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Post by Disgruntled70sHab on Apr 6, 2024 18:36:31 GMT -5
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Post by jkr on Apr 7, 2024 17:27:40 GMT -5
I remember where I was when I heard about this trade, i was driving home for work. I was lucky I was on a country road because when I heard McDonagh's name I probably yelled out - WHAT! My recollection was that Sather wanted to rid himself of the Gomez deal. He should have been sweetening the pot but it was Gainey using his prize defensive prospect as a throw in.
I wondered at the time if the motivation to find a centre ,after failing to sign Briere as a free agent in 2007, was the reason for this trade.
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Post by PTH on Apr 7, 2024 17:50:05 GMT -5
I remember where I was when I heard about this trade, i was driving home for work. I was lucky I was on a country road because when I heard McDonagh's name I probably yelled out - WHAT! My recollection was that Sather wanted to rid himself of the Gomez deal. He should have been sweetening the pot but it was Gainey using his prize defensive prospect as a throw in. I wondered at the time if the motivation to find a centre ,after failing to sign Briere as a free agent in 2007, was the reason for this trade. My thinking was that McDonagh became available in the talks to try and get Lecavalier, and so he was still seen as "available" when it was time to get another supposed #1C in Gomez. |
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Post by seventeen on Apr 7, 2024 18:55:45 GMT -5
Can’t see the gsme but the box score indicates Goal Caufield is back. Also, with an assist, Savard moves ahead of Josh Anderson in the Paradoxical scoring race.
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Post by jkr on Apr 7, 2024 19:09:52 GMT -5
Can’t see the gsme but the box score indicates Goal Caufield is back. Also, with an assist, Savard moves ahead of Josh Anderson in the Paradoxical scoring race. I read the summary & it said - assist D. Savard. For a moment I thought Denis?? |
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Post by jkr on Apr 7, 2024 19:32:04 GMT -5
Zibanejad banks one in off Armia on the PP. 1-1
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Post by Willie Dog on Apr 7, 2024 19:35:06 GMT -5
Yotes are beating SJ, so this is a must lose game... Hens are tied with the caps
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Post by jkr on Apr 7, 2024 19:37:52 GMT -5
Yotes are beating SJ, so this is a must lose game... Hens are tied with the caps Coyotes game is over - 5-2 Arizona |
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Post by jkr on Apr 7, 2024 19:45:45 GMT -5
Yotes are beating SJ, so this is a must lose game... Hens are tied with the caps Coyotes game is over - 5-2 Arizona Sens & Caps going to OT. |
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Post by Willie Dog on Apr 7, 2024 19:48:04 GMT -5
Coyotes game is over - 5-2 Arizona Sens & Caps going to OT. We need a Hens win |
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Post by jkr on Apr 7, 2024 20:12:20 GMT -5
Ottawa wins on a Sanderson goal |
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Post by jkr on Apr 7, 2024 20:15:03 GMT -5
Hating that Ranger goal song so much
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Post by Skilly on Apr 7, 2024 20:16:38 GMT -5
I see we aren’t going to get a full PP this game
It baffles me that other teams need that advantage to beat MTL, but the refs sure feel that way
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Post by jkr on Apr 7, 2024 20:19:59 GMT -5
A loss here will enhance their record for the 2nd half of back to backs. If they lose here I think that record is 1-11.
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Post by jkr on Apr 7, 2024 20:24:49 GMT -5
Rempe looks like such a tool lurching around out there. Falls over with no one near him. why is he even on the roster of a contending team. He loses his fights and just picks up game misconducts. The Rangers should be embarassed.
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Post by jkr on Apr 7, 2024 20:28:37 GMT -5
Matheson springs Newhook into the clear - now 3-2 rangers
That's 30 points in 50 games. Last season with the Avs Newhook had 30 points in 82 games.
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Post by jkr on Apr 7, 2024 20:36:47 GMT -5
Barron is standing in the corner while Zibanejad is alone in front of the net. Not sure what he thought he was doing. 4-2 NY
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Post by jkr on Apr 7, 2024 20:42:12 GMT -5
They are awful with the goalie out. No pressure, giveaways. Do they even practice this?
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Post by seventeen on Apr 7, 2024 20:49:47 GMT -5
Barron is standing in the corner while Zibanejad is alone in front of the net. Not sure what he thought he was doing. 4-2 NY Barron’s done. |
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Post by habsorbed on Apr 7, 2024 20:58:11 GMT -5
Huge win, I mean loss! We are now in control of our own destiny to get the 5 spot.
Amazing how bad this d is without Guhle and X. I agree Barron is done. but have real questions about Harris and Struble. I'm hoping Struble is just fatigue cause he was pretty good his first month or two.
Josh is now officially a joke: no effort, no sense, and no show. I'm assuming he's given up on the season and thinks he can just turm on the switch next season but I'm not hopeful.
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Post by Willie Dog on Apr 7, 2024 21:07:47 GMT -5
I wonder if MSL did to him what he did to Cole... make him a 200ft player... the issue is Josh doesn't have the IQ to process the change... Cole has processed it, adapted finally and is able to do both now...
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Post by seventeen on Apr 7, 2024 22:49:36 GMT -5
I wonder if MSL did to him what he did to Cole... make him a 200ft player... the issue is Josh doesn't have the IQ to process the change... Cole has processed it, adapted finally and is able to do both now... That's been the fundamental problem that no one really wants to voice. All I can take from the situation, without actually talking to Josh, is that he just isn't that bright. Marty's strategy involves decision making and understanding at a high speed. If you can't follow the play and anticipate what might happen next, you're going to have trouble fitting into St. Louis' system. From what I have read, Reinbacher (for example) is the perfect guy to play for Marty. High recognition, fast processing and flawless execution. You need to see what your options are, choose the best one (not the obvious or easiest one) and execute. Anderson knows one strategy that has worked for him in previous years. Throw the puck in, Forecheck, get it back, cycle and get umpteen shots on goal. The game is changing. Basu was pointing out that the Suzuki line, while it forechecks to create turnovers, doesn't cycle. It tries to create space for one of their guys to have a good scoring position and a lot of that is weaving, deception and passing. What is Anderson's biggest weakness? His passing. He has never been good at it, especially at receiving passes, and he prefers the game that only exists rarely. Hughes needs to find a team that uses the cycle game, that will appreciate Anderson and the Habs will have to retain salary. It will be worth it. Right now, that RW spot is a black hole that sucks offence out of the team. An average player will add about 20 goals to that line (between the 3 guys and on both sides of the red line). An above average player might make that 30 goals. We can't be considered contenders with Anderson in the line-up. Just a few years ago, RW was considered a strength of the team and LW the weak area. Until Armia had his epiphany, and Gallagher was struggling, RW was a real weak spot. Looking ahead, Slaf is a great place to start. He'll be one of the top, if not the best, RW in the NHL. Joshua Roy will be a superb player, but it's uncertain after that. LW has Caufield and Newhook (assuming he plays there on Dach's line). In my estimation that's two pretty solid, if not spectacular, top lines. It's what comes after that which is problematic. Beck should help the 3rd line, but who plays on the wings? If we pick up one of Lindstrom, Demidov, Catton, Eiserman, or Iginla, that adds a second player to the 3rd line (or second line depending on how fast they progress). But, as you see, the depth dwindles quickly after that. You need size on the 3rd and 4th lines, so Mesar and Farrell won't cut it, even if they're great offensively. That leaves guys like Luke Tuch, Heineman, Armia (I haven't forgotten Lazarus), Florian Xhekaj, Filip Eriksson, Vincent Rohrer and Jared Davidson. We need to draft a good, big kid or pick up another top forward in a trade (using Matheson and some of our young D kids along with picks). You should be able to get some cheap, bigger bodies for the 4th line from non expensive sources but the 3rd line has to have quality and if we can add quality to the 4th line, even better. Longer shots like Davidson, Rohrer, Eriksson and Oliver Kapanen can make a 4th line that's dangerous, yet responsible. We have a lot of picks. Some of those 2nd and 3rd rounders have to blossom. |
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Post by Andrew on Apr 7, 2024 23:24:03 GMT -5
It’s one thing for Anderson to not be contributing offensively or asserting himself physically, but that turnover on the 4th goal was so soft. He should be scratched. MSL needs to send a message that this is unacceptable.
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Post by habsorbed on Apr 7, 2024 23:53:06 GMT -5
It’s one thing for Anderson to not be contributing offensively or asserting himself physically, but that turnover on the 4th goal was so soft. He should be scratched. MSL needs to send a message that this is unacceptable. It was a bizarre play showing a guy who can't think the game. Even the dmen who appear to be caught out of position were simply dunbfounded but what they just saw. A B-|nd by the way, Josh is the vet in the lot |
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Post by Skilly on Apr 8, 2024 9:37:18 GMT -5
Rempe looks like such a tool lurching around out there. Falls over with no one near him. why is he even on the roster of a contending team. He loses his fights and just picks up game misconducts. The Rangers should be embarassed. Lurch is a good nickname for him. |
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Post by Skilly on Apr 8, 2024 9:49:45 GMT -5
Matheson springs Newhook into the clear - now 3-2 rangers That's 30 points in 50 games. Last season with the Avs Newhook had 30 points in 82 games. Not bad for a player most don’t consider a center, much less a second line center Since returning from injury his has 6 goals , 11 assists in 27 games playing with Gallagher and Armia. Who thought anyone could resurrect those two? Only 4 of those points have come on the power play Also, fun stat, Newhook leads ALL Habs in even strength points per 60 minutes. And it’s not even close. The gap between him and the second place player (Suzuki) is about 0.4 |
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Post by seventeen on Apr 8, 2024 11:53:58 GMT -5
It’s one thing for Anderson to not be contributing offensively or asserting himself physically, but that turnover on the 4th goal was so soft. He should be scratched. MSL needs to send a message that this is unacceptable. If he just takes the body, like he is supposedly very good at, that pass doesn't happen. Anderson looked very relaxed on that play. |
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Post by seventeen on Apr 8, 2024 11:56:03 GMT -5
It was a bizarre play showing a guy who can't think the game. Even the dmen who appear to be caught out of position were simply dunbfounded but what they just saw. A B-|nd by the way, Josh is the vet in the lot As expected, it was a crappy pass. Instead of something softer that Barron can get to, it's too hard and goes to a Ranger. Dumbkopf. |
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Post by seventeen on Apr 8, 2024 12:00:13 GMT -5
Matheson springs Newhook into the clear - now 3-2 rangers That's 30 points in 50 games. Last season with the Avs Newhook had 30 points in 82 games. Not bad for a player most don’t consider a center, much less a second line center Since returning from injury his has 6 goals , 11 assists in 27 games playing with Gallagher and Armia. Who thought anyone could resurrect those two? Only 4 of those points have come on the power play Also, fun stat, Newhook leads ALL Habs in even strength points per 60 minutes. And it’s not even close. The gap between him and the second place player (Suzuki) is about 0.4 I thought that was a good trade from the get go. Alex is showing some nice hands. It seems hard for most guys to develop properly when they're on a contender. The coach is balancing development with wins, and wins almost always win out. Marty, and the Habs, are going to face that same issue in a few years when they may still have some younger guys in the 21-22 age range (this year's draft picks), but they're in a contending window and need the wins. |
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