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Post by Willie Dog on Jan 22, 2024 18:02:29 GMT -5
Wifi is baaaaack In another thread I said Arber coming back wasn't about his point totals but in 17 games in Laval he had 3 goals and 8 assists. Attachments:
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Post by Skilly on Jan 22, 2024 18:18:28 GMT -5
I was a day early on this 😝
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Post by folatre on Jan 22, 2024 18:38:06 GMT -5
I like it. He played well for the Rocket and arguably gave the boys down there some inspiration and swagger.
Barron needs to play big minutes and learn how to kill danger in his own end quicker. I am sure he will be back. All of the young guys who are waiver exempt, perhaps aside from Guhle, are liable to take a tour of duty in Laval because none of them are playing flawless.
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Post by seventeen on Jan 23, 2024 0:17:33 GMT -5
Mitchell Stephens was waived instead of Roy being sent back. I was both surprised and not. The management message has all along been that Roy would spend most if not all of the season in Laval (and he might yet be sent back when Newhook is healthy), but I think that zone entry when he made that slick pass to Monahan was the moment which changed their minds. He has acclimated to the NHL speed and as usual with him, he improves every line he's on. After the first 2 games (both in Montreal which probably increased the nervous meter for him), Roy looks like an NHL forward and potentially a very good one. His stick work is really good and in many ways, he reminds me of Mark Stone. Not a great skater, but adequate. Exceptional anticipation, stick checker and passer. I like him a lot and am pleased he is getting to play more games. Who knows? If he puts up some solid point totals someone else will have to leave when Newhook returns, or maybe space will be opened up by a trade. I am looking forward to more solid play from Mr. Roy.
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Post by seventeen on Jan 23, 2024 0:18:02 GMT -5
I was a day early on this 😝 Like my stock trades. |
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Post by seventeen on Jan 23, 2024 0:23:28 GMT -5
I like it. He played well for the Rocket and arguably gave the boys down there some inspiration and swagger. Barron needs to play big minutes and learn how to kill danger in his own end quicker. I am sure he will be back. All of the young guys who are waiver exempt, perhaps aside from Guhle, are liable to take a tour of duty in Laval because none of them are playing flawless. It seemed to me that anyone paired with Barron, had their play get worse. I get that. When you can't predict what your partner will do, or when he coughs up the puck for no reason and you get a minus out of it, it's difficult to make the right plays yourself. I am so curious to see if the defense, as a whole (with the possible exception of Savard and his partner), picks up their game. I may be putting too much blame on Mr. Barron. |
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Post by habsorbed on Jan 23, 2024 1:14:48 GMT -5
Barron gives a good first impression as he has some skill. But after watching him a little longer one realizes how clueless he is. To be that clueless and not end up in the AHL one needs to be exceptional at some other aspect of the game, usually providing offence or physicality. Matheson is equally as clueless but his skating is magnificent so he ends up beng an asset, barely. Right now, Barron is a liability and i don't see him being able to overcome his low thought process.
X, although lacking in some areas of the game, can bring the physicality like no one on the roster, and few in the league. X can play on any team as the 6th dman because of his unique attribute. But I'm hoping he can actually be a ligit top 4 as, aside from his physicality, he skates well and can shoot the puck.
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Post by Willie Dog on Jan 23, 2024 8:44:37 GMT -5
Barron gives a good first impression as he has some skill. But after watching him a little longer one realizes how clueless he is. To be that clueless and not end up in the AHL one needs to be exceptional at some other aspect of the game, usually providing offence or physicality. Matheson is equally as clueless but his skating is magnificent so he ends up beng an asset, barely. Right now, Barron is a liability and i don't see him being able to overcome his low thought process. X, although lacking in some areas of the game, can bring the physicality like no one on the roster, and few in the league. X can play on any team as the 6th dman because of his unique attribute. But I'm hoping he can actually be a ligit top 4 as, aside from his physicality, he skates well and can shoot the puck. He usually gets the puck on the net from the point |
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Post by Cranky on Jan 23, 2024 10:20:39 GMT -5
Who's carrying the mail?
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Post by Willie Dog on Jan 23, 2024 12:51:47 GMT -5
I guess Barron will be paired with the Mailman |
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Post by seventeen on Jan 23, 2024 13:52:47 GMT -5
I guess Barron will be paired with the Mailman Both RHD's. That may not work. |
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Post by Andrew on Jan 23, 2024 14:03:14 GMT -5
Glad to see X get another shot with the club. What I'm waiting for is for one of our young D, apart from Guhle, to step up and show that they can be a legitimate top 4 defender for an extended stretch of games. Guhle's floor looks to be middle pair, with a reasonable chance that he could be a top pairing D. All of the others are still bottom-pair guys with upside IMO. Some have looked good for stretches when playing up the lineup, but have eventually struggled with consistency when faced with added minutes and assignments.
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Post by Willie Dog on Jan 23, 2024 14:39:12 GMT -5
I guess Barron will be paired with the Mailman Both RHD's. That may not work. You are correct, forgot about that... |
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Post by Willie Dog on Jan 23, 2024 14:40:17 GMT -5
Glad to see X get another shot with the club. What I'm waiting for is for one of our young D, apart from Guhle, to step up and show that they can be a legitimate top 4 defender for an extended stretch of games. Guhle's floor looks to be middle pair, with a reasonable chance that he could be a top pairing D. All of the others are still bottom-pair guys with upside IMO. Some have looked good for stretches when playing up the lineup, but have eventually struggled with consistency when faced with added minutes and assignments. It's tough to show you're top pair when Savard and Matheson are played as top pair. |
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Post by seventeen on Jan 23, 2024 15:13:38 GMT -5
It's tough to show you're top pair when Savard and Matheson are played as top pair. That is a faux top pair. I'd class Matheson as adecent #2 on a good day and a 4-5 on a bad day. Savard is a 3rd pair guy, all day long but useful on a PP (like Hal Gill) when you need a thick body to absorb pucks. |
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Post by Willie Dog on Jan 23, 2024 16:25:22 GMT -5
If they want to know what they have, put them in the position you think they can be in.
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Post by drkcloud on Jan 23, 2024 17:39:01 GMT -5
I guess Barron will be paired with the Mailman |
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Post by Willie Dog on Jan 28, 2024 16:03:04 GMT -5
I wonder who this team was? Attachments:
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Post by folatre on Jan 28, 2024 16:40:15 GMT -5
A lot of duds and turkeys are former first round picks.
Anyhow, no way to know the veracity of the report/rumor. Maybe the offer involved a kid who is actually still a worthwhile prospect. In such a case, Montreal declining speaks to management seeing Xhekaj as a rare stone that just needs some polishing.
To be honest, I think there are likelier candidates to get dealt in order to break the logjam on defense before camp opens in the fall.
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Post by Disgruntled70sHab on Jan 28, 2024 17:13:16 GMT -5
I wonder who this team was? Possibly Philadelphia ... I read it earlier today on "X" and, in addition to a 1st, and a prospect, the player I read about was a roster player described as being a "Potential second-line forward" ... so, I Googled that phrase, and it brought me to a "Capfriendly Scouting Report" for Flyer's prospect, Morgan Frost (located on the left-hand side of the page as you scroll down) ... I'll have to check my history file to see if I have the original scoop ... it's, more than likely, buried in a conversation thread ... anyway, a 24-year-old "potential second-line forward" doesn't fill me with confidence ... Cheers. |
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Post by Willie Dog on Jan 28, 2024 19:03:05 GMT -5
I wonder who this team was? Possibly Philadelphia ... I read it earlier today on "X" and, in addition to a 1st, and a prospect, the player I read about was a roster player described as being a "Potential second-line forward" ... so, I Googled that phrase, and it brought me to a "Capfriendly Scouting Report" for Flyer's prospect, Morgan Frost (located on the left-hand side of the page as you scroll down) ... I'll have to check my history file to see if I have the original scoop ... it's, more than likely, buried in a conversation thread ... anyway, a 24-year-old "potential second-line forward" doesn't fill me with confidence ... Cheers. Glad they passed on it |
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Post by Cranky on Jan 28, 2024 19:23:21 GMT -5
A first AND Morgan Frost?
Frost is already a 50 point 3C and 2C is within reach. Then add a first in the mid range. THAT is a pretty good return.
If that is true then Hughes definitely sees X as a top 4. So does Philly if that was the offer.
I think that in reality X is definitely a top 6 and potential for top 4. He's still raw in reading plays as a top 4 and it's going to take a couple of years to see if he gets there.
If it was just the 1st or just Frost. No. But both is a hell of a trade that would make me think hard on it.
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Post by jkr on Jan 28, 2024 19:43:49 GMT -5
That clip said MTL rejected the offer of a former 1st round pick with 2nd line potential. I didnt read that offer as being Frost AND the pick - just Frost.
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Post by Cranky on Jan 28, 2024 20:17:40 GMT -5
That clip said MTL rejected the offer of a former 1st round pick with 2nd line potential. I didnt read that offer as being Frost AND the pick - just Frost. Then a solid NO. We got Beck coming up that may have the same potential. X is a unicorn. There is a chance he will be our Chara and in his height he was worth top 10 of anyone in the league. A franchise defenseman. |
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Post by Willie Dog on Jan 28, 2024 20:29:28 GMT -5
So looking forward to the kids coming up to Laval... Beck, Hutson, Fowler, Reinbacher, Mesar, Lil X
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Post by habsorbed on Jan 29, 2024 0:21:43 GMT -5
Trading X at this stage would be ridiculous, especialy for the rumoured offer from Flyers. X could be the soild anchor on our D for a decade, one respected and feared by every opponent. Ya, he may not become that and only be a good 6th D (not bad). But what's being offerd is meh. I don't need more meh. Even if these players offered do as well as hoped it is still meh. If you have a potential diference maker in your organization you don't trade them until you're sure he won't be the difference maker or the offer is too good to turn down. HuGo knows this and X ain 't going anywhere.
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Post by Skilly on Jan 29, 2024 9:49:49 GMT -5
Not to muddy the waters here but Kaliyev wants out of LA
And I don’t think the offer was Frost. It’s more likely given the timing that Philly tried to trade Cutter Gauthier.
Gauthier was traded for Drysdale (a defenseman) and a second round pick
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Post by seventeen on Jan 29, 2024 14:33:41 GMT -5
Drysdale was VERY highly regarded, so it was an expensive deal for Anaheim. We'll have to see if Gauthier is worth it. The game I watched between BU and BC, Gauthier was fine but not as impressive as Leonard or Perreault.
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Post by folatre on Jan 29, 2024 19:20:08 GMT -5
Yeah, after the WJC, the near consensus is Gauthier will be a top liner. I doubt Philly asked for Xhekaj as the centerpiece of a deal.
If Briere is watching a lot of Habs games, checking out the plethora of young Habs d-men (and he should because aside from Drysdale/York they do not have much in terms of quality young blueliners in their org), I would be open to Harris for Frost, though I have significant doubts about whether Philadelphia is shopping Frost and even more doubt about Briere accepting such an offer in a series of chats with Hughes.
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Post by seventeen on Jan 30, 2024 15:21:05 GMT -5
Yeah, after the WJC, the near consensus is Gauthier will be a top liner. I doubt Philly asked for Xhekaj as the centerpiece of a deal. If Briere is watching a lot of Habs games, checking out the plethora of young Habs d-men (and he should because aside from Drysdale/York they do not have much in terms of quality young blueliners in their org), I would be open to Harris for Frost, though I have significant doubts about whether Philadelphia is shopping Frost and even more doubt about Briere accepting such an offer in a series of chats with Hughes. I thought they had guys they liked on D. Sanheim, Seeler and Walker come to mind. In fact, there were rumours about them shopping one of Seeler or Walker, perhaps because they were overloaded? Not sure why, but that would suggest they don't need D. They have Ronnie Attard and Emil Andrae in the AHL and they drafted Oliver Bonk this past draft, so maybe they feel comfortable with who they have in the pipeline. |
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