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Post by Andrew on Nov 24, 2023 17:54:05 GMT -5
We hsve been remarkably unlucky in that the three high picks we have had in a 10 year period all coincided with the worst talent levels of that decade. Not once did we hit a year with a generational player or even a franchise one. We always had a pick just after the top guys were gone or there weren’t any obvious top guys. Its not always great drafting. Even the Oilers knew enough to pick McDavid. The 3rd pick in 2017 for example, could have been Heiskanen, Makar or Pettersson. But not us. We can’t have nice things. Pretty frustrating. Especially when you see teams like Chicago, Tampa or the Pens getting hall of famers when it's their turn to bottom out on a high pick. Maybe we'll get lucky some year with a Robertson or Pastrnak type of pick. |
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Post by drkcloud on Nov 24, 2023 18:05:44 GMT -5
We hsve been remarkably unlucky in that the three high picks we have had in a 10 year period all coincided with the worst talent levels of that decade. Not once did we hit a year with a generational player or even a franchise one. We always had a pick just after the top guys were gone or there weren’t any obvious top guys. Its not always great drafting. Even the Oilers knew enough to pick McDavid. The 3rd pick in 2017 for example, could have been Heiskanen, Makar or Pettersson. But not us. We can’t have nice things. Quinn Hughes was on the board and we went for KK, nvm Tkachuk.. then we made it worse by turning KK into Dvo the Black Hole. Took Slaf over Cooley who could well be a 50 or 60 point player in his first season We are masters of our own destiny |
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Post by Andrew on Nov 24, 2023 18:17:03 GMT -5
We hsve been remarkably unlucky in that the three high picks we have had in a 10 year period all coincided with the worst talent levels of that decade. Not once did we hit a year with a generational player or even a franchise one. We always had a pick just after the top guys were gone or there weren’t any obvious top guys. Its not always great drafting. Even the Oilers knew enough to pick McDavid. The 3rd pick in 2017 for example, could have been Heiskanen, Makar or Pettersson. But not us. We can’t have nice things. Quinn Hughes was on the board and we went for KK, nvm Tkachuk.. then we made it worse by turning KK into Dvo the Black Hole. Took Slaf over Cooley who could well be a 50 or 60 point player in his first season We are masters of our own destiny I'm optimistic with Slaf. He's quietly put up 4 points in his last 5 and looked good out there with CC and Dvorak. He's still only 59 games into his career, much of which was spent adapting to NHL speed and rink-size. |
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Post by Skilly on Nov 24, 2023 18:24:59 GMT -5
We hsve been remarkably unlucky in that the three high picks we have had in a 10 year period all coincided with the worst talent levels of that decade. Not once did we hit a year with a generational player or even a franchise one. We always had a pick just after the top guys were gone or there weren’t any obvious top guys. Its not always great drafting. Even the Oilers knew enough to pick McDavid. The 3rd pick in 2017 for example, could have been Heiskanen, Makar or Pettersson. But not us. We can’t have nice things. That’s simply not true. Brady Tkachuk AND Quinn Hughes are elite. Hughes might even be a franchise player. We could have had one of those We also could have had one of Filip Forsberg, Jacob Trouba or Morgan Reilly … Forsberg is elite It’s way too early to evaluate our #1 pick. We could have the best player. But our draft boards from 2012 and 2018 were just misses |
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Post by Skilly on Nov 24, 2023 18:28:13 GMT -5
Juraj had the game on his stick and came up short
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Post by Skilly on Nov 24, 2023 18:28:52 GMT -5
Juraj had the game on his stick and came up short Dvorak had the game on his stick and … yeah came up short too |
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Post by seventeen on Nov 24, 2023 18:29:44 GMT -5
Just saw the goals on Sportscentre. Nice play by Struble to move in and draw Sharks to him before passing to Kovacevic who now had more space to move in further.
Good outlet pass from Slaf to Cole. He was never going to pass it to Dvorak. You could tell that when they got to the blue line and he kept the puck. 🤣
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Post by Skilly on Nov 24, 2023 18:30:56 GMT -5
Ylonen dekes the goalie out of his jock strap and fires it in with authority
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Post by seventeen on Nov 24, 2023 18:32:57 GMT -5
Ylonen. Hugely under appreciated. I keep pumping his tires for a reason besides a unique name.
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Post by NWTHabsFan on Nov 24, 2023 18:34:27 GMT -5
Ylonen. Hugely under appreciated. I keep pumping his tires for a reason besides a unique name. What a friggin’ move. Best to keep him on a lower line and play the heck out of Anderson…said nobody not behind the Habs bench. Keeper! |
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Post by NWTHabsFan on Nov 24, 2023 18:35:23 GMT -5
Just saw the goals on Sportscentre. Nice play by Struble to move in and draw Sharks to him before passing to Kovacevic who now had more space to move in further. Good outlet pass from Slaf to Cole. He was never going to pass it to Dvorak. You could tell that when they got to the blue line and he kept the puck. 🤣 First NHL point for Struble too. |
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Post by Skilly on Nov 24, 2023 18:35:33 GMT -5
Another OT victory , against the dregs of the league
Chapeau 🙄
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Post by NWTHabsFan on Nov 24, 2023 18:37:27 GMT -5
Another OT victory , against the dregs of the league Chapeau 🙄 They hardly ever win there…so, baby steps. Even Skinner got a shutout today, so anything is possible. |
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Post by Andrew on Nov 24, 2023 18:40:08 GMT -5
Ylonen dekes the goalie out of his jock strap and fires it in with authority Begs the question: why the heck did MSL send Dvorak over the boards to shoot before Ylonen. |
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Post by Willie Dog on Nov 24, 2023 18:54:00 GMT -5
Ylonen dekes the goalie out of his jock strap and fires it in with authority Begs the question: why the heck did MSL send Dvorak over the boards to shoot before Ylonen. U can't upset the vets |
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Post by folatre on Nov 24, 2023 21:41:46 GMT -5
I would have been embarrassing to lose a team with something like eight points at the quarter-mark of the season, so props to the boys for digging in and playing well in the second half of the game this afternoon.
Primeau was not exactly facing a foe that excels offensively, but considering the Habs lack of defensive cohesion and overall discipline, I thought he stood tall and was plenty deserving of the win.
Ylonen is sneaky good in the SO situation. That does not make him a high-end offensive talent or even a top-six hopeful. After all, Byron was money in shootouts and I generally thought he was pretty bad with the puck on his stick in most real hockey situations that transpired during a game. However, I would say that Ylonen is clarifying the question of whether he is just some sort of tweener or an NHLer. I think he can play in the league, though normally in a bottom-six/PK type role.
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Post by Disgruntled70sHab on Nov 25, 2023 0:23:35 GMT -5
Ylonen. Hugely under appreciated. I keep pumping his tires for a reason besides a unique name. What a friggin’ move. Best to keep him on a lower line and play the heck out of Anderson…said nobody not behind the Habs bench. Keeper! |
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Post by drkcloud on Nov 25, 2023 1:17:07 GMT -5
I would have been embarrassing to lose a team with something like eight points at the quarter-mark of the season, so props to the boys for digging in and playing well in the second half of the game this afternoon. Primeau was not exactly facing a foe that excels offensively, but considering the Habs lack of defensive cohesion and overall discipline, I thought he stood tall and was plenty deserving of the win. Ylonen is sneaky good in the SO situation. That does not make him a high-end offensive talent or even a top-six hopeful. After all, Byron was money in shootouts and I generally thought he was pretty bad with the puck on his stick in most real hockey situations that transpired during a game. However, I would say that Ylonen is clarifying the question of whether he is just some sort of tweener or an NHLer. I think he can play in the league, though normally in a bottom-six/PK type role. If that's his ceiling, I consider this another drafting whiff. High second round choice, 35th overall. He needs to be given the same chance as other less deserving players. Cough Anderson Cough |
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Post by habsorbed on Nov 25, 2023 1:59:41 GMT -5
I would have been embarrassing to lose a team with something like eight points at the quarter-mark of the season, so props to the boys for digging in and playing well in the second half of the game this afternoon. Primeau was not exactly facing a foe that excels offensively, but considering the Habs lack of defensive cohesion and overall discipline, I thought he stood tall and was plenty deserving of the win. Ylonen is sneaky good in the SO situation. That does not make him a high-end offensive talent or even a top-six hopeful. After all, Byron was money in shootouts and I generally thought he was pretty bad with the puck on his stick in most real hockey situations that transpired during a game. However, I would say that Ylonen is clarifying the question of whether he is just some sort of tweener or an NHLer. I think he can play in the league, though normally in a bottom-six/PK type role. Is disappointing we needed OT and a good game from Primeau to beat the pathetic Sharks. And they are pathetic. Perhaps we can sell it to ourselves as playing down to our opponent  Bright spots were 1) Slafs who is getting better by the game: much more poise, getting engaged smartly and could have been the hero if he dodn't surprise himself; 2) Primeau with a strong game which will hopefully help his confidence, especially with all those shoot out saves; and 3) I haven't given up on Ylo being a top 6, and certainly a contributor on top 9. His shoot out goal was not only magic, but what I liked about it is the calm, almost matter of fact manner in which he pulled it off. And not to be forgotten was Strubs with another strong game and his first NHL point on a beauty! |
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Post by Skilly on Nov 25, 2023 10:53:57 GMT -5
Ylonen dekes the goalie out of his jock strap and fires it in with authority Begs the question: why the heck did MSL send Dvorak over the boards to shoot before Ylonen. The question that needs begging and answering is why was Ylonen stapled to the bench for the last 25 mins of the game? You read that right. Jesse Ylonen's last shift was in the 14th minute of the second period and then he didn't see the ice again. Kinda explains that emphatic shot into the wide open cage in the shootout, and his non-celebration. |
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Post by halihab on Nov 25, 2023 11:06:32 GMT -5
Ylonen. Hugely under appreciated. I keep pumping his tires for a reason besides a unique name. He should have a stint on the top line. Very good all around player. |
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Post by jkr on Nov 25, 2023 11:23:11 GMT -5
Begs the question: why the heck did MSL send Dvorak over the boards to shoot before Ylonen. The question that needs begging and answering is why was Ylonen stapled to the bench for the last 25 mins of the game? You read that right. Jesse Ylonen's last shift was in the 14th minute of the second period and then he didn't see the ice again. Kinda explains that emphatic shot into the wide open cage in the shootout, and his non-celebration. I wondered about that laser into the empty net too. He should be playing a lot more than Anderson. I'm really baffled about why Josh Anderson is still in the lineup on a regular basis and plays in situations where the team really needs a goal. After 20 games he is on pace for eight points, all assists. And he still has 4 years left, including this one, on that 5.5 million dollar deal. |
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Post by Willie Dog on Nov 25, 2023 11:46:47 GMT -5
Ylonen. Hugely under appreciated. I keep pumping his tires for a reason besides a unique name. He should have a stint on the top line. Very good all around player. I think he got 1 game with Suze and CC earlier in the year... others get multiple games |
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Post by Willie Dog on Nov 25, 2023 11:57:10 GMT -5
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