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Post by Skilly on Apr 3, 2024 10:20:21 GMT -5
For context, we are ok with Slaf taking punches to the head? Let him handle his own business?
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Post by Skilly on Apr 3, 2024 10:31:47 GMT -5
The Cousins late hit … notice Xhekaj doesn’t even go for Cousins
Not egregious, but it was late and was just one of many liberties taken without a real response
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Post by Willie Dog on Apr 3, 2024 11:03:19 GMT -5
For context, we are ok with Slaf taking punches to the head? Let him handle his own business? No we are not, what should happen is Anderson or X or someone should've nailed ekblad but he left after Slaf roughed him up on the ice |
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Post by seventeen on Apr 3, 2024 12:27:51 GMT -5
I agree, but Marty sure likes him. Marty also defends Anderson, but I think his trade value is shot. If Hughes can move Anderson this summer, it will the greatest heist since Shea Weber's trade to Vegas. Marty is a class act. He ain't going "All Torts" and slagging a player in public - nothing to be gained; just have a pissed off player. Despite how ugly Josh been this year, I haven't given up on him. If he can be traded I'm not adverse. But if we're talikng "heists" and helping the team, it will be unloading Gally that will have the biggest impact. AS you know, I gave up on him long ago. Dumb as a doorknob. Naturally, Marty is not going to say anything negative about him. Marty's meritocracy situation is harmed by Anderson, but in fairness, there's not a lot to be done about it. Who will be called up to replace him? Heineman, Andersson? Laval needs every able body it has to make the playoffs so, there really is no one in the wings to kick Anderson to the sidelines. That's the most obvious message and it could be considered slagging, or not even if nothing verbal is said. He just hasn't put up the points expected. End of discussion. |
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Post by seventeen on Apr 3, 2024 12:34:39 GMT -5
As a general comment, Florida didn't used to be like this, but since Zito took over (or after Maurice had that rant last year), the team culture has changed. It may also have something to do with Tkachuk joining the team. In any case, they have become much more belligerent and trying to be the Broad Street bullies. Problem is, they don't have Dave Schultz or Andre Dupont. They are a walking suicide case for a really tough team. What I'd love to see happen is for someone to start beating on the turtling Cousins and a few guys mill around so the linesmen have to deal with the scrum, and Cousins to get the crap beaten out of him, dragged to the Florida bench and tossed down in front of it. "Who's next?".
Won't happen, of course, because the beater would get a 20 game suspension (Colin helping out Greg again). And the linesmen wouldn't cooperate....or would they?
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Post by seventeen on Apr 3, 2024 12:36:26 GMT -5
No we are not, what should happen is Anderson or X or someone should've nailed ekblad but he left after Slaf roughed him up on the ice Hopefully, Ekblad tweaked his knee and is out for the season. I'm not usually like this, but Florida is a special case, especially with Greg Campbell as AGM. I may also be suffering from PCSD (Post Covid Stress disorder) |
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Post by PTH on Apr 3, 2024 13:10:30 GMT -5
No we are not, what should happen is Anderson or X or someone should've nailed ekblad but he left after Slaf roughed him up on the ice Hopefully, Ekblad tweaked his knee and is out for the season. I'm not usually like this, but Florida is a special case, especially with Greg Campbell as AGM. I may also be suffering from PCSD (Post Covid Stress disorder) If you're going to wish them harm, at least have it be harm that benefits the Habs - let's have Ekblad recover from his knee issues, and then realize in camp that he needs an operation, that would take him out for about 70 games, but no more, so Florida can't even use his LTIR cap room since he'd return before the playoffs. Anything so Florida's first rounder next season is the best possible pick, since it's likely being transfered to Montreal... |
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Post by Willie Dog on Apr 3, 2024 13:45:21 GMT -5
Hopefully, Ekblad tweaked his knee and is out for the season. I'm not usually like this, but Florida is a special case, especially with Greg Campbell as AGM. I may also be suffering from PCSD (Post Covid Stress disorder) If you're going to wish them harm, at least have it be harm that benefits the Habs - let's have Ekblad recover from his knee issues, and then realize in camp that he needs an operation, that would take him out for about 70 games, but no more, so Florida can't even use his LTIR cap room since he'd return before the playoffs. Anything so Florida's first rounder next season is the best possible pick, since it's likely being transfered to Montreal... I approve this post... 😁 |
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Post by jkr on Apr 3, 2024 13:49:23 GMT -5
As a general comment, Florida didn't used to be like this, but since Zito took over (or after Maurice had that rant last year), the team culture has changed. It may also have something to do with Tkachuk joining the team. In any case, they have become much more belligerent and trying to be the Broad Street bullies. Problem is, they don't have Dave Schultz or Andre Dupont. They are a walking suicide case for a really tough team. What I'd love to see happen is for someone to start beating on the turtling Cousins and a few guys mill around so the linesmen have to deal with the scrum, and Cousins to get the crap beaten out of him, dragged to the Florida bench and tossed down in front of it. "Who's next?". Won't happen, of course, because the beater would get a 20 game suspension (Colin helping out Greg again). And the linesmen wouldn't cooperate....or would they? Cousins is a douche that has no shame. A few months ago when Gudbranson jumped him he didn't even fight back. He covered his head and took the pounding. The one game suspension was probably the best money Gudbranson ever spent. Guys like him won't stop unless they see payback happening to their own teammates. I didnt see the game but its disturbing to see players abused with no response, especially your stars. This team is going to get a rep that they can be pushed around. What exactly are they playing for? A shot at another crap power play? If this is the philosophy of this management team then they are going to have problems. There needs to be retribution for abuse otherwise it just keeps happening. The Leafs tried this with the Reaves signing but the problem is that he is such a lousy player that he rarely on the ice. Montreal has weapons. Use them! |
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Post by seventeen on Apr 3, 2024 14:08:33 GMT -5
Hopefully, Ekblad tweaked his knee and is out for the season. I'm not usually like this, but Florida is a special case, especially with Greg Campbell as AGM. I may also be suffering from PCSD (Post Covid Stress disorder) If you're going to wish them harm, at least have it be harm that benefits the Habs - let's have Ekblad recover from his knee issues, and then realize in camp that he needs an operation, that would take him out for about 70 games, but no more, so Florida can't even use his LTIR cap room since he'd return before the playoffs. Anything so Florida's first rounder next season is the best possible pick, since it's likely being transfered to Montreal... I'm counting on them missing the playoffs. They have to have a season where everything goes wrong and next year is it. |
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Post by folatre on Apr 3, 2024 17:51:40 GMT -5
Ekblad did not do any damage to Slafkovsky. The not so strong dumbasz should not have tried to be a macho hero after the whistle because hey sometimes when you mess with the bull you get the horns. Not to wish an injury on anyone, but I may not to be able to resist chuckling if Ekblad ends up missing playoff games.
I do not see the logic in today's NHL for a guy like Xhekaj who can actually play hockey to jump someone refusing to drop his gloves and get himself suspended. Ekblad never came back into the game, so it is not like anyone could have a conversation with him. And yes absolutely if Xhekaj can lay a good hit on Barkov or Lundell or whoever, then by all means floor it and deliver some pain.
Remember the last Buffalo game, Middelstadt delivered a greasy hit on Evans near the boards. Xhekaj literally chased the dude around the whole game, delivering punishing hit after punishing hit. But it was not like Middelstadt or anyone on the Sabres would fight the Sheriff. Heck, Middelstadt and the Sabres would not even look at Xhekaj when he skated by their bench.
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Post by Skilly on Apr 3, 2024 19:13:56 GMT -5
Ekblad did not do any damage to Slafkovsky. The not so strong dumbasz should not have tried to be a macho hero after the whistle because hey sometimes when you mess with the bull you get the horns. Not to wish an injury on anyone, but I may not to be able to resist chuckling if Ekblad ends up missing playoff games. I do not see the logic in today's NHL for a guy like Xhekaj who can actually play hockey to jump someone refusing to drop his gloves and get himself suspended. Ekblad never came back into the game, so it is not like anyone could have a conversation with him. And yes absolutely if Xhekaj can lay a good hit on Barkov or Lundell or whoever, then by all means floor it and deliver some pain. Remember the last Buffalo game, Middelstadt delivered a greasy hit on Evans near the boards. Xhekaj literally chased the dude around the whole game, delivering punishing hit after punishing hit. But it was not like Middelstadt or anyone on the Sabres would fight the Sheriff. Heck, Middelstadt and the Sabres would not even look at Xhekaj when he skated by their bench. You are missing the point. The next time maybe someone hits Slaf with a gloved hand and he gets a concussion. So we only retaliate AFTER someone does damage? It's too late then isn't it? You have nuclear weapons to prevent someone doing anything, not to react to someone. And Xhekaj isn't getting suspended for dropping his gloves. He'd get a misconduct or an extra instigator penalty. But even if he did, do we really care this year? The point is to send a message for future games when they really count. If we are ok with doing nothing now, then I don't think people can complain when our cream puffs get injured. |
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Post by Skilly on Apr 3, 2024 19:28:25 GMT -5
Then on the other end of the spectrum, you have this response to Rempe's antics ...
Eight players were ejected from the game. Vessy / Lazar fight was declared the first fight, so they weren't ejected.
Do you think the eight players are facing suspensions?
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Post by folatre on Apr 3, 2024 21:20:39 GMT -5
Do you not understand all 10 guys in that goof show tonight in New York were willing participants? They all dropped their gloves. Chasing down and punching a dude in the face who is not willing to drop them is a different scenario altogether.
Go watch that Buffalo game. A clearer message could not have been sent by Xhekaj to Middelstadt and the rest of Sabres about how Montreal felt about the hit on Evans. The fact that they behaved like a bunch of church mice says the message was indeed sent and received.
Ekblad got hurt, not Slafkovsky. That may also have been a factor in how the Habs bench wanted to approach the whole situation after it happened.
We all know first hand that if a coach feels a situation warrants it, there a few direct choice words on the bench and the tap on a couple of shoulders, and then guys who play that role hear the message and get down to business. For me if one wants to whine about anything in a game the Habs handily won and did not get pushed around, then park the complaints on the door of the coach, not Xhekaj or Pezzetta or whoever.
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Post by Skilly on Apr 3, 2024 22:05:45 GMT -5
Do you not understand all 10 guys in that goof show tonight in New York were willing participants? They all dropped their gloves. Chasing down and punching a dude in the face who is not willing to drop them is a different scenario altogether. Go watch that Buffalo game. A clearer message could not have been sent by Xhekaj to Middelstadt and the rest of Sabres about how Montreal felt about the hit on Evans. The fact that they behaved like a bunch of church mice says the message was indeed sent and received. Ekblad got hurt, not Slafkovsky. That may also have been a factor in how the Habs bench wanted to approach the whole situation after it happened. We all know first hand that if a coach feels a situation warrants it, there a few direct choice words on the bench and the tap on a couple of shoulders, and then guys who play that role hear the message and get down to business. For me if one wants to whine about anything in a game the Habs handily won and did not get pushed around, then park the complaints on the door of the coach, not Xhekaj or Pezzetta or whoever. I completely understand you Don't fight unless a willing combatant steps up Don't retaliate unless some Hab gets hurt 🙄🙄 And we wonder why teams take these liberties with us on a regular basis I really don't see how what happened in a Buffalo game deters the Panthers or any other team. The pack mentality is something that must be present for every game, not once every blue moon |
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Post by habsorbed on Apr 3, 2024 22:15:09 GMT -5
I too will not be shedding any tears if Ekblad is out for awhile. That was a clear shot to the head of a defenceless player. Apparently after the game Slafs said "Ekblad chip-shot me. If he does that, then I won't let him do it to me, so i'll be fighting until the ref jumps in." Love the attitude. And love the strength! He just overpowers people and he is only going to get bigger. Did you hear he just turned 20? Talk about a power forward! And he's so much more, as most power forwards cannot pass or think the game well. We got ourselves a winner. Now how to protect him so he isn't injured or in the box as a result of this crap!  |
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Post by Willie Dog on Apr 4, 2024 5:01:43 GMT -5
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Post by Skilly on Apr 4, 2024 18:37:36 GMT -5
I too will not be shedding any tears if Ekblad is out for awhile. That was a clear shot to the head of a defenceless player. Apparently after the game Slafs said "Ekblad chip-shot me. If he does that, then I won't let him do it to me, so i'll be fighting until the ref jumps in." Love the attitude. And love the strength! He just overpowers people and he is only going to get bigger. Did you hear he just turned 20? Talk about a power forward! And he's so much more, as most power forwards cannot pass or think the game well. We got ourselves a winner. Now how to protect him so he isn't injured or in the box as a result of this crap! That's kinda my point. If we are ok with Xhekaj not fighting when we are leading 6-2 with the mentality that no one will step up, and what's to gain, then we HAVE to be ok with Slaf protecting himself. So what do we want? Xhekaj risking suspension / ejection protecting a player, or Slaf risking injury protecting himself? And as an after thought, if sending messages is not kosher in a 5-2, or 6-2 game, then when is ok ... when it's a close game??? |
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