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Post by franko on Feb 12, 2024 11:47:17 GMT -5
Reilly had an in person hearing. That usually means at least 5 games, right? after all is said and done and the excuses are made, I think five games for Greig is too many. sure he was a bit of a jerk, but after having listened to "Go Leafs Go" in his own building all night long his emotions just got carried away a bit. oh, you mean Reilly? well, since Don Cherry thinks that Greig deserved it for showboating, that the two-hander accidently hit Greig in the face instead of the shoulders, and that Greig deserved it, why are we even talking about this? spin the wheel, George, spin the wheel, |
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Post by jkr on Feb 12, 2024 11:54:00 GMT -5
Nice one Franko
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Post by folatre on Feb 12, 2024 19:46:44 GMT -5
Yes, supposedly, though I am not sure it is an iron clad rule.
I think 5+ games would be excessive. However, with the DPS and Parros, who knows what rubric, rhyme, or reason gets applied here.
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Post by Cranky on Feb 12, 2024 22:45:25 GMT -5
Parros is using extensive analysis before making a decision. Here is the highly advance technology he's using...  |
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Post by seventeen on Feb 12, 2024 23:46:13 GMT -5
Yep...looked like sneaky-dirty Marchandesque retaliation for a nothing-hit. It wasn't a regular tie-up that went wrong. He skated into Max aiming with the blade and watched it all the way. As Messier said during the ESPN intermission, "He clearly was not looking at the puck or any other player there...watch his eyes...he's grown up with a stick in his hands since he was a little boy....hard not to call that one."What's worse,broken ball$ or a broken neck? Why is it always the Bruins? Does Neely run dirtbag classes after practice? (I wrote 'dirtbag' but I had another syllable in mind, also starting with D and ending with E. Ouch, I nearly said it.)  |
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Post by CentreHice on Feb 13, 2024 10:01:58 GMT -5
Slap Shot antics are rare...but...
From a Feb. 2nd USHL game between Sioux City Mariners and Omaha Lancers.
Last-place Lancers down 4-2 late...empty net. Posma with a dreadful giveaway...and an outright assault on the backcheck. He got 17 games for this display--his second suspension in only 10 GP this season.
Play-by-play guy: "That is ridiculous! Posma should NOT be in this league. Everything he does in this league is just bein' a thug."
Odd how nobody on the Mariners went at him--especially with the score then being 5-2.
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Post by IamCanadiens on Feb 13, 2024 10:33:36 GMT -5
Yes, supposedly, though I am not sure it is an iron clad rule. I think 5+ games would be excessive. However, with the DPS and Parros, who knows what rubric, rhyme, or reason gets applied here. I'm on the other side of the fence but I think 'the code' is an outdated thug concept. I'd give him 20+ games. The play was over and it was a predatory shot to the head. In what world is it okay to target someone's head with a weapon to teach him a lesson? Did we learn nothing from the Bertuzzi-Moore incident? the Turgeon Hunter incident? the McSorely- Brashear incident? Sometimes I think nothing short of a player's death would make the league aka old boys club really change the direction of player safety. |
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Post by Willie Dog on Feb 13, 2024 11:08:00 GMT -5
Yes, supposedly, though I am not sure it is an iron clad rule. I think 5+ games would be excessive. However, with the DPS and Parros, who knows what rubric, rhyme, or reason gets applied here. I'm on the other side of the fence but I think 'the code' is an outdated thug concept. I'd give him 20+ games. The play was over and it was a predatory shot to the head. In what world is it okay to target someone's head with a weapon to teach him a lesson? Did we learn nothing from the Bertuzzi-Moore incident? the Turgeon Hunter incident? the McSorely- Brashear incident? Sometimes I think nothing short of a player's death would make the league aka old boys club really change the direction of player safety. A death wouldn't change anything, they're right and everyone else is wrong. |
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Post by jkr on Feb 13, 2024 11:56:07 GMT -5
Slap Shot antics are rare...but... From a Feb. 2nd USHL game between Sioux City Mariners and Omaha Lancers. Last-place Lancers down 4-2 late...empty net. Posma with a dreadful giveaway...and an outright assault on the backcheck. He got 17 games for this display--his second suspension in only 10 GP this season. Play-by-play guy: "That is ridiculous! Posma should NOT be in this league. Everything he does in this league is just bein' a thug." Odd how nobody on the Mariners went at him--especially with the score then being 5-2. I'm amazed he only got 17 games . He took 3 swings at the guy, all of them could be deemed a deliberate attempt to injure. He should be gone for the season, at least. And if I'm the Mariners coach I'm thinking the same thing. He should have been jumped and pummelled by a teammate. How could they watch that happen & skate away? I looked at the Lancers web site and checked their rather sizable roster. I didnt see Posma's name and in fact, someone else is wearing the number 12 he wears in this video. could they have cut him loose? Their head coach is David Wilkie - I wonder if it's the same guy that played for Montreal. He may not have this job much longer. They are dead last of 16 teams and on an 11 game losing streak. Just 2 days after this incident the Tri City club lit them up for 12 goals.  |
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Post by CentreHice on Feb 13, 2024 12:29:48 GMT -5
Posma is listed on the 2023-24 Lancers' roster here, under Defensemen. And yes...that's the same David Wilkie. He became GM and HC in 2017...left in 2021...but returned in 2022-23. A catastrophic season thus far. 7-31-3-0. Leading the league in GA and PIM. Last in GF with 100 after 41 games. Frustration galore, no doubt...but yep, Wilkie should take out that trash. Lancers Roster |
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Post by jkr on Feb 13, 2024 13:33:17 GMT -5
Posma is listed on the 2023-24 Lancers' roster here, under Defensemen. And yes...that's the same David Wilkie. He became GM and HC in 2017...left in 2021...but returned in 2022-23. A catastrophic season thus far. 7-31-3-0. Leading the league in GA and PIM. Last in GF with 100 after 41 games. Frustration galore, no doubt...but yep, Wilkie should take out that trash. Lancers RosterI was looking under the Lancers own web site. Oddly it is a year out of date. Your USHL link is current, Thanks. |
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Post by Skilly on Feb 13, 2024 16:58:35 GMT -5
There is a lot of talk on the "code".
So Grieg broke the code by slapping it into the empty net? This code book keeps getting bigger,it's so hard to keep up
But no one mentioned that the code states you rough up the guy. A face wash, a hard check, you take his number for next time, OR you fight. Pretty sure the hockey code does not say "cross check in the face"
Now, everyone with say .. but but Grieg showed disrespect and his actions led to the cross check. But what if I told you, that just earlier, he was cross checked and thrown down and the ref didn't call it, and his slap shot was both out of frustration at the non-calls and more a signal to the refs that they won despite their bad non calls? Cause guess what? Grieg was mugged twice in that game and he was very frustrated. Emotions high and mitigating factors, right? That's what everyone says about Reilly, but why not look at what happened in that game to Grieg too?
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Post by Skilly on Feb 13, 2024 17:10:16 GMT -5
Here is the deal. There is already a precedent set this year for something like this.
The play was over. The foul occured not during the course of play.
The head was targeted.
The victim was not injured and missed no games
The aggressor had zero history of suspension or supplementary discipline
The precedent is the David Perron cross check on Artem Zub
6 games
That's why it is in-person
An in-person hearing is required if the league deems there is a possibility they will give the player more than 5 games. But they still can dole out less than 5 if they are convinced otherwise in the hearing.
I'm sure the TML will have their PR machine drum up a boat load of cross checks and stick infractions (*cough* Trouba *cough*) that were only fines or 1-2 game suspensions. But every one I saw on Twitter have been infractions during the course of play that could be argued as reactionary. This was blatant on purpose with intent during a stoppage of play.
I feel for the TML because they are not wrong when they say that George Parros is very inconsistent in his rulings and you can't pick rhyme or reason out of them. Trouba's should have been 10+ games, not a fine. And it's hard to be considered a repeat offender when the DOPeS are turning a blind eye
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Post by folatre on Feb 13, 2024 19:03:12 GMT -5
I flipped on the NHL Network and they are reporting that Reilly got 5 games.
I have no problem with it. It was a stupid, potentially dangerous crosscheck many seconds after the whistle. Reilly should have given him a two-handed love tap on the upper arm, punched in the face glove on, and then dropped the mitts. If Greig smirked and declined, then that's on him.
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Post by Skilly on Feb 13, 2024 19:31:37 GMT -5
The irony is that IF Rielly dropped the gloves and roughed him up, he’d only have gotten a 1 game suspension for instigating a fight in the last 5 mins of the game. Guess Rielly should have read the “code” book
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Post by CentreHice on Feb 13, 2024 19:34:01 GMT -5
I saw a Leafs' apologist on another platform saying that Rielly's crosscheck was aiming for the shoulder/upper arm, but Greig raised his arm, causing the stick to ramp-up to his face--adding that Friedman argued the same. (I didn't check "Friedman's thoughts" to verify.)
Homers will be homers. 5 games it is.
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Post by Willie Dog on Feb 13, 2024 19:49:56 GMT -5
Unfortunately there is a good chance the leafs will win the 5 games Reilly is out
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Post by seventeen on Feb 14, 2024 0:59:41 GMT -5
No points for Matthews. They didn’t need him.
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Post by Tankdriver on Feb 14, 2024 13:39:28 GMT -5
Now the Leafs are trying to appeal to Bettman for the Reilly suspension...what a joke.
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Post by jkr on Feb 14, 2024 15:20:57 GMT -5
Now the Leafs are trying to appeal to Bettman for the Reilly suspension...what a joke. Cant he just accept his punishment? He crosschecked a guy in the head. Just shut up, serve your time and get back to work. |
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Post by Willie Dog on Feb 14, 2024 16:28:28 GMT -5
Now the Leafs are trying to appeal to Bettman for the Reilly suspension...what a joke. Cant he just accept his punishment? He crosschecked a guy in the head. Just shut up, serve your time and get back to work. I can't stand the leafs but DoPeS are soooo inconsistent https://www.instagram.com/reel/C3TD3C5Ab4B |
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Post by jkr on Feb 14, 2024 16:58:28 GMT -5
I hate how they act like they are always the victim. It would be really funny if Bettman increased the suspension.
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Post by seventeen on Feb 14, 2024 18:42:14 GMT -5
I guess the strategy now, for any NHL team up against a nemesis, is to whack their best players on the ankles or the achilles tendon, or anywhere in the legs to cause extreme discomfort, if not injury and the consequences are zilch or minimal. Just don't sneeze on their head.
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Post by folatre on Feb 14, 2024 22:32:07 GMT -5
Bettman always ghosts appeals when they are in the 5 or under category because I guess, according to the rules in those instances, he is the sole arbiter. So, as I told my brother-in-law this afternoon, there is really not much of a chance that Reilly's appeal yields anything. And to be honest, Keefe's airing angst-filled insinuations about how the league plots to screw Toronto probably will not help the cause.
For a guy with a decade of experience in the league, Reilly just made a dumb choice when other better retaliation choices were available.
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Post by jkr on Feb 15, 2024 8:52:18 GMT -5
The league doesnt need to screw the Leafs. They do a very good job of that on their own. Keefe should keep quiet & concern himself with the fact that his high priced talent is a wild card team.
Between the Tavares tax issue & this appeal they just look like entitled a holes.
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Post by Willie Dog on Feb 15, 2024 11:46:49 GMT -5
Blue jackets fire their GM...
Jarmo Kekalainen is out
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Post by seventeen on Feb 15, 2024 15:36:31 GMT -5
Blue jackets fire their GM... Jarmo Kekalainen is out Rats. Was hoping to take advantage. So John Davidson survives? |
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Post by Willie Dog on Feb 15, 2024 16:41:47 GMT -5
Blue jackets fire their GM... Jarmo Kekalainen is out Rats. Was hoping to take advantage. So John Davidson survives? Ownership thinks he's something special |
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Post by folatre on Feb 15, 2024 16:52:33 GMT -5
Kekalainen had some major trades and signings that blew up in the organization's face, not to mention the Babcock fiasco.
The timing is a little odd, but I can certainly see why ownership came to the conclusion that this guy is just not very good at his job.
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Post by jkr on Feb 15, 2024 20:54:23 GMT -5
McDavid with 2 assists already tonight. He now has 58 to lead the league.
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