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Post by habsorbed on Feb 25, 2024 21:19:32 GMT -5
He definnitely needs patience from fans. His scoring in juniour was really good, so I don't think it's a problem. The main problem is that he's playing out of position. He's a pretty good winger, but because of the team's needs has had to play centre far more than we'd like. He was starting to produce quite well on the wing before his injury. Also, we need to round out the Canadian diversification, and being from Newfoundland and Labrador, he fills that part of the equation. Never had problems with Newfie kids. We should have kept Ryder, so he couldn't block that shot in game 7 if nothing else. Damn. Lol... line ups by geography... do we get an award for that... We can definitely check off the Slovakia box  |
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Post by Skilly on Feb 26, 2024 19:58:23 GMT -5
Not much on the results front... ok I won't even get into how EVERY other player seems to get a 20 game pass from this board when returning from injury But. Newhook has the third most goals per game on this team. And the fifth most points per game on this team. (He is actually tied with Slaf on that, but Newhook's 21 goal pace over 82 games would surpass Slaf ... Slaf has 0.517ppg and Newhook has 0.516ppg, both would end with 42 points, but Newhook with more goals) This is also Newhook's first year with this team. I don't know guys. If you were expecting 40-60 points from Newhook while only playing 55 games and without Dach, then there is more going on I think And you confirmed my point. If Newhook is 3rd most goal per pgame than you need more talent. It may be Newhook will become a legit top 6 but I'm not all that hopeful based on what I'm seeing. And yet it is only Newhook getting the brunt of the criticism for the PP woes Caufield gets the returning from injury excuse for the WHOLE year for his lack of goals - not Newhook Monahan got the playing out of position excuse - not Newhook (well except 17) There are countless players getting the youth excuse - not Newhook Slaf got the 1OA needs time to develop - not first rounder Newhook Then there is all the AHL call-ups getting they need time to gel excuse - tell me again how many years Newhook has played with these Habs ? Oh yeah 31 games, All this and he still is the third best forward production wise on this team. While I absolutely agree with you there is a lack of talent on this team, the offensive woes are not because of Newhook |
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Post by habsorbed on Feb 27, 2024 11:13:48 GMT -5
And you confirmed my point. If Newhook is 3rd most goal per pgame than you need more talent. It may be Newhook will become a legit top 6 but I'm not all that hopeful based on what I'm seeing. And yet it is only Newhook getting the brunt of the criticism for the PP woes Caufield gets the returning from injury excuse for the WHOLE year for his lack of goals - not Newhook Monahan got the playing out of position excuse - not Newhook (well except 17) There are countless players getting the youth excuse - not Newhook Slaf got the 1OA needs time to develop - not first rounder Newhook Then there is all the AHL call-ups getting they need time to gel excuse - tell me again how many years Newhook has played with these Habs ? Oh yeah 31 games, All this and he still is the third best forward production wise on this team. While I absolutely agree with you there is a lack of talent on this team, the offensive woes are not because of Newhook Newhook getting the brunt of the criticism for the PP woes? I don't even consider him a regular on the 1st unit PP - still has to earn it. As far as the PP criticism, my focus, and others, has been on Matheson, and his low IQ should not be the QB. I've said for some time now that he should be on the 2nd unit and he can skate miles for the last 35 seconds of each PP. I would much rather have X or Struble on the 1st unit. They would have little problem feeding Cole or Juri. And X has the threat of a lethal shot. As for "the youth excuse", I beleive i criticized Roy, who is 20 in the same sentence that you took offence to about Newhook. BTW, Newhook is 23 - Suze is 24 and Cole is 23. Time for Newhook to show some progression. |
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Post by Willie Dog on Feb 27, 2024 11:30:21 GMT -5
And yet it is only Newhook getting the brunt of the criticism for the PP woes Caufield gets the returning from injury excuse for the WHOLE year for his lack of goals - not Newhook Monahan got the playing out of position excuse - not Newhook (well except 17) There are countless players getting the youth excuse - not Newhook Slaf got the 1OA needs time to develop - not first rounder Newhook Then there is all the AHL call-ups getting they need time to gel excuse - tell me again how many years Newhook has played with these Habs ? Oh yeah 31 games, All this and he still is the third best forward production wise on this team. While I absolutely agree with you there is a lack of talent on this team, the offensive woes are not because of Newhook Newhook getting the brunt of the criticism for the PP woes? I don't even consider him a regular on the 1st unit PP - still has to earn it. As far as the PP criticism, my focus, and others, has been on Matheson, and his low IQ should not be the QB. I've said for some time now that he should be on the 2nd unit and he can skate miles for the last 35 seconds of each PP. I would much rather have X or Struble on the 1st unit. They would have little problem feeding Cole or Juri. And X has the threat of a lethal shot. As for "the youth excuse", I beleive i criticized Roy, who is 20 in the same sentence that you took offence to about Newhook. BTW, Newhook is 23 - Suze is 24 and Cole is 23. Time for Newhook to show some progression. We do not have enough quality forwards to have 4 forwards on each pp unit, we should have 3 forwards and 2D Matheson and newhook should on the 2nd pp, the 2nd unit cannot have gally, Anderson and Evans... Pp1 Cc-suze-slaf X-struble Pp2 Roy-white-Newhook Matheson-guhle |
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Post by Skilly on Feb 27, 2024 16:33:46 GMT -5
And yet it is only Newhook getting the brunt of the criticism for the PP woes Caufield gets the returning from injury excuse for the WHOLE year for his lack of goals - not Newhook Monahan got the playing out of position excuse - not Newhook (well except 17) There are countless players getting the youth excuse - not Newhook Slaf got the 1OA needs time to develop - not first rounder Newhook Then there is all the AHL call-ups getting they need time to gel excuse - tell me again how many years Newhook has played with these Habs ? Oh yeah 31 games, All this and he still is the third best forward production wise on this team. While I absolutely agree with you there is a lack of talent on this team, the offensive woes are not because of Newhook Newhook getting the brunt of the criticism for the PP woes? I don't even consider him a regular on the 1st unit PP - still has to earn it. As far as the PP criticism, my focus, and others, has been on Matheson, and his low IQ should not be the QB. I've said for some time now that he should be on the 2nd unit and he can skate miles for the last 35 seconds of each PP. I would much rather have X or Struble on the 1st unit. They would have little problem feeding Cole or Juri. And X has the threat of a lethal shot. As for "the youth excuse", I beleive i criticized Roy, who is 20 in the same sentence that you took offence to about Newhook. BTW, Newhook is 23 - Suze is 24 and Cole is 23. Time for Newhook to show some progression. My post, while I quoted you, was more towards the general trend I'm seeing in attitude towards Newhook. I apologize for quoting your post Suz and Cole play on the first line, and I'd like to point out that Cole's greatest asset has regressed significantly. The issue I have is when someone states they want a player to show progression, but they do not define that progression. For instance, Newhook's production this year is the best of his career, and he isn't exactly playing with studs. Is that not progression? People harp on this hockey IQ BS, which to me is funny. More often then not I see Newhook ahead of the play and making a play quickly only to see the player is not as fast as him. That's a learning experience, but I wouldn't attribute it to hockey IQ, I'd attribute it to playing with Armia and not being familiar with players. I'm fine with agreeing to disagree with you all on his evaluation. It feels like Chris Higgins all over again 😝 |
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Post by Willie Dog on Feb 27, 2024 18:51:03 GMT -5
Newhook getting the brunt of the criticism for the PP woes? I don't even consider him a regular on the 1st unit PP - still has to earn it. As far as the PP criticism, my focus, and others, has been on Matheson, and his low IQ should not be the QB. I've said for some time now that he should be on the 2nd unit and he can skate miles for the last 35 seconds of each PP. I would much rather have X or Struble on the 1st unit. They would have little problem feeding Cole or Juri. And X has the threat of a lethal shot. As for "the youth excuse", I beleive i criticized Roy, who is 20 in the same sentence that you took offence to about Newhook. BTW, Newhook is 23 - Suze is 24 and Cole is 23. Time for Newhook to show some progression. My post, while I quoted you, was more towards the general trend I'm seeing in attitude towards Newhook. I apologize for quoting your post Suz and Cole play on the first line, and I'd like to point out that Cole's greatest asset has regressed significantly. The issue I have is when someone states they want a player to show progression, but they do not define that progression. For instance, Newhook's production this year is the best of his career, and he isn't exactly playing with studs. Is that not progression? People harp on this hockey IQ BS, which to me is funny. More often then not I see Newhook ahead of the play and making a play quickly only to see the player is not as fast as him. That's a learning experience, but I wouldn't attribute it to hockey IQ, I'd attribute it to playing with Armia and not being familiar with players. I'm fine with agreeing to disagree with you all on his evaluation. It feels like Chris Higgins all over again 😝 Or the other Chris... He who shall not be named (Dyment)...lol |
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Post by habsorbed on Feb 28, 2024 10:49:59 GMT -5
Newhook getting the brunt of the criticism for the PP woes? I don't even consider him a regular on the 1st unit PP - still has to earn it. As far as the PP criticism, my focus, and others, has been on Matheson, and his low IQ should not be the QB. I've said for some time now that he should be on the 2nd unit and he can skate miles for the last 35 seconds of each PP. I would much rather have X or Struble on the 1st unit. They would have little problem feeding Cole or Juri. And X has the threat of a lethal shot. As for "the youth excuse", I beleive i criticized Roy, who is 20 in the same sentence that you took offence to about Newhook. BTW, Newhook is 23 - Suze is 24 and Cole is 23. Time for Newhook to show some progression. My post, while I quoted you, was more towards the general trend I'm seeing in attitude towards Newhook. I apologize for quoting your post Suz and Cole play on the first line, and I'd like to point out that Cole's greatest asset has regressed significantly. The issue I have is when someone states they want a player to show progression, but they do not define that progression. For instance, Newhook's production this year is the best of his career, and he isn't exactly playing with studs. Is that not progression? People harp on this hockey IQ BS, which to me is funny. More often then not I see Newhook ahead of the play and making a play quickly only to see the player is not as fast as him. That's a learning experience, but I wouldn't attribute it to hockey IQ, I'd attribute it to playing with Armia and not being familiar with players. I'm fine with agreeing to disagree with you all on his evaluation. It feels like Chris Higgins all over again 😝 "Progression" is being able to set up a dud like Armia for a goal on a nice feed |
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