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Post by drkcloud on Dec 1, 2023 18:18:42 GMT -5
So many 4th liners in the pipeline..
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Post by folatre on Dec 1, 2023 19:00:40 GMT -5
Yeah, it is what it is. He is an AHL lifer, and not really offensively prolific down there. I guess he can get a game here or there if St. Louis wants to park Pezzetta or Armia in the pressbox on occasion.
In reality, the organizational pipeline lacks offensive difference-makers. I am bullish on Beck and Roy, less so on Farrell and Mesar. But no one in the prospect pool appears to possess the kind of talent that opponents will literally have to scheme around how to contain so and so.
But, in general, I hope Montreal does not add a high first round pick d-man to the prospect pool this summer. Though at the same time, Bobrov picking forwards in the top 10 scares me too, given his track record.
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Post by PTH on Dec 1, 2023 20:26:23 GMT -5
Yeah, it is what it is. He is an AHL lifer, and not really offensively prolific down there. I guess he can get a game here or there if St. Louis wants to park Pezzetta or Armia in the pressbox on occasion. In reality, the organizational pipeline lacks offensive difference-makers. I am bullish on Beck and Roy, less so on Farrell and Mesar. But no one in the prospect pool appears to possess the kind of talent that opponents will literally have to scheme around how to contain so and so. But, in general, I hope Montreal does not add a high first round pick d-man to the prospect pool this summer. Though at the same time, Bobrov picking forwards in the top 10 scares me too, given his track record. The team needs to add at least one more high-end talent up front, Slaf, Suz, Dach and Caufield aren't going to be enough on their own. And Roy and Beck seem closer to mid-level players than top-liners. Conversely, the crunch on D is coming soon, and I wonder who gets moved... Struble is looking like more of an NHLer than wifi, and with Hutson coming up as well, Harris and Xhekaj should be wondering if they're going to have roster spots if everyone is healthy. I wonder what kind of forward we could get for Harris, with a year and a half on a contract, so teams can decide if he's someone to commit to long-term. Ever since Romanov got moved, I figure anyone can go, and even Guhle might be available given the glut on D (though the reason to move Guhle is to add some high-end talent up front, that Harris just won't fetch). |
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Post by folatre on Dec 1, 2023 22:38:56 GMT -5
For sure, there is a looming logjam on defense in the not so distant future. I think someone would have to blow the doors off Hughes' office to get him to trade Guhle. I love his two-way game, but you have to give to get, so I would not call him 'untouchable.' For that matter, I would not classify any player on the Habs roster or in the prospect pipeline as untouchable.
With no crystal ball, I would say Harris could be vulnerable to the numbers game within the next 12 months. Xhekaj is far from perfect but he will always have the huge advantage in roster construction decisions given that he can simply plateau in a third pair role where he is the Sheriff keeping opponents wary about stepping out of line.
I am totally unsure of what Harris' trade value would be. He certainly looks like a young d-man who has done nothing to raise major doubts about whether or not he can be a regular NHLer. He is cost-controlled. I guess it depends on whether other teams think he is crafty enough to play a quiet, effective 20 minute a night game or whether he is a just more like a nice third pair type.
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Post by Cranky on Dec 2, 2023 0:49:19 GMT -5
So is this guy like the forgotten Tupperware with a piece of meat in the back of the fridge?
This reminds me of the Patrick Traverse days were we pretended we had an NHL team.
Thank God we can take a joke...decades of jokes....
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Post by Cranky on Dec 2, 2023 0:50:48 GMT -5
For sure, there is a looming logjam on defense in the not so distant future. I think someone would have to blow the doors off Hughes' office to get him to trade Guhle. I love his two-way game, but you have to give to get, so I would not call him 'untouchable.' For that matter, I would not classify any player on the Habs roster or in the prospect pipeline as untouchable. With no crystal ball, I would say Harris could be vulnerable to the numbers game within the next 12 months. Xhekaj is far from perfect but he will always have the huge advantage in roster construction decisions given that he can simply plateau in a third pair role where he is the Sheriff keeping opponents wary about stepping out of line. I am totally unsure of what Harris' trade value would be. He certainly looks like a young d-man who has done nothing to raise major doubts about whether or not he can be a regular NHLer. He is cost-controlled. I guess it depends on whether other teams think he is crafty enough to play a quiet, effective 20 minute a night game or whether he is a just more like a nice third pair type. What would you trade for him to come to the Habs? A third rounder? Late 2nd. Same thing in reverse. |
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Post by PTH on Dec 2, 2023 14:29:50 GMT -5
... With no crystal ball, I would say Harris could be vulnerable to the numbers game within the next 12 months. Xhekaj is far from perfect but he will always have the huge advantage in roster construction decisions given that he can simply plateau in a third pair role where he is the Sheriff keeping opponents wary about stepping out of line..... I guess it depends on whether other teams think he is crafty enough to play a quiet, effective 20 minute a night game or whether he is a just more like a nice third pair type. I think it will play out over 12 weeks more than 12 months. The second Hutson is willing to sign, someone has to get moved. Struble can always be sent back down, but that still leaves too many LD. Xhekaj has been showing his limitations this season, so I'd be more open to moving him than other people might be. On a team without superstars, you need the best all-around players you can lower down the lineup, and specialists just aren't manageable. And unless Xhekaj's reads on D improve, he's a specialist. |
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Post by Cranky on Dec 2, 2023 15:00:07 GMT -5
We had Pierre Bouchard on the greatest hockey team to ever lace them...so an X type player is always going to be needed.
X and Mailman aren't the swiftest hockey minds, but they can play in a more structured enviroment. Actually, the whole team needs it.
Less decision making and more structure. That is a thing... even in beer league.
Right now, if the Habs don't get MSL some quality help to improve the Habs defensive play, i would be starting the clock on MSL.
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Post by Skilly on Dec 2, 2023 15:20:54 GMT -5
This guy is being brought, not to develop, but because he is expendable.
Roy has struggled lately, so no need to bring him up and give him a slap to his ego if it goes south. Plus, why risk exposing him to the Montreal injury jinx as well
There is no thought process here to developing a 26 yr old AHL lifer
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Post by Willie Dog on Dec 2, 2023 15:52:09 GMT -5
... With no crystal ball, I would say Harris could be vulnerable to the numbers game within the next 12 months. Xhekaj is far from perfect but he will always have the huge advantage in roster construction decisions given that he can simply plateau in a third pair role where he is the Sheriff keeping opponents wary about stepping out of line..... I guess it depends on whether other teams think he is crafty enough to play a quiet, effective 20 minute a night game or whether he is a just more like a nice third pair type. I think it will play out over 12 weeks more than 12 months. The second Hutson is willing to sign, someone has to get moved. Struble can always be sent back down, but that still leaves too many LD. Xhekaj has been showing his limitations this season, so I'd be more open to moving him than other people might be. On a team without superstars, you need the best all-around players you can lower down the lineup, and specialists just aren't manageable. And unless Xhekaj's reads on D improve, he's a specialist. I would get rid of Matheson and chaosevic before Arber... we could get something decent for Matheson but not a lot for chaos... In 2 years I figure we would have the following.. On the left we have Guhle Xhekaj Hutson Struble On the right we have Mailloux Reinbacher Barron I would be ok with trying X as a forward, I think he would excel as a 3rd line winger along with little X on the 4th line give us some jam on the lower 2 lines. Dach and Slaf will have some jam in 2 years but the 1st line is missing some Cc-Suze-?? Slaf-Dach-?? X-Beck-?? x-??-Pezz Maybe Mesar on the 2nd line, Maybe Roy on the 1st, he has the IQ for it Guhle-Mailloux Hutson-Reinbacher Struble-Barron Lidstron/norlinder Chaosevic, Harris, Savard, Matheson would be traded |
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Post by Disgruntled70sHab on Dec 3, 2023 21:25:33 GMT -5
We had Pierre Bouchard on the greatest hockey team to ever lace them...so an X type player is always going to be needed. Don't forget Gilles Lupien, Rick Chartraw, and Larry Robinson ... and, just to piss them off they'd throw Doug Reisbrough, and Mario Tremblay on to the ice ... heck, even Guy Lapointe to drop the gloves if he had to ... Nick Suzuki points out a pattern ... Cheers. |
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