a shot, pass it to someone who does. Don't shoot for the sake of shooting, you might as well just shoot it over the boards. Can you replace Burrows? Please? Signed All Habs Fans |
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Post by franko on Oct 19, 2023 13:04:02 GMT -5
Can you replace Burrows? Please? Signed All Habs Fans Can we keep Burrows and sign him to an extension? said no Habs fan, ever. |
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