|
|
Post by Willie Dog on Nov 4, 2023 8:20:38 GMT -5
If he is not going to have Monahan or Suze as his centre I think he should be sent down to Laval asap... the kid needs a mentor and Newhook/Anderson are not it... he plays fine with Dach but Kirby is gone. If he goes to Laval I would like to see Slaf play with a smart player like Roy, I think Roy could help Slaf a lot, Roy makes players around him better.
|
|
|
|
Post by seventeen on Nov 4, 2023 10:40:55 GMT -5
He needs a boost of confidence, methinks. Sending him down may do exactly that, or if he fails at that level, then what? Unfortunately I'm having some misgivings. But, it's early yet in his career and he's had his share of bumps.
|
|
|
|
Post by Andrew on Nov 4, 2023 11:37:38 GMT -5
He needs a shot with Monahan for a few games.
|
|
|
|
Post by habsorbed on Nov 4, 2023 11:44:02 GMT -5
I agree he needs new line mates and I would give him that before i send him down. Monahan would be the perfect centre for so many reasons but right now our best line is the vet line and Marty doesn't want to break them up. Altho i'd argue who cares about our best line now in this nothing season, and the 3 vets won't be with us 2 years from now. It should be all about youth development, particularly our #1 overall pick.
Other opition is put Slafs with suze and Cole. They haven't been able to find a winger all year so might cure 2 problems. And if Slafs doesn't get some points on that line then AHL is the obvious move.
Dvo is coming back so that may free up Monahan but i don't want Slafs with Dvo.
|
|
|
|
Post by NWTHabsFan on Nov 4, 2023 12:31:05 GMT -5
I am still puzzled why they have kept that dysfunctional second line together so long and not tried Slaf with other linemates. That line without Dach has been a tire fire. Newhook just does not look ready for 2C responsibility at this level yet.
|
|
|
|
Post by Willie Dog on Nov 4, 2023 12:44:32 GMT -5
I am still puzzled why they have kept that dysfunctional second line together so long and not tried Slaf with other linemates. That line without Dach has been a tire fire. Newhook just does not look ready for 2C responsibility at this level yet. Newhook needs a mentor just like slaf, if we had someone who could be 1st line player, newhook and slaf with Monahan might be a great idea... he can mentor both... If dvo is on the 3rd line, I'd move pearson to the top line, have newhook slaf and Monahan and the 3rd line is bgal, dvo and Anderson |
|
|
|
Post by Skilly on Nov 4, 2023 14:18:18 GMT -5
Yes yes yes , let’s blame the guy that only 2 players on the team has more goals than. Only 5 guys has more points than
Perhaps, just perhaps, it is not Newhook dragging the line down, but it is the two wingers. One which doesn’t pass, and the other take forever to process if he’ll shoot or skate into a dead end with
Anyhoo, I agree, the line needs to be broken up, but then you screw up three lines. Right? Or is it just ALL Newhook’s fault ..
|
|
|
|
Post by Skilly on Nov 4, 2023 14:23:10 GMT -5
Sending Slaf to the AHL means he’d be the first 1OA to be sent to the AHL since 1999. It would also mean the team has to come to the realization that Nick Bobrov was wrong in his “hockey historians will rave about this player” and his car salesman pitch where he raved about every Slaf intangible except his on ice play
**edit
The above does not imply I think Slaf is a bust. It refers to Bobrov ranting for 20 mins on how NHL ready Slaf is, without talking about his play on the ice. But he did mention how he met challenges including the Olympics without mentioning there was no NHLers in it and Slaf excelled against the weaker teams
|
|
|
|
Post by Willie Dog on Nov 4, 2023 14:27:52 GMT -5
Yes yes yes , let’s blame the guy that only 2 players on the team has more goals than. Only 5 guys has more points than Perhaps, just perhaps, it is not Newhook dragging the line down, but it is the two wingers. One which doesn’t pass, and the other take forever to process if he’ll shoot or skate into a dead end with Anyhoo, I agree, the line needs to be broken up, but then you screw up three lines. Right? Or is it just ALL Newhook’s fault .. No one is blaming Newhook, I said they both need mentors, they're both young... as for goals, newhook scored 2 goals in the 1st game and 1 in the 3rd so don't tell me he doesn't need help, just like Slaf... Anderson is not the answer for either, newhook is not the answer for slaf and slaf is not the answer for newhook... it's why I would put pearson on the top line he can work the boards and is a smart guy, Newhook and Slaf benefit from Monahan as the 2C and move Anderson with bgal and Dvo |
|
|
|
Post by Skilly on Nov 4, 2023 14:42:33 GMT -5
Yes yes yes , let’s blame the guy that only 2 players on the team has more goals than. Only 5 guys has more points than Perhaps, just perhaps, it is not Newhook dragging the line down, but it is the two wingers. One which doesn’t pass, and the other take forever to process if he’ll shoot or skate into a dead end with Anyhoo, I agree, the line needs to be broken up, but then you screw up three lines. Right? Or is it just ALL Newhook’s fault .. No one is blaming Newhook, I said they both need mentors, they're both young... as for goals, newhook scored 2 goals in the 1st game and 1 in the 3rd so don't tell me he doesn't need help, just like Slaf... Anderson is not the answer for either, newhook is not the answer for slaf and slaf is not the answer for newhook... it's why I would put pearson on the top line he can work the boards and is a smart guy, Newhook and Slaf benefit from Monahan as the 2C and move Anderson with bgal and Dvo Oh I beg to differ that no one is … you might not be But read Twitter (X). And there are some posts on here insinuating that Newhook can’t be a 2C. To that, I’d say, who HAS his wingers produced with this season? Very hard to be an effective Center when your wingers aren’t where they are suppose to be. Grant McCagg got a whole isolated Newhook video trying to lay it at his feet. On HNIC, they show Slaf not fighting on the board and being to slow to read the play … but Mr “if you disagree with me you don’t know hockey” McCagg suggests that Newhook gave the puck away on that play and Slafkovsky had no chance. Riighhttttt. It feels to me that there are an awful lot “experts” who are desperately trying to find things to show their pick/analysis of Slaf was right. Yes he needs to be put on a new line. But it’s mostly because of HIS play not others … if this was any other player they’d move him down the line NOT up. But to me that is improvement, because they should be trying to put him into positions to suceed. But they should be doing that with everyone, not just Slaf (yes, I realize that is what your post implies) .. but others it comes off as punish Newhook to save Slaf |
|
|
|
Post by Skilly on Nov 4, 2023 15:01:06 GMT -5
One think to note
In the Chicago game, Newhook-Monahan-Slafkovsky had three shifts together.
Very small sample size.
|
|
|
|
Post by Willie Dog on Nov 4, 2023 15:12:02 GMT -5
One think to note In the Chicago game, Newhook-Monahan-Slafkovsky had three shifts together. Very small sample size. That's ok... we've had enough sample size of slaf, newhook and Anderson... we all know Anderson cannot be on the top 2 lines regardless of his salary, same with bgal... Regarding X or Twitter or whatever else the moron Musk wants to call it I do not and never will have an account... so I don't see what is being posted... either newhook is on the 2nd line with Monahan, or he's on the 1st line with Suze... pretty simple decision, I prefer him with Monahan who can mentor him at C... I still would like to see Pearson get a shot on the top line, I like what I've seen from him and I think he can help cc and Suze |
|
|
|
Post by Cranky on Nov 4, 2023 16:21:57 GMT -5
Pretty clear that Dach dragged Slaf to another level. With him gone, UNLESS Monahan wants to be saddled with mentoring Slaf, I'm afraid that he's not going to develop the tools to come close to a top 6. Right now, I see Slaf as a 40 point third liner, which is a crime against humanity.
They either send him down, which I always argue is counterproductive, or Manahan has to take him under his wing. Either way, this is not what I expected from a 1OA.
Another solution may be....trade him for Laffy. At this point, it's the same gamble.
|
|
|
|
Post by Cranky on Nov 4, 2023 16:29:43 GMT -5
One think to note In the Chicago game, Newhook-Monahan-Slafkovsky had three shifts together. Very small sample size. That's ok... we've had enough sample size of slaf, newhook and Anderson... we all know Anderson cannot be on the top 2 lines regardless of his salary, same with bgal... Regarding X or Twitter or whatever else the moron Musk wants to call it I do not and never will have an account... so I don't see what is being posted... either newhook is on the 2nd line with Monahan, or he's on the 1st line with Suze... pretty simple decision, I prefer him with Monahan who can mentor him at C... I still would like to see Pearson get a shot on the top line, I like what I've seen from him and I think he can help cc and Suze X has a few great tweeters (2%) and a whole lot of crazy (98%). I follow people in archeology, military and science, the rest of the majority are great on posting 100% triggering nonsense. Of course it lets me vent on CAN/US/Western beloved leadership, which I can't do anywhere else. So it has it's uses. |
|
|
|
Post by jkr on Nov 4, 2023 17:03:23 GMT -5
I'm at a disadvantage because my cable package only allows me to see the Saturday night games. But I've never been impressed by Slafkovsky. I'm not going to moan about Cooley because my thought was that they were going to pick Wright.
But I dont think it's too early to question the management team. I did not like the way Slafkovsky was handled last year. I felt he should have gone to the WJC. I really wanted to see him against his peers - that is fellow 18 years olds.
It's a new season but it's the same story. Slafkovsky is struggling and looks out of his depth & no one has answers.
|
|
|
|
Post by Cranky on Nov 4, 2023 17:14:41 GMT -5
I felt he should have gone to the WJC. I really wanted to see him against his peers - that is fellow 18 years olds. In hindsight, I wonder WHY he wasn't allowed to go. Something tells me that management was concerned he would be a disaster and his confidence damaged even more. This isn't going well. Dach is gone for the season, Slaf is going nowhere fast, RHP is looking like midnight came for Cinderella, Newhook isn't Dach 2...we're one injury to Monahan/CC/Suzuki away from express elevator to the bottom. |
|
|
|
Post by Skilly on Nov 4, 2023 18:16:35 GMT -5
Well tonight Slafkovskÿ is with Suzuki and Caufield ... no excuses starting tonight. I hope the kid shines, because if not, he may never get his confidence once the media jumps on board.
So, how many games grace period does he now get .... given the fact he really has had 49 games grace already?
|
|
|
|
Post by NWTHabsFan on Nov 4, 2023 20:35:53 GMT -5
Yes yes yes , let’s blame the guy that only 2 players on the team has more goals than. Only 5 guys has more points than Perhaps, just perhaps, it is not Newhook dragging the line down, but it is the two wingers. One which doesn’t pass, and the other take forever to process if he’ll shoot or skate into a dead end with Anyhoo, I agree, the line needs to be broken up, but then you screw up three lines. Right? Or is it just ALL Newhook’s fault .. I like Newhook. He is very fast and has a great shot. He is also good when he is not forced to drive the play and take the D responsibilities at centre. When he can play to his strengths on the wing, where his speed and shot excel, he is worth the price paid. The problem is the same with Slaf. For a number of games with no adjustment, the coaches are not putting either of these guys in the best position to succeed and gain confidence. For young guys with lots still to learn, this is a concern. |
|
|
|
Post by folatre on Nov 5, 2023 19:48:51 GMT -5
Notwithstanding that the group outperformed expectations in the standings (not to mention expected goals against) through the first 10 games of the season, I think the reality is that this team is not yet close to being good enough to stay for months in the hunt for the playoffs. Therefore, if management is not willing to send Slafkovsky down to Laval, then the smartest alternative is to give the kid a long extended look with Suzuki and Caufield. If Dach had not been lost to injury, it would have been awesome to keep Slafkovsky and Newhook on Dach's wings. But it is what it is.
|
|
:quality(70)/cloudfront-us-east-1.images.arcpublishing.com/archetype/6F6VF25GCFF2HFJCOITRJSGNPE.jpg)
