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Post by Willie Dog on Jan 11, 2024 21:28:28 GMT -5
So Struble waits for everyone to change. Waits way to long and someone forechecks him. Passes the puck behind the net and Guhle has to reach for it. Another Shark forecheck Guhle who nearly loses it but manages to get it to a wide open Gallagher along the boards who can easily move the puck out if the zone. But nooe. He decides to pass it back to a covered Guhle and the Habs lose possession. The Habs have been doing this all year. It’s why they can’t clear their zone. It’s always the hero pass back into the zone and not the easy play It's like they think they are on the pp all the time ffs... instead of moving the puck forward they back pass... so stupid |
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Post by Willie Dog on Jan 11, 2024 21:31:23 GMT -5
Watch the dummies come back and tie it
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Post by Willie Dog on Jan 11, 2024 21:34:55 GMT -5
They take a timeout, MSL is talking, he stops and Burrows starts flapping his gums
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Post by Skilly on Jan 11, 2024 21:35:16 GMT -5
Caufield is afraid to shoot … ffs
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Post by Willie Dog on Jan 11, 2024 21:35:32 GMT -5
Caufield doesn't shoot anymore
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Post by Skilly on Jan 11, 2024 21:37:24 GMT -5
Slafkovsky with 2 flappers from the high slot. Both missed the net.
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Post by Willie Dog on Jan 11, 2024 21:39:49 GMT -5
Woohoo we lose and Buffalo win.
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Post by Skilly on Jan 11, 2024 21:39:50 GMT -5
Where was this passing all game?
Be nice if one of them could hit the net though . Incredible how this team cant get a puck to the net
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Post by Disgruntled70sHab on Jan 11, 2024 21:46:52 GMT -5
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Post by CentreHice on Jan 11, 2024 22:05:12 GMT -5
The boys are trying their best, but at the present stage of development there's still no top-end talent in bloom on this team. Zero consistent game-changers. We are what our point total says we are. Inflated a bit by some great goaltending performances...but all teams get those on occasion. Monty almost got us another undeserved point tonight with a 3rd star performance. Still only 8 regulation wins thus far. (Thanks for that sobering stat, Skilly.  ) |
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Post by seventeen on Jan 11, 2024 22:13:23 GMT -5
So Struble waits for everyone to change. Waits way to long and someone forechecks him. Passes the puck behind the net and Guhle has to reach for it. Another Shark forecheck Guhle who nearly loses it but manages to get it to a wide open Gallagher along the boards who can easily move the puck out if the zone. But nooe. He decides to pass it back to a covered Guhle and the Habs lose possession. The Habs have been doing this all year. It’s why they can’t clear their zone. It’s always the hero pass back into the zone and not the easy play Are the other guys moving into a position to take a pass? One if my mantras (in soccer but it applies to hockey too) is that the guy with the puck should have the easiest job. They should have options a, b and c. What they choose is where they’re judged. The guys without the ouck have to create options a, b and c by moving to the open. If Gallagher had other forward moving options and went back, he chose poorly. Going back wastes time and space. Unless its a line change of course. |
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Post by Disgruntled70sHab on Jan 11, 2024 22:25:44 GMT -5
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Post by Willie Dog on Jan 11, 2024 22:31:24 GMT -5
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Post by drkcloud on Jan 11, 2024 22:43:26 GMT -5
RHP returns tonight, Heineman to sit out. Why we don't sit a useless vet like Armia is beyond me Heineman sent back to Laval.. |
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Post by habsorbed on Jan 12, 2024 1:33:16 GMT -5
Well, a loss in this one will be a clear signal to management to get on with the tank. Dump as many of the vets as you can: Monahan, Gally, Josh, Savard, Allen. Along those lines, I'm liking watching Heiny and Ylolee play, particularly together. They're raw but they can skate and have some offensive abilites and thought process. Can we get on with the tank please. Who's kidding who? That was one of the worst games we've played. Our goalie had to be a star to prevent us from getting slaughtered by the worst team in the league. And the Oil are up next. Will they get a 10 spot? |
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Post by PTH on Jan 12, 2024 2:20:36 GMT -5
RHP returns tonight, Heineman to sit out. Why we don't sit a useless vet like Armia is beyond me Heineman sent back to Laval.. I think he was an emergency recall and as such had to be the first forward sent down. BTW, anyone else notice the top line getting benched in the 2nd ? MSL had to be seriously fed up to do without 3 of his roughly 6 actual NHL forwards... |
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Post by jkr on Jan 12, 2024 6:55:49 GMT -5
RHP returns tonight, Heineman to sit out. Why we don't sit a useless vet like Armia is beyond me Heineman sent back to Laval.. I'm not expecting much. RHP was doing very little when he was playing. |
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Post by seventeen on Jan 12, 2024 11:04:11 GMT -5
Heineman sent back to Laval.. I'm not expecting much. RHP was doing very little when he was playing. Typical of a guy coming off an injury. That first game is usually rough. |
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Post by Skilly on Jan 12, 2024 13:04:01 GMT -5
So we currently sit with the 8th overall selection and the 60th overall selection in this years draft.
*** side note: this has to be the earliest ever I started looking at prospects draft rankings . 😡
I was looking at the Central Scouting Bureau’s recently released prospect rankings. There have been some notable risers and fallers
Cayden Lidstrom is now ranked 3rd in North American skaters. Was hoping we’d get him, but looks like he’ll be a top 3 selection
Ivan Demidov is ranked 3rd in European skaters. He is looking to be available right around our selection
Cole Eiserman has slipped to 8th in North American skaters
Berkly Catton is now ranked 9th in North American skaters
And Aatos Koivu is ranked 30th in European skaters. Which means he could be available with our 60th pick (from Avalanche)
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Post by jkr on Jan 12, 2024 13:41:46 GMT -5
I'm not expecting much. RHP was doing very little when he was playing. Typical of a guy coming off an injury. That first game is usually rough. I was referring to pre injury. No goals, 4 assists. |
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Post by Willie Dog on Jan 12, 2024 14:06:21 GMT -5
So we currently sit with the 8th overall selection and the 60th overall selection in this years draft. *** side note: this has to be the earliest ever I started looking at prospects draft rankings . 😡 I was looking at the Central Scouting Bureau’s recently released prospect rankings. There have been some notable risers and fallers Cayden Lidstrom is now ranked 3rd in North American skaters. Was hoping we’d get him, but looks like he’ll be a top 3 selection Ivan Demidov is ranked 3rd in European skaters. He is looking to be available right around our selection Cole Eiserman has slipped to 8th in North American skaters Berkly Catton is now ranked 9th in North American skaters And Aatos Koivu is ranked 30th in European skaters. Which means he could be available with our 60th pick (from Avalanche) I was hoping for Cayden Lindstrom |
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Post by seventeen on Jan 12, 2024 14:25:43 GMT -5
So we currently sit with the 8th overall selection and the 60th overall selection in this years draft. *** side note: this has to be the earliest ever I started looking at prospects draft rankings . 😡 I was looking at the Central Scouting Bureau’s recently released prospect rankings. There have been some notable risers and fallers Cayden Lidstrom is now ranked 3rd in North American skaters. Was hoping we’d get him, but looks like he’ll be a top 3 selection Ivan Demidov is ranked 3rd in European skaters. He is looking to be available right around our selection Cole Eiserman has slipped to 8th in North American skaters Berkly Catton is now ranked 9th in North American skaters And Aatos Koivu is ranked 30th in European skaters. Which means he could be available with our 60th pick (from Avalanche) I don't use NHL central scouting as a resource. It's not hard for them to get the first few right, but as soon as there' any uncertainty....also they don't combine their results so if Europe is weak one year, who knows where those kids slot overall? And then some teams just have wildly different opinions from Central. I think Central weighs how good they are now, more than where they might be in 5 years. Here are some variances noted last year. They got the top 3 NA skaters right in Bedard, Fantilli and Smith. That was pretty well a consensus. But then they rank Matthew Wood ahead of Leonard and Benson. I doubt any NHL team had Wood that high up, or at least very few did. In the International category, they had Danil But at #9 and Dmitri Simashev not even in the top 10, but they went at #12 overall and 6th overall respectively. A bit of a surprise, even to other teams, but they are both big, Russian and have some skill. Bill Armstrong has a good track record with his picks, but he's projecting here, probably much like Bobrov did with Slafkovsky. Anyway, the point is that NHL Central Scouting diverts quite a bit from what actually happens at a draft. Having said that, I'm seeing more that Demidov has moved down from top 3 to where we might pick and Lindstrom has moved up from where we might pick to the top 5 area. Catton is also a guy who might be there in the 7-10 position. I saw him play at the U-18's and he outscored Celebrini. He's not flashy, but makes a lot of high skilled plays. There should be some proven scorers at our spot, especially if more D-men move up. |
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Post by Skilly on Jan 12, 2024 17:49:15 GMT -5
So we currently sit with the 8th overall selection and the 60th overall selection in this years draft. *** side note: this has to be the earliest ever I started looking at prospects draft rankings . 😡 I was looking at the Central Scouting Bureau’s recently released prospect rankings. There have been some notable risers and fallers Cayden Lidstrom is now ranked 3rd in North American skaters. Was hoping we’d get him, but looks like he’ll be a top 3 selection Ivan Demidov is ranked 3rd in European skaters. He is looking to be available right around our selection Cole Eiserman has slipped to 8th in North American skaters Berkly Catton is now ranked 9th in North American skaters And Aatos Koivu is ranked 30th in European skaters. Which means he could be available with our 60th pick (from Avalanche) I don't use NHL central scouting as a resource. It's not hard for them to get the first few right, but as soon as there' any uncertainty....also they don't combine their results so if Europe is weak one year, who knows where those kids slot overall? And then some teams just have wildly different opinions from Central. I think Central weighs how good they are now, more than where they might be in 5 years. Here are some variances noted last year. They got the top 3 NA skaters right in Bedard, Fantilli and Smith. That was pretty well a consensus. But then they rank Matthew Wood ahead of Leonard and Benson. I doubt any NHL team had Wood that high up, or at least very few did. In the International category, they had Danil But at #9 and Dmitri Simashev not even in the top 10, but they went at #12 overall and 6th overall respectively. A bit of a surprise, even to other teams, but they are both big, Russian and have some skill. Bill Armstrong has a good track record with his picks, but he's projecting here, probably much like Bobrov did with Slafkovsky. Anyway, the point is that NHL Central Scouting diverts quite a bit from what actually happens at a draft. Having said that, I'm seeing more that Demidov has moved down from top 3 to where we might pick and Lindstrom has moved up from where we might pick to the top 5 area. Catton is also a guy who might be there in the 7-10 position. I saw him play at the U-18's and he outscored Celebrini. He's not flashy, but makes a lot of high skilled plays. There should be some proven scorers at our spot, especially if more D-men move up. This can be said of any draft ranking. Teams always surprise by drafting someone out of the blue pretty high. But that doesn't mean CSB got it wrong. For instance, Kotkaniemi was ranked 6th in European skaters, but was drafted 3rd overall (2nd European). Perhaps the Habs reached here and should have followed the ranking list and selected Tkachuck Last year, David "Hey Carey my name is" Reinbacher was selected 5th overall (2nd European) He was ranked as the 5th best European. Did we reach again? Every ranking list can be cherry picked. Even the combined ones. I saw the CSB on Twitter, and with Eiserman at 8th in North American skaters I thought that could slide him to around 12-13th overall and thought it noteworthy. 🤷♂️ |
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Post by seventeen on Jan 12, 2024 21:21:05 GMT -5
This can be said of any draft ranking. Bob Mckenzie comes pretty darn close to nailing the actual drafting that rascal. |
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Post by Skilly on Jan 12, 2024 21:29:19 GMT -5
This can be said of any draft ranking. Bob Mckenzie comes pretty darn close to nailing the actual drafting. He only ranks 16 until the end. Try and find his current rankings? On his pre season ranking he didn't even have Cayden Lidstrom in the top 16 He does his research at the END. Let's see if he releases a mid season ranking and then compare But just looking at his last years top ten final rankings He had Gabe Perreault ranked 10th, he was selected 23rd Dmitry Simashev was selected 6th, wasn't even on McKenzie's top He had Reinbacher at 8, we selected him 5th You can cherry pick any draft ranking |
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