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Post by jkr on Feb 14, 2024 8:46:06 GMT -5
Kings getting hammered by Buffalo - 7-0 I predict Blake gets replaced by Bergie very soon. He’ll wear his red suit at the coronation. Most of the Kings talk centers around Dubois but Blake really misread Jon Quick, The guy is now 38 but is revitalized in NY. He's signed for 825K, has played 19 games already behind Shesterkin and put up nice numbers. |
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Post by drkcloud on Feb 14, 2024 14:44:45 GMT -5
I’ve thought his ceiling was Jagr territory., from before he was drafted, because of the size similarities, not the scoring. That take looked really dumb the first games this year, but I’m back to that now. He hasn’t grown into his body yet nor discovered what he can do when he does. He msy well be our next superstar, developing in front of us. Next step - a couple of points in the same game against a good team. This should come with the top line dominating in that game. http://instagram.com/p/C3UDmTdAZs6 That's a not fun fact. I was a kid living in Regina at the time he was drafted from the Pats. I thought for sure he'd be a superstar but history proved otherwise 🤔 |
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Post by jkr on Feb 14, 2024 15:15:39 GMT -5
Interesting coincidence - Wickenheiser & Slafkovsky share a birthday - March 30th - along with being 1OA picks of the Habs.
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Post by Willie Dog on Feb 14, 2024 15:26:59 GMT -5
That's a not fun fact. I was a kid living in Regina at the time he was drafted from the Pats. I thought for sure he'd be a superstar but history proved otherwise 🤔 I think the people in charge are huge contributors to both situations |
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Post by Cranky on Feb 14, 2024 15:41:47 GMT -5
It feels good winning...while Chicago is going to build a dynasty with Bedard and Celebrini.
I hate to dream about losing but this isn't winning either.
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Post by Willie Dog on Feb 14, 2024 15:54:19 GMT -5
Slaf will become what we need him to be Attachments:
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Post by seventeen on Feb 14, 2024 16:15:24 GMT -5
I didn’t see the Xhekaj - Johnston fight. How did it go? The Habs were testy last night Kovacevic, Guhle, Xhekaj, even Struble all ready and willing to drop the gloves. At one point I thought Pezetta was going to fight Gudas too It would be interesting to see Gudas in an actual fight, where he won't have the advantage of blindside hitting or stickwork. I suspect he's a bit too fearful for that, at least against a Pezzetta, or Xhekaj or Guhle, or Dach. I don't know what Struble is like in a fight, but given his strength and athletic abilities, he'd be a handful. Good to see the boys not back down in the type of game where they dominate and the other team is frustrated. We want a team that beats others on the scoreboard and, if necessary, in the alley. |
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Post by Willie Dog on Feb 14, 2024 16:16:11 GMT -5
The Habs were testy last night Kovacevic, Guhle, Xhekaj, even Struble all ready and willing to drop the gloves. At one point I thought Pezetta was going to fight Gudas too It would be interesting to see Gudas in an actual fight, where he won't have the advantage of blindside hitting or stickwork. I suspect he's a bit too fearful for that, at least against a Pezzetta, or Xhekaj or Guhle, or Dach. I don't know what Struble is like in a fight, but given his strength and athletic abilities, he'd be a handful. Good to see the boys not back down in the type of game where they dominate and the other team is frustrated. We want a team that beats others on the scoreboard and, if necessary, in the alley. Team toughness... |
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Post by seventeen on Feb 14, 2024 16:17:59 GMT -5
It feels good winning...while Chicago is going to build a dynasty with Bedard and Celebrini. I hate to dream about losing but this isn't winning either. Don't sweat it. We're getting Celebrini. Hawks will do fine, but we're getting the franchise centre. |
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Post by Willie Dog on Feb 14, 2024 16:19:45 GMT -5
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Post by seventeen on Feb 14, 2024 16:21:51 GMT -5
It would be interesting to see Gudas in an actual fight, where he won't have the advantage of blindside hitting or stickwork. I suspect he's a bit too fearful for that, at least against a Pezzetta, or Xhekaj or Guhle, or Dach. I don't know what Struble is like in a fight, but given his strength and athletic abilities, he'd be a handful. Good to see the boys not back down in the type of game where they dominate and the other team is frustrated. We want a team that beats others on the scoreboard and, if necessary, in the alley. Team toughness... I'm curious how Slaf would do in more fights (just enough to send the right message). He said about his first one that it was kind of fun. And he is big, with a long reach (I think). Wingspan should be a hockey measurement too. It tells you how far the guy can reach with his stick on a forecheck, and how far away he can hold an opponent in a fight. |
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Post by Willie Dog on Feb 14, 2024 16:27:33 GMT -5
I'm curious how Slaf would do in more fights (just enough to send the right message). He said about his first one that it was kind of fun. And he is big, with a long reach (I think). Wingspan should be a hockey measurement too. It tells you how far the guy can reach with his stick on a forecheck, and how far away he can hold an opponent in a fight. The 1st Suzuki goal is a perfect example of wingspan, he was able to reach the puck and use that long stick to get control and make the pass |
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Post by Cranky on Feb 14, 2024 17:05:06 GMT -5
In case i never said this before...many times...
If you want to play in the alley, be prepped for it. Slaf with his reach and stregnth can be a devastating puncher but....he needs a bit of the basics to cover up and timing his punchs. Just several or a dozen lessons about the basics.
I'm saying tjis in case i never said ot before....several times.
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Post by IamCanadiens on Feb 14, 2024 17:08:47 GMT -5
I'm curious how Slaf would do in more fights (just enough to send the right message). He said about his first one that it was kind of fun. And he is big, with a long reach (I think). Wingspan should be a hockey measurement too. It tells you how far the guy can reach with his stick on a forecheck, and how far away he can hold an opponent in a fight. Why? I'd rather a key piece of the team never fight. Having him in the box keeps him off the ice where he is most valued. Further, he would increase his chance of sustaining a long term injury. One awkward fall, shattered orbital bone or broken knuckle keeps him on the shelf and hurts the team. Let the Xhekaj's of the world fight his fights. I hated seeing Iggy drop the gloves because he was so important to the Flames but he just couldn't help himself. That said, I thought it was hilarious when Beauchemin dropped him a couple of times. |
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Post by seventeen on Feb 14, 2024 18:33:22 GMT -5
Good stuff there, Willie. I liked Consentino's takes on guys well before he ended up on National tv. He sure has loaded up the top 5 with dmen, though. They are a preferred position, and some teams like Chicago may fee they need more talent on the back end than at centre, So after we pick Celebrini, they might go for a dman rather than 'step down' to a Lindstrom, Catton or Helenius. There are other lists which are quite different and don't have Dickinson or Yakemchuk quite that high. There are a lot of good dmen available and that has to help us in case Bettman intervenes so we don't get Celebrini. Catton, Demidov, Lindstrom or Helenius may still be available where we draft. |
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Post by seventeen on Feb 14, 2024 18:37:38 GMT -5
In case i never said this before...many times... If you want to play in the alley, be prepped for it. Slaf with his reach and stregnth can be a devastating puncher but....he needs a bit of the basics to cover up and timing his punchs. Just several or a dozen lessons about the basics. I'm saying tjis in case i never said ot before....several times. Of course you did. No one disputes the desire for our pending superstar to win a few fights, just to send the message to the rest of the league and then he can play without worrying about having to drop the gloves because someone wants to take him out of the game. Jean Beliveau had to put up with that for 3 seasons in the mid 50's and then he was left alone. Slaf could certainly use some work on that part of the game, but not too much. We need Juraj to concentrate on hockey, and Florian is skating in the wings, hopefully joining the team in 2 or 3 years. |
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Post by folatre on Feb 14, 2024 22:18:58 GMT -5
I have no problem with Slafkovsky exchanging greetings and dirty gloves with opponents around the net. But in terms of escalation, the kid needs to pick his spots very prudently. He should only fight if something egregious happens to Suzuki or Caufield right in front of his eyes, or if some guy who is basically a loud-mouth weakling wants to bank credit with his coach by squaring off against a big, soon to be star. Otherwise Slafkovsky should just smile and move on.
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Post by seventeen on Feb 14, 2024 23:48:56 GMT -5
I have no problem with Slafkovsky exchanging greetings and dirty gloves with opponents around the net. But in terms of escalation, the kid needs to pick his spots very prudently. He should only fight if something egregious happens to Suzuki or Caufield right in front of his eyes, or if some guy who is basically a loud-mouth weakling wants to bank credit with his coach by squaring off against a big, soon to be star. Otherwise Slafkovsky should just smile and move on. Of course. I did not mean to suggest he needs to find the nearest heavyweight and go at him. In those situations you described, or if some guy goes too far in intimidation crap, like Marchand was doing to Daniel (or Henrik) in 2011, then Juraj needs to bet the crap out of him. Outside of those situations, just play hockey. |
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Post by habsorbed on Feb 15, 2024 1:51:43 GMT -5
I have no problem with Slafkovsky exchanging greetings and dirty gloves with opponents around the net. But in terms of escalation, the kid needs to pick his spots very prudently. He should only fight if something egregious happens to Suzuki or Caufield right in front of his eyes, or if some guy who is basically a loud-mouth weakling wants to bank credit with his coach by squaring off against a big, soon to be star. Otherwise Slafkovsky should just smile and move on. Of course. I did not mean to suggest he needs to find the nearest heavyweight and go at him. In those situations you described, or if some guy goes too far in intimidation crap, like Marchand was doing to Daniel (or Henrik) in 2011, then Juraj needs to bet the crap out of him. Outside of those situations, just play hockey. I see Slafs like Ovie. He's big and can look after himself but he should rarely be expected to engage with lesser players. That's a win for the opponent which is what they want. If Scheiffle or Marchand want ot have a go, sure. But Slafs should. not be wasting his time on players who are not in top 6 of other teams, and even then. i want slafs on the ice getting points, not sitting in the box. |
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Post by Willie Dog on Feb 15, 2024 8:21:18 GMT -5
Slaf needs to spend time with Arber on thr finer points if grappling and fighting
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Post by habsorbed on Feb 15, 2024 10:46:14 GMT -5
Slaf needs to spend time with Arber on thr finer points if grappling and fighting X has been seriously hurt twice now during his fights. Confirms why we don't want slafs fighting. |
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Post by Willie Dog on Feb 15, 2024 11:25:51 GMT -5
Slaf needs to spend time with Arber on thr finer points if grappling and fighting X has been seriously hurt twice now during his fights. Confirms why we don't want slafs fighting. I'm not saying initiate like Kovacevic did but he needs to stand up for himself even if it's holding on... he can't turtle like stutzle |
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Post by Skilly on Feb 15, 2024 13:07:00 GMT -5
Good stuff there, Willie. I liked Consentino's takes on guys well before he ended up on National tv. He sure has loaded up the top 5 with dmen, though. They are a preferred position, and some teams like Chicago may fee they need more talent on the back end than at centre, So after we pick Celebrini, they might go for a dman rather than 'step down' to a Lindstrom, Catton or Helenius. There are other lists which are quite different and don't have Dickinson or Yakemchuk quite that high. There are a lot of good dmen available and that has to help us in case Bettman intervenes so we don't get Celebrini. Catton, Demidov, Lindstrom or Helenius may still be available where we draft. I'm not a big Cosentino fan. He has old school mentality and it shows in his rankings Lindstrom was out of the top ten, then in the top ten, now because he is injured he is back out? Not that I mind him falling into out laps |
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