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Post by NWTHabsFan on Feb 4, 2024 10:58:54 GMT -5
So many photos of the Habs and their wives/gf’s lounging around in Bermuda on vacation during the break, and Arber goes to spend family time and see his younger brother play. Cool kid who is still very grounded.
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Post by Willie Dog on Feb 4, 2024 12:26:10 GMT -5
So many photos of the Habs and their wives/gf’s lounging around in Bermuda on vacation during the break, and Arber goes to spend family time and see his younger brother play. Cool kid who is still very grounded. He's a great kid |
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Post by seventeen on Feb 4, 2024 16:02:33 GMT -5
Character, discipline and great values (along with the awesome deterrence factor) are why I scoff at any suggestion of trading Arber. Same thing with Harris. Out of curiousity, I wonder what Jordan did n the break?
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Post by habsorbed on Feb 4, 2024 20:42:01 GMT -5
Character, discipline and great values (along with the awesome deterrence factor) are why I scoff at any suggestion of trading Arber. Same thing with Harris. Out of curiousity, I wonder what Jordan did n the break? i'm all in on X. Harris not so much. Don't see Harris in the mix when we are a contender. He's not bad at most aspects but he's not good at any. |
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Post by folatre on Feb 4, 2024 22:17:32 GMT -5
Seventeen and habsorbed, I hear you both. Harris should have a solid career because he is a smart, hard-working kid with some skill who is a likely candidate to get the most he possibly can out of his talent level. Hockey is debatable, but I think even two years down the road when he will be a more seasoned age for a NHL d-man Harris profiles be a 'tweener' type (#4-5) in the sense that he will not be enough of a play-driver, point-producer to lock into the top four based on offensive prowess and I do not foresee him being a big role d-man based on shutdown qualities. If Montreal was not astoundingly awash in young d-men, I would feel really comfortable saying Harris will be nice 15 minute a night guy. But with all of the options in the pipeline coming, will management want a third-pair guy who lacks muscle and length, does not punish with the body, and does not really have the characteristics to carve out a special teams niche?
There are different ways the numbers game could play out. And my crystal ball is hazy at best, but I see the Habs third pair in the near to medium term being big dudes who are nightly going to ask hard physical questions of opponents.
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Post by PTH on Feb 5, 2024 2:59:00 GMT -5
Seventeen and habsorbed, I hear you both. Harris should have a solid career because he is a smart, hard-working kid with some skill who is a likely candidate to get the most he possibly can out of his talent level. Hockey is debatable, but I think even two years down the road when he will be a more seasoned age for a NHL d-man Harris profiles be a 'tweener' type (#4-5) in the sense that he will not be enough of a play-driver, point-producer to lock into the top four based on offensive prowess and I do not foresee him being a big role d-man based on shutdown qualities. If Montreal was not astoundingly awash in young d-men, I would feel really comfortable saying Harris will be nice 15 minute a night guy. But with all of the options in the pipeline coming, will management want a third-pair guy who lacks muscle and length, does not punish with the body, and does not really have the characteristics to carve out a special teams niche? There are different ways the numbers game could play out. And my crystal ball is hazy at best, but I see the Habs third pair in the near to medium term being big dudes who are nightly going to ask hard physical questions of opponents. Harris's future probably depends on Hutson more than anything. If Hutson is an NHLer, even a 3d pairing PP specialist, there likely isn't room for another smallish D, in fact, it would become critical to have more size in the rest of the D corps. If Hutson crashes and burns, then having Harris as a 3d pairing player who can play either side and play a lot of minutes in the process (for a 3d pairing), could work. |
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Post by seventeen on Feb 5, 2024 14:42:35 GMT -5
Harris's future probably depends on Hutson more than anything. If Hutson is an NHLer, even a 3d pairing PP specialist, there likely isn't room for another smallish D, in fact, it would become critical to have more size in the rest of the D corps. If Hutson crashes and burns, then having Harris as a 3d pairing player who can play either side and play a lot of minutes in the process (for a 3d pairing), could work. Very true. Not that I think Harris is untouchable. I just put him a couple of slots further down the list of guys we could trade for that top 6 forward (or whoever). I'd keep him over Kovacevic and Matheson for example. Before anyone goes berserk over me suggesting Matheson, he is clearly better than Harris, but also is turning 30 in a couple of weeks and has much more trade value than Harris. What I want to see when the dust settles is having a combination of size, speed, Hockey IQ, offense and defense on our top 8 defensemen. Adding them up, the guys I would like to see stick around are Guhle, Struble, Xhekaj, Reinbacher, Mailloux, Engstrom, Hutson and Harris. With Mailloux, improvement in reading the play in his own zone will be critical. If he can't get better there, he'll be #8 on that list. Oops, I forgot Konyushkov who may also slot in there. We might also be including a dman drafted this year or next in that group and Harris may well be left out. The good news is that many of those guys have the potential to be (IMO) top 4 defensemen and that's a real luxury. We may have 6 top 4 guys which means the bottom pair is going to be killing the other teams' bottom pairs. |
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Post by Skilly on Feb 5, 2024 19:46:57 GMT -5
Harris's future probably depends on Hutson more than anything. If Hutson is an NHLer, even a 3d pairing PP specialist, there likely isn't room for another smallish D, in fact, it would become critical to have more size in the rest of the D corps. If Hutson crashes and burns, then having Harris as a 3d pairing player who can play either side and play a lot of minutes in the process (for a 3d pairing), could work. Very true. Not that I think Harris is untouchable. I just put him a couple of slots further down the list of guys we could trade for that top 6 forward (or whoever). I'd keep him over Kovacevic and Matheson for example. Before anyone goes berserk over me suggesting Matheson, he is clearly better than Harris, but also is turning 30 in a couple of weeks and has much more trade value than Harris. What I want to see when the dust settles is having a combination of size, speed, Hockey IQ, offense and defense on our top 8 defensemen. Adding them up, the guys I would like to see stick around are Guhle, Struble, Xhekaj, Reinbacher, Mailloux, Engstrom, Hutson and Harris. With Mailloux, improvement in reading the play in his own zone will be critical. If he can't get better there, he'll be #8 on that list. Oops, I forgot Konyushkov who may also slot in there. We might also be including a dman drafted this year or next in that group and Harris may well be left out. The good news is that many of those guys have the potential to be (IMO) top 4 defensemen and that's a real luxury. We may have 6 top 4 guys which means the bottom pair is going to be killing the other teams' bottom pairs. Giving up on Trudeau already? |
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Post by Willie Dog on Feb 5, 2024 20:21:07 GMT -5
Harris's future probably depends on Hutson more than anything. If Hutson is an NHLer, even a 3d pairing PP specialist, there likely isn't room for another smallish D, in fact, it would become critical to have more size in the rest of the D corps. If Hutson crashes and burns, then having Harris as a 3d pairing player who can play either side and play a lot of minutes in the process (for a 3d pairing), could work. Very true. Not that I think Harris is untouchable. I just put him a couple of slots further down the list of guys we could trade for that top 6 forward (or whoever). I'd keep him over Kovacevic and Matheson for example. Before anyone goes berserk over me suggesting Matheson, he is clearly better than Harris, but also is turning 30 in a couple of weeks and has much more trade value than Harris. What I want to see when the dust settles is having a combination of size, speed, Hockey IQ, offense and defense on our top 8 defensemen. Adding them up, the guys I would like to see stick around are Guhle, Struble, Xhekaj, Reinbacher, Mailloux, Engstrom, Hutson and Harris. With Mailloux, improvement in reading the play in his own zone will be critical. If he can't get better there, he'll be #8 on that list. Oops, I forgot Konyushkov who may also slot in there. We might also be including a dman drafted this year or next in that group and Harris may well be left out. The good news is that many of those guys have the potential to be (IMO) top 4 defensemen and that's a real luxury. We may have 6 top 4 guys which means the bottom pair is going to be killing the other teams' bottom pairs. Did you see the ahl all star shootout goal Logan scored? |
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Post by seventeen on Feb 6, 2024 1:57:39 GMT -5
Giving up on Trudeau already? When was I high on Trudeau? He had a decent year last year, but there are a lot of guys he's competing against. He may end up an NHL'er in time but maybe not with the Habs. At least not in the foreseeable future, but who knows?, he may have a great year next year. |
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Post by seventeen on Feb 6, 2024 1:59:30 GMT -5
Did you see the ahl all star shootout goal Logan scored? Yep. Nice backhand. Never questioned his offence, but his reads in the defensive zone are going to be what makes the difference between him being a very good defenseman, or a 7th man who is valuable on the PP. |
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Post by Skilly on Feb 6, 2024 6:39:42 GMT -5
Giving up on Trudeau already? When was I high on Trudeau? He had a decent year last year, but there are a lot of guys he's competing against. He may end up an NHL'er in time but maybe not with the Habs. At least not in the foreseeable future, but who knows?, he may have a great year next year. I'd think Hutson would be the PP QB along with Mailloux... if the coaches decide to have 4 forwards and 1 D on the PP. If they decide to have 2d on the pp then the 1st 2 pairings below would work great imo Hutson-Orville Guhle-Mailloux Xhekaj-Harris/Barron That's a big D... and sooo many D prospects as well Close  Guhle - Reinbacher Hutson - Harris Xhekaj - Engstrom Spares - Barron, Struble, Trudeau The first two pairs are more top pair 1A and top pair 1B. I think both could be very good and the 3rd pair will be much better than the typical 3rd pair. I might go as far as to say we won't have a 3rd pair except in name only. I'm definitely sticking my neck out in saying Mailloux will never make the Habs, but what the heck, go big or go home. |
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Post by Willie Dog on Feb 6, 2024 11:58:15 GMT -5
When was I high on Trudeau? He had a decent year last year, but there are a lot of guys he's competing against. He may end up an NHL'er in time but maybe not with the Habs. At least not in the foreseeable future, but who knows?, he may have a great year next year. Close Guhle - Reinbacher Hutson - Harris Xhekaj - Engstrom Spares - Barron, Struble, Trudeau The first two pairs are more top pair 1A and top pair 1B. I think both could be very good and the 3rd pair will be much better than the typical 3rd pair. I might go as far as to say we won't have a 3rd pair except in name only. I'm definitely sticking my neck out in saying Mailloux will never make the Habs, but what the heck, go big or go home. I'd swap Harris and struble because if lane is the offensive guy then strube is better defensively and he is tough, will lay the body and fight, which is what lane needs if someone want to goon him up... Harris doesn't provide all of that. I would also have no issue putting the Mailman in place of Harris, Mailman is not as strong defensively as struble but he tough and will his presence felt and he's smart with the puck. I would also be ok having the 2 X's on the 4th line... Guhle - Reinbacher Hutson - Struble Xhekaj - Engstrom Spares - Barron, Struble, Trudeau, mailloux, Harris |
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Post by Skilly on Feb 10, 2024 10:00:55 GMT -5
I'd swap Harris and struble because if lane is the offensive guy then strube is better defensively and he is tough, will lay the body and fight, which is what lane needs if someone want to goon him up... Harris doesn't provide all of that. I would also have no issue putting the Mailman in place of Harris, Mailman is not as strong defensively as struble but he tough and will his presence felt and he's smart with the puck. I would also be ok having the 2 X's on the 4th line... Guhle - Reinbacher Hutson - Struble Xhekaj - Engstrom Spares - Barron, Struble, Trudeau, mailloux, Harris BOOM!!! We may need to have a conversation on who exactly those spares are |
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Post by jkr on Feb 10, 2024 10:07:52 GMT -5
Nothing wrong with that hit yet he gets jumped because of the 'code". I wonder if any Marlies got an instigator?
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Post by Skilly on Feb 10, 2024 11:14:44 GMT -5
Nothing wrong with that hit yet he gets jumped because of the 'code". I wonder if any Marlies got an instigator? Absolutely nothing wrong .... here is a closer look. It was hip right into the ribs. No head contact whatsoever Look at that helmet fly off! |
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