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Post by Willie Dog on Jun 20, 2024 15:25:58 GMT -5
Wasn't it Bergevin who said "it's hard"? Figuring out a players' ceiling is easy but projecting how that will translate to production is hard. A lot of other factors come into play, but I would try to figure out how complementary a kid's game is. Can you plug and play him? Does he know how to play with guys that are better/worse than him? Joshua Roy turned a lot of heads at the WJC riding shotgun with Bedard but not everyone can do that. Roy just has a real maturity to his game and know how to complement a great player like Bedard. I guess if I was stuck on Demidov, Lindstrom, Sennecke, I might focus less on who has the highest absolute skill set and ceiling and more on the player that can thrive in different lineups, different situations, a guy that can still be effective if he's not driving the play. That and the intangibles like hockey IQ and work ethic might make you more confident that a guy with lesser 'talent' may have higher likelihood of being a better pro. But it's hard to pass on talent.... I don't know! Are any of the forwards after Celebrini consider 1st line material on a contender? If not then I agree with you BH, the guy has to be able to play well with others, being able to drive play is important for a 5OA, but he has to be able to fit in. |
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Post by seventeen on Jun 21, 2024 0:57:01 GMT -5
Yeah. I believe Demidov and Lindstrom are slam dunk top line players and you may be able to add Sennecke and Iginla to that. In some circles (not mine) Eiserman is a top 3 player. there are a lot of very good forwards available. Odds are most are not going to end up on a top line, even on just a good team, but some guys will surprise. Brandsegg-Nygard (I wish he had a shorter name) is likely a 2nd line winger, but he's one of those guys who could turn into Zach Hyman, but get to that level faster than Hyman did.
Would you have picked David Pastrnak as a top line winger in his draft? Probably not, considering he went 25th. That 2014 draft was considered weak at the time. I recall, cause there was not much hoopla over Aaron Ekblad at #1, yet 10 years later, it's looking like a fairly average to above draft. Sam Reinhart, Draisaitl, Bennett, Nylander, Ehlers, Fiala, Larkin, Alex Tuch, Pastrnak, Kempe and so on. It was actually a solid draft. There were a few second rounders too.
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Post by Cranky on Jun 21, 2024 2:19:49 GMT -5
Wasn't it Bergevin who said "it's hard"? Figuring out a players' ceiling is easy but projecting how that will translate to production is hard. A lot of other factors come into play, but I would try to figure out how complementary a kid's game is. Can you plug and play him? Does he know how to play with guys that are better/worse than him? Joshua Roy turned a lot of heads at the WJC riding shotgun with Bedard but not everyone can do that. Roy just has a real maturity to his game and know how to complement a great player like Bedard. I guess if I was stuck on Demidov, Lindstrom, Sennecke, I might focus less on who has the highest absolute skill set and ceiling and more on the player that can thrive in different lineups, different situations, a guy that can still be effective if he's not driving the play. That and the intangibles like hockey IQ and work ethic might make you more confident that a guy with lesser 'talent' may have higher likelihood of being a better pro. But it's hard to pass on talent.... I don't know! I think the guys who make something out of nothing is Sennecke and Demidov. Lindstrome look more like a north south wrecking ball then an east-west defense spliter. Physically Lindstrome and Sennecke are clearly more physical then the ballerina MHL. Sennecky is now closer to 6'4" vs 6' Demidov. Work ethic. I don't know. In the NHL the work ethic comes along with the pain threshold. Who amongst the three can take it more abuse? |
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Post by Polarice on Jun 21, 2024 5:30:49 GMT -5
Wasn't it Bergevin who said "it's hard"? Figuring out a players' ceiling is easy but projecting how that will translate to production is hard. A lot of other factors come into play, but I would try to figure out how complementary a kid's game is. Can you plug and play him? Does he know how to play with guys that are better/worse than him? Joshua Roy turned a lot of heads at the WJC riding shotgun with Bedard but not everyone can do that. Roy just has a real maturity to his game and know how to complement a great player like Bedard. I guess if I was stuck on Demidov, Lindstrom, Sennecke, I might focus less on who has the highest absolute skill set and ceiling and more on the player that can thrive in different lineups, different situations, a guy that can still be effective if he's not driving the play. That and the intangibles like hockey IQ and work ethic might make you more confident that a guy with lesser 'talent' may have higher likelihood of being a better pro. But it's hard to pass on talent.... I don't know! For me it's not that hard...you look at what we need. We need goals...so we draft someone who scores goals....we don't need a set up guy...we have them, we need a pure sniper, someone who can play the power play, first two lines, score 45-55 goals a year. Don't care about their defence, we have defencemen for that. Did we ever say, gee I wish Lafleur would backcheck more? So....it starts with Demidov, we should be doing everything in our power to land him. If that means trading up, then we trade up. |
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Post by Willie Dog on Jun 21, 2024 7:11:25 GMT -5
Wasn't it Bergevin who said "it's hard"? Figuring out a players' ceiling is easy but projecting how that will translate to production is hard. A lot of other factors come into play, but I would try to figure out how complementary a kid's game is. Can you plug and play him? Does he know how to play with guys that are better/worse than him? Joshua Roy turned a lot of heads at the WJC riding shotgun with Bedard but not everyone can do that. Roy just has a real maturity to his game and know how to complement a great player like Bedard. I guess if I was stuck on Demidov, Lindstrom, Sennecke, I might focus less on who has the highest absolute skill set and ceiling and more on the player that can thrive in different lineups, different situations, a guy that can still be effective if he's not driving the play. That and the intangibles like hockey IQ and work ethic might make you more confident that a guy with lesser 'talent' may have higher likelihood of being a better pro. But it's hard to pass on talent.... I don't know! For me it's not that hard...you look at what we need. We need goals...so we draft someone who scores goals....we don't need a set up guy...we have them, we need a pure sniper, someone who can play the power play, first two lines, score 45-55 goals a year. Don't care about their defence, we have defencemen for that. Did we ever say, gee I wish Lafleur would backcheck more? So....it starts with Demidov, we should be doing everything in our power to land him. If that means trading up, then we trade up. If not Demidov then based on what you're saying, Catton and Eisermann are the next 2 choices |
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Post by Polarice on Jun 21, 2024 9:49:54 GMT -5
For me it's not that hard...you look at what we need. We need goals...so we draft someone who scores goals....we don't need a set up guy...we have them, we need a pure sniper, someone who can play the power play, first two lines, score 45-55 goals a year. Don't care about their defence, we have defencemen for that. Did we ever say, gee I wish Lafleur would backcheck more? So....it starts with Demidov, we should be doing everything in our power to land him. If that means trading up, then we trade up. If not Demidov then based on what you're saying, Catton and Eisermann are the next 2 choices Absolutely....If Demidov was taken, my next choice would be Catton. He's a little small, but he can score. |
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Post by frozone on Jun 21, 2024 9:58:27 GMT -5
For me it's not that hard...you look at what we need. We need goals...so we draft someone who scores goals....we don't need a set up guy...we have them, we need a pure sniper, someone who can play the power play, first two lines, score 45-55 goals a year. Don't care about their defence, we have defencemen for that. Did we ever say, gee I wish Lafleur would backcheck more? So....it starts with Demidov, we should be doing everything in our power to land him. If that means trading up, then we trade up. If not Demidov then based on what you're saying, Catton and Eisermann are the next 2 choices Funny, I would have labelled Demidov as more of a playmaker. Lindstrom, Iginla, and Eiserman are the goal scorers imo. Catton should be in that list too, even though he’s a playmaker first. Scoring 54 in the WHL is nothing to sneeze at. |
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Post by Habs_fan_in_LA on Jun 21, 2024 12:17:58 GMT -5
For me it's not that hard...you look at what we need. We need goals...so we draft someone who scores goals....we don't need a set up guy...we have them, we need a pure sniper, someone who can play the power play, first two lines, score 45-55 goals a year. Don't care about their defence, we have defencemen for that. Did we ever say, gee I wish Lafleur would backcheck more? So....it starts with Demidov, we should be doing everything in our power to land him. If that means trading up, then we trade up. If not Demidov then based on what you're saying, Catton and Eisermann are the next 2 choices Agree 100%. Geeze, when was the last time I said that? |
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Post by Willie Dog on Jun 21, 2024 13:56:32 GMT -5
If not Demidov then based on what you're saying, Catton and Eisermann are the next 2 choices Funny, I would have labelled Demidov as more of a playmaker. Lindstrom, Iginla, and Eiserman are the goal scorers imo. Catton should be in that list too, even though he’s a playmaker first. Scoring 54 in the WHL is nothing to sneeze at. Catton also has the 3rd highest PPG in the WHL history.. That is impressive Also Spokane was a bad team so although he got lots of primo icetime, he also faced the other teams best night in and night out Attachments:
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Post by Disgruntled70sHab on Jun 22, 2024 9:59:33 GMT -5
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Post by Skilly on Jun 22, 2024 21:17:07 GMT -5
If they pick Buium, I may need a break from here
We already have FOUR left defense that no one wants to move, a fifth would make no sense
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Post by Willie Dog on Jun 22, 2024 22:16:26 GMT -5
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Post by Cranky on Jun 24, 2024 23:25:12 GMT -5
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Post by seventeen on Jun 25, 2024 12:37:18 GMT -5
If they pick Buium, I may need a break from here We already have FOUR left defense that no one wants to move, a fifth would make no sense "No one" is our HabsRus team, which doesn't include Hughes. If they went for Buium, I could see Hutson going for a forward. Buium replaces Hutson's offense (without being quite as flashy), with improved defense. I'd go along with that. I like Hutson a lot, but I also recognize the risks. In any case, it would have to be an unlucky set of selections before we lost a crack at Demidov, Lindstrom and Sennecke. It would have to go Demidov - Hawks pass on Levshunov Sennecke - Verbeek is after a right dman or right power winger. That means Levshunov, Lindstrom or Sennecke. Sennecke's ceiling appeals to him. Lindstrom - Waddell goes for the power guy up front to follow Fantilli. Habs - oops....all gone. Do we go for Iginla, Catton, or the first Dman on our list? |
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Post by seventeen on Jun 25, 2024 12:38:44 GMT -5
Yeah. I had too many Anderson visions when I watched Lindstrom (except the puck ended up in the net instead of the crest) but the back issues sealed it for me. I'll let someone else take the risk. |
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Post by Cranky on Jun 25, 2024 12:47:51 GMT -5
"A big forward with size and high-end skill who’s just realizing how good he can be, he also seems to have an F-you vibe to his game,” said another scout. “I don’t think I’m alone in asking this question, but is it possible he could turn out to be the best forward in the draft besides Celebrini?”
F-you attitude? Which exactly what Dach has?
Every single time i read about this kid, i want him...BADLY
I think that he, Slaf and Dach will be The Nightmares of Montreal....
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Post by Cranky on Jun 25, 2024 13:01:01 GMT -5
Yeah. I had too many Anderson visions when I watched Lindstrom (except the puck ended up in the net instead of the crest) but the back issues sealed it for me. I'll let someone else take the risk. Two of the worse two word combo in the dictionary is....YEAH BUT... As a GM, when i heard that it was a red flag that my manager is putting feelings ahead of facts and her/his de ision is questionble. And my wife turtures me with it. In her case, it's a deflection from making a hard decision. There is no YEAH BUT in a guy who has a back problem. Its simply black and white that there WILL BE A PROBLEM. |
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Post by seventeen on Jun 25, 2024 13:01:31 GMT -5
"A big forward with size and high-end skill who’s just realizing how good he can be, he also seems to have an F-you vibe to his game,” said another scout. “I don’t think I’m alone in asking this question, but is it possible he could turn out to be the best forward in the draft besides Celebrini?” F-you attitude? Which exactly what Dach has? Every single time i read about this kid, i want him...BADLY I think that he, Slaf and Dach will be The Nightmares of Montreal.... I'm not certain who you're referring to. Who is it you want badly? |
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Post by frozone on Jun 25, 2024 13:02:28 GMT -5
"A big forward with size and high-end skill who’s just realizing how good he can be, he also seems to have an F-you vibe to his game,” said another scout. “I don’t think I’m alone in asking this question, but is it possible he could turn out to be the best forward in the draft besides Celebrini?” F-you attitude? Which exactly what Dach has? Every single time i read about this kid, i want him...BADLY I think that he, Slaf and Dach will be The Nightmares of Montreal.... Was that quote about Lindstrom or Sennecke? |
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Post by Cranky on Jun 25, 2024 13:27:51 GMT -5
"A big forward with size and high-end skill who’s just realizing how good he can be, he also seems to have an F-you vibe to his game,” said another scout. “I don’t think I’m alone in asking this question, but is it possible he could turn out to be the best forward in the draft besides Celebrini?” F-you attitude? Which exactly what Dach has? Every single time i read about this kid, i want him...BADLY I think that he, Slaf and Dach will be The Nightmares of Montreal.... Was that quote about Lindstrom or Sennecke? Sennecke. |
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Post by Willie Dog on Jun 25, 2024 14:25:43 GMT -5
Was that quote about Lindstrom or Sennecke? Sennecke. My worries are Lindstrom and his "Doctor says i need a backiotemy", Demidov being as good in the NHL as he has been in the MHL, Sennecke being all that and a bag of potato chips or turning into an awkward giraffe and Catton being nithing more than a smurf... other than Celebrini it's a coin toss, the Habs brass better not screw this up |
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Post by folatre on Jun 25, 2024 17:51:23 GMT -5
If we are talking exclusively about the forwards (not Celebrini), I think Iginla may have the highest floor. And I will not be upset if Montreal picks him. However, obviously I hope Hughes and Bobrov are astute enough to have a good read on how likely it is that kids like Lindstrom, Sennecke and Catton can reach their talent ceiling.
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Post by seventeen on Jun 26, 2024 0:18:35 GMT -5
I still really, really like Catton but I know you can't draft him at 5. Please, Kent, get another pick in the 10-15 range for us to get Berkly.
I would like to add Berkly (Berkely) and Rutger (Rutgers). What's with players I like and the universities they sound so much like? If Ryan McGill was still playing I'd probably want to add him.
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Post by Polarice on Jun 26, 2024 9:55:28 GMT -5
"A big forward with size and high-end skill who’s just realizing how good he can be, he also seems to have an F-you vibe to his game,” said another scout. “I don’t think I’m alone in asking this question, but is it possible he could turn out to be the best forward in the draft besides Celebrini?” F-you attitude? Which exactly what Dach has? Every single time i read about this kid, i want him...BADLY I think that he, Slaf and Dach will be The Nightmares of Montreal.... Finally spoke/text to my friend last night....he's been crazy busy. He's heard that the Habs are looking at 3 players to draft at #5. 1) Demidov 2) Sennecke 3) Catton Some within the organization are leaning towards Iginla, but feels that's a long shot. Also, there is pressure for the Habs to trade their 26th pick to move up by perhaps moving one of their 2025 first round picks to try and land 2 of their targets. Also....there is a chance of them trading for a forward...didn't say who, but it could cost them a dman or two....so if that is the case don't be surprised, if they still have their #5 pick that they may take a dman. Could be an interesting week. |
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Post by Willie Dog on Jun 26, 2024 10:10:16 GMT -5
"A big forward with size and high-end skill who’s just realizing how good he can be, he also seems to have an F-you vibe to his game,” said another scout. “I don’t think I’m alone in asking this question, but is it possible he could turn out to be the best forward in the draft besides Celebrini?” F-you attitude? Which exactly what Dach has? Every single time i read about this kid, i want him...BADLY I think that he, Slaf and Dach will be The Nightmares of Montreal.... Finally spoke/text to my friend last night....he's been crazy busy. He's heard that the Habs are looking at 3 players to draft at #5. 1) Demidov 2) Sennecke 3) Catton Some within the organization are leaning towards Iginla, but feels that's a long shot. Also, there is pressure for the Habs to trade their 26th pick to move up by perhaps moving one of their 2025 first round picks to try and land 2 of their targets. Also....there is a chance of them trading for a forward...didn't say who, but it could cost them a dman or two....so if that is the case don't be surprised, if they still have their #5 pick that they may take a dman. Could be an interesting week. Regarding a trade I posted this in the trade rumours Ok I can't resist. Have you seen McGroarty play? He is the opposite of flashy. Just effective. That's the on-ice product. I have never heard anything about him being a prima donna when it comes to off ice. I'd like to know more about the issues with Winnipeg who have had their own share of odd decisions about the handling of young players (Perfetti and Heinola). Based on what I read from Bukula below, the cost might not be stupid to get McG www.sportsnet.ca/nhl/article/scouts-analysis-what-could-jets-get-in-rutger-mcgroarty-trade/I wonder if the Habs offer their 26th and 57th along with 2 of Struble, Barron or Harris... because I think the Jets are having issues developing their D. McG-Dach-Roy...interesting 2nd line |
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Post by Habs_fan_in_LA on Jun 26, 2024 10:32:19 GMT -5
I still really, really like Catton but I know you can't draft him at 5. Please, Kent, get another pick in the 10-15 range for us to get Berkly. I would like to add Berkly (Berkely) and Rutger (Rutgers). What's with players I like and the universities they sound so much like? If Ryan McGill was still playing I'd probably want to add him. Important to remember the draft is not the solution. It’s one player and with outstanding fortune two. Unless it’s generational he won’t be in the nhl next year and won’t be impactful for three years. Not worried about the safest floor and want the highest ceiling. Demidov, Eiserman or Catton. Nobody will care in three years if we picked Catton at five or traded down to get him at eight. The point is we get who we want, who our brain trust wants. Another Hutson would be nice at 26 or a 6 foot seven forward who scores against pee wee competition at 26th. Hopefully we won’t get another chance at picking fifth next year. |
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Post by Cranky on Jun 26, 2024 12:55:44 GMT -5
"A big forward with size and high-end skill who’s just realizing how good he can be, he also seems to have an F-you vibe to his game,” said another scout. “I don’t think I’m alone in asking this question, but is it possible he could turn out to be the best forward in the draft besides Celebrini?” F-you attitude? Which exactly what Dach has? Every single time i read about this kid, i want him...BADLY I think that he, Slaf and Dach will be The Nightmares of Montreal.... Finally spoke/text to my friend last night....he's been crazy busy. He's heard that the Habs are looking at 3 players to draft at #5. 1) Demidov 2) Sennecke 3) Catton Some within the organization are leaning towards Iginla, but feels that's a long shot. Also, there is pressure for the Habs to trade their 26th pick to move up by perhaps moving one of their 2025 first round picks to try and land 2 of their targets. Also....there is a chance of them trading for a forward...didn't say who, but it could cost them a dman or two....so if that is the case don't be surprised, if they still have their #5 pick that they may take a dman. Could be an interesting week. If those 3 are really the target, I'm relieved Lindstrome is off the books. A better Anderson with a time bomb back is not a solution. I know I'm stuck on Sennecke but the more i read about him, the more i like him. I LOVE players with attitude and hate to lose. Sennecke has the 2nd most pm's on his team. He's got a few lose screws, i like that. A LOT. Of all things, i played with relatives in a bowling league and we came in third. I hated every second of it. People couldn't figure out why i was so quiet. I was angry. A few lose screws is the only answer. Is it any wonder i love players with lose screws? One of MY greatest moment in hockey was old and beaten Henry Richard went against Phil Esposito, mano a mano. A man 60 pounds and 6 inches taller, but Henry wouldn't give him an inch. His sweater was decorated with blood, but he wouldn't give an inch. That's what MY heroes do. We won aganst all odds. I'm reading that Sennecke has the same f-you attitude in his game...then you can see why i want him.  |
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Post by seventeen on Jun 26, 2024 13:36:15 GMT -5
Finally spoke/text to my friend last night....he's been crazy busy. He's heard that the Habs are looking at 3 players to draft at #5. 1) Demidov 2) Sennecke 3) Catton Some within the organization are leaning towards Iginla, but feels that's a long shot. Also, there is pressure for the Habs to trade their 26th pick to move up by perhaps moving one of their 2025 first round picks to try and land 2 of their targets. Also....there is a chance of them trading for a forward...didn't say who, but it could cost them a dman or two....so if that is the case don't be surprised, if they still have their #5 pick that they may take a dman. Could be an interesting week. Thanks Polar. Hopefully, your source's intel is good. I like the 3 guys mentioned and would be thrilled with any one of them and at the same time disappointed we didn't get all three.  . It's curious that of most of the guys being discussed on social media, very little is being said of Catton. It's as if everyone is hoping to play a con on everyone else and talking about everyone but Catton. Oh, he gets mentioned now and then, but there aren't any tv clips of him undressing dmen or making a great pass, etc. Still, it's unlikely he goes in top 10 because of the surplus of defensemen and the fears over his size. After all, only big guys get you to the Cup. Cough. The second part of your post is also interesting and the discussion over McGroarty that we've had makes me wonder if he is the target. We understand the Habs are in on him, but Hughes is in on everyone, so that's not surprising. Winnipeg does indeed need some defensemen. I think they'd be happy enough with Pionk and Morrisey, but both are on the small side. Samberg and Stanley are their big guys but they're 3rd pair and Stanley was benched in the playoffs. I could see the 26th pick, Barron and maybe Mailloux, or just the pick and Mailloux for McGroarty. Rutger has really shot up the prospect ranks. On Basu and Godin's notebook, MA Godin was really high on him, stating he had great character. Their thinking on the breakup was about the way Heinola and Perfetti have been developed and McGroarty wasn't keen on going up and down between the NHL and AHL. Given that McGroarty is probably good enough right now for the NHL, I can see the disconnect. The Jets also have attendance issues and let's pray they don't get moved again, but that might play into it too. Anyway, the Jets need big defensemen. They could get another at 26, but help right now would be ideal. Mailloux is exactly what they need, but he's also what we need. But....McGroarties don't come cheap. I'd like to hold onto Struble, though, and X is definitely off the table. |
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Post by Polarice on Jun 26, 2024 13:43:03 GMT -5
Finally spoke/text to my friend last night....he's been crazy busy. He's heard that the Habs are looking at 3 players to draft at #5. 1) Demidov 2) Sennecke 3) Catton Some within the organization are leaning towards Iginla, but feels that's a long shot. Also, there is pressure for the Habs to trade their 26th pick to move up by perhaps moving one of their 2025 first round picks to try and land 2 of their targets. Also....there is a chance of them trading for a forward...didn't say who, but it could cost them a dman or two....so if that is the case don't be surprised, if they still have their #5 pick that they may take a dman. Could be an interesting week. If those 3 are really the target, I'm relieved Lindstrome is off the books. A better Anderson with a time bomb back is not a solution. I know I'm stuck on Sennecke but the more i read about him, the more i like him. I LOVE players with attitude and hate to lose. Sennecke has the 2nd most pm's on his team. He's got a few lose screws, i like that. A LOT. Of all things, i played with relatives in a bowling league and we came in third. I hated every second of it. People couldn't figure out why i was so quiet. I was angry. A few lose screws is the only answer. Is it any wonder i love players with lose screws? One of MY greatest moment in hockey was old and beaten Henry Richard went against Phil Esposito, mano a mano. A man 60 pounds and 6 inches taller, but Henry wouldn't give him an inch. His sweater was decorated with blood, but he wouldn't give an inch. That's what MY heroes do. We won aganst all odds. I'm reading that Sennecke has the same f-you attitude in his game...then you can see why i want him. View AttachmentSennecke sounds like he'd be a fan favorite in Montreal. |
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Post by Polarice on Jun 26, 2024 13:50:04 GMT -5
Finally spoke/text to my friend last night....he's been crazy busy. He's heard that the Habs are looking at 3 players to draft at #5. 1) Demidov 2) Sennecke 3) Catton Some within the organization are leaning towards Iginla, but feels that's a long shot. Also, there is pressure for the Habs to trade their 26th pick to move up by perhaps moving one of their 2025 first round picks to try and land 2 of their targets. Also....there is a chance of them trading for a forward...didn't say who, but it could cost them a dman or two....so if that is the case don't be surprised, if they still have their #5 pick that they may take a dman. Could be an interesting week. Thanks Polar. Hopefully, your source's intel is good. I like the 3 guys mentioned and would be thrilled with any one of them and at the same time disappointed we didn't get all three. . It's curious that of most of the guys being discussed on social media, very little is being said of Catton. It's as if everyone is hoping to play a con on everyone else and talking about everyone but Catton. Oh, he gets mentioned now and then, but there aren't any tv clips of him undressing dmen or making a great pass, etc. Still, it's unlikely he goes in top 10 because of the surplus of defensemen and the fears over his size. After all, only big guys get you to the Cup. Cough. The second part of your post is also interesting and the discussion over McGroarty that we've had makes me wonder if he is the target. We understand the Habs are in on him, but Hughes is in on everyone, so that's not surprising. Winnipeg does indeed need some defensemen. I think they'd be happy enough with Pionk and Morrisey, but both are on the small side. Samberg and Stanley are their big guys but they're 3rd pair and Stanley was benched in the playoffs. I could see the 26th pick, Barron and maybe Mailloux, or just the pick and Mailloux for McGroarty. Rutger has really shot up the prospect ranks. On Basu and Godin's notebook, MA Godin was really high on him, stating he had great character. Their thinking on the breakup was about the way Heinola and Perfetti have been developed and McGroarty wasn't keen on going up and down between the NHL and AHL. Given that McGroarty is probably good enough right now for the NHL, I can see the disconnect. The Jets also have attendance issues and let's pray they don't get moved again, but that might play into it too. Anyway, the Jets need big defensemen. They could get another at 26, but help right now would be ideal. Mailloux is exactly what they need, but he's also what we need. But....McGroarties don't come cheap. I'd like to hold onto Struble, though, and X is definitely off the table. I know Matterson is on the table for a Habs trade....couldn't tell you who else the Habs are willing to move other than what's been discussed already. I'd be shocked if they moved Milloux they are very high on him...the return would have to be really good. He mentioned that teams are asking about Beck....they are not sure if they are all that interested in moving him. They all looking at him maybe sliding into the 3rd line centre position this year. Who knows though...if the return is good they trade anybody.  |
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