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Post by Tankdriver on Jun 26, 2024 14:37:39 GMT -5
After doing a lot of reading and listening of scouting reports, my pick on who I believe will be picked is Zeev Buium. A very good defensman that has superstar potential that plays both sides. Also my reasoning is the following:
Demidov Levshunov Lindstrom
will be picked before the Habs can choose. In which order, I can't say. I think it really depends on what Chicago picks. If they grab Lev, Anaheim might grab Buium.
I also think Montreal ends up trading one of their defencemen this draft. Like a Mailloux/Hutson/Reinbacher for McGroarty, Necas, Zegras kind of deal. Or Matheson for Holtz. something in those veins.
However, I could also see them trading down a couple spots, grabbing another 1st and second, and packaging that with #26 to move up into top 12 and get a Catton/Senneke/Iginla/Eisermann.
Either way, the Canadiens will not come away draft weekend with pick 5 and 26. Something will happen either with picks or players going.
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Post by Habs_fan_in_LA on Jun 26, 2024 18:42:11 GMT -5
On paper, it should Demidov, but this is so hard because there is really very little to separate them. Power forward? Big guy with fantastic hands? Russian but who oozes skill? I'm still going with Sennecke and will gladly eat crow if we pick from the other two. Demidov is very good. Is he that much better than Catton or Eiserman. Not unhappy with any of them at fifth. All three have the potential to be the superstar in this draft. Not a criticism of Celebrini but what exactly will they be like at 23 in five years. Catton is the skater, Eiserman the shooter and Demidov the stick handler. Catton and Eiserman are doing this at a younger age.
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Post by Willie Dog on Jun 26, 2024 19:09:34 GMT -5
I like Catton at 5th.
I would also love to have them bundle Matheson and Harris/Barron along with the 26th for McG and winnipegs 2nd
We need to clear the log jam on D and get an impact full forward which McG is imo
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Post by Disgruntled70sHab on Jun 26, 2024 19:49:06 GMT -5
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Post by Willie Dog on Jun 26, 2024 20:13:54 GMT -5
Habs meeting with Silayev as well
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Post by jkr on Jun 26, 2024 20:13:57 GMT -5
Button did another mock draft today.
Some picks are far different than what I have been reading.
He has Demidov at 2, Buium going 3rd, Iginla to Montreal at 5. He'd got Sennecke at 10 & Catton at 15.
While I was looking around I saw that Buium has an older brother in the Wings system.
BTW , does anyone know how to pronounce that name?
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Post by frozone on Jun 27, 2024 11:01:31 GMT -5
I feel like there will be a few surprises on draft day so I’m going to have some fun with my prediction. 1. Celebrini - no need to get fancy with this pick, we know what it is. 2. Lindstrom - I’m going to ignore the injury for now since the athletic podcast also reported that teams weren’t really worried after the report which apparently included a herniated disc (?). Anyway… if it’s true that teams aren’t worried, I think Chicago would be happy to select Lindstrom to be either the 2C behind Bedard or perhaps his winger. Lindstrom really hasn’t been playing high level hockey for very long but has been exploding once given proper coaching and development. He really hasn’t played center for very long either. In other words, he’s just scratching the surface. This pick is all about potential. 3. Levshunov - Anaheim will be happy to select the top ranked RHD in the draft to add to their impressive depth on D. 4. Catton - Columbus goes with the player that typically gets looked over in most mocks due to being only slightly smaller than Celebrini. 5. Buium - BPA. Do yourself a favour and compare Buium’s 2023-24 season with the draft seasons of current superstar NHLers that came out of the NCAA. Don’t limit yourself to just the Dmen either. He’s a winner and if the objective is to win the Stanley cup, I think Buium is the best pick for the Habs at this point. Maybe I’m a bit biased because I’ve actually seen him play, and to me he’s the type of hockey player that you just shouldn’t pass on. What about the Russians? I think Demidov may slide. To be honest I know barely anything about the MHL quality of hockey, and for that reason I have my doubts about his highlight reels. And Silayev just doesn’t have the offensive potential imo to warrant a top 5 selection. I can’t see Lindstrom going #2 anymore now that the herniated disc injury was confirmed. Sure, teams say that they’re no longer worried after going through the report, but that could all be hot air. Also, with Demidov showing so well in Miami, I assume he’ll go top 5. Quick revision: 1. Celebrini 2. Levshunov 3. Demidov 4. Lindstrom 5. Buium I’m gonna stick with Buium for the Habs pick, although part of me thinks we’ll be taking Catton instead. If you take a look at Dach and Newhook, we see that Hugo values guys who are very comfortable with the puck on their stick and excel at carrying it into the offensive zone. This is an area where Catton and Buium are both excellent. Ultimately, I think they still go with Buium and will trade some existing dmen to balance out the depth chart.
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Post by Tankdriver on Jun 27, 2024 11:32:45 GMT -5
I feel like there will be a few surprises on draft day so I’m going to have some fun with my prediction. 1. Celebrini - no need to get fancy with this pick, we know what it is. 2. Lindstrom - I’m going to ignore the injury for now since the athletic podcast also reported that teams weren’t really worried after the report which apparently included a herniated disc (?). Anyway… if it’s true that teams aren’t worried, I think Chicago would be happy to select Lindstrom to be either the 2C behind Bedard or perhaps his winger. Lindstrom really hasn’t been playing high level hockey for very long but has been exploding once given proper coaching and development. He really hasn’t played center for very long either. In other words, he’s just scratching the surface. This pick is all about potential. 3. Levshunov - Anaheim will be happy to select the top ranked RHD in the draft to add to their impressive depth on D. 4. Catton - Columbus goes with the player that typically gets looked over in most mocks due to being only slightly smaller than Celebrini. 5. Buium - BPA. Do yourself a favour and compare Buium’s 2023-24 season with the draft seasons of current superstar NHLers that came out of the NCAA. Don’t limit yourself to just the Dmen either. He’s a winner and if the objective is to win the Stanley cup, I think Buium is the best pick for the Habs at this point. Maybe I’m a bit biased because I’ve actually seen him play, and to me he’s the type of hockey player that you just shouldn’t pass on. What about the Russians? I think Demidov may slide. To be honest I know barely anything about the MHL quality of hockey, and for that reason I have my doubts about his highlight reels. And Silayev just doesn’t have the offensive potential imo to warrant a top 5 selection. I can’t see Lindstrom going #2 anymore now that the herniated disc injury was confirmed. Sure, teams say that they’re no longer worried after going through the report, but that could all be hot air. Also, with Demidov showing so well in Miami, I assume he’ll go top 5. Quick revision: 1. Celebrini 2. Levshunov 3. Demidov 4. Lindstrom 5. Buium I’m gonna stick with Buium for the Habs pick, although part of me thinks we’ll be taking Catton instead. If you take a look at Dach and Newhook, we see that Hugo values guys who are very comfortable with the puck on their stick and excel at carrying it into the offensive zone. This is an area where Catton and Buium are both excellent. Ultimately, I think they still go with Buium and will trade some existing dmen to balance out the depth chart. That's how I got it, but 2 and 3 are switched.
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Post by seventeen on Jun 27, 2024 14:25:02 GMT -5
Here’s a potential scenario much along the lines of the Slaf draft and Dach deal.
a). If Demidov is there at 5, Habs pick him and maybe do nothing else. If he isn’t there, and Sennecke isnt there, they
b) draft Buim snd complete some pre-arrranged deal with someone (Jets?) and move one or 2 D and #26 for McGroarty. Or another team, another player, but that’s the framework especially since hearing Buium can play and has played LHD & RHD. I get the feeling they really like Demidov, Sennecke & Buium in that order.
The above seems very like Gorton and Hughes. Be prepared, have plans in place, have backup plans in place.
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Post by Habs_fan_in_LA on Jun 27, 2024 15:42:28 GMT -5
I feel like there will be a few surprises on draft day so I’m going to have some fun with my prediction. 1. Celebrini - no need to get fancy with this pick, we know what it is. 2. Lindstrom - I’m going to ignore the injury for now since the athletic podcast also reported that teams weren’t really worried after the report which apparently included a herniated disc (?). Anyway… if it’s true that teams aren’t worried, I think Chicago would be happy to select Lindstrom to be either the 2C behind Bedard or perhaps his winger. Lindstrom really hasn’t been playing high level hockey for very long but has been exploding once given proper coaching and development. He really hasn’t played center for very long either. In other words, he’s just scratching the surface. This pick is all about potential. 3. Levshunov - Anaheim will be happy to select the top ranked RHD in the draft to add to their impressive depth on D. 4. Catton - Columbus goes with the player that typically gets looked over in most mocks due to being only slightly smaller than Celebrini. 5. Buium - BPA. Do yourself a favour and compare Buium’s 2023-24 season with the draft seasons of current superstar NHLers that came out of the NCAA. Don’t limit yourself to just the Dmen either. He’s a winner and if the objective is to win the Stanley cup, I think Buium is the best pick for the Habs at this point. Maybe I’m a bit biased because I’ve actually seen him play, and to me he’s the type of hockey player that you just shouldn’t pass on. What about the Russians? I think Demidov may slide. To be honest I know barely anything about the MHL quality of hockey, and for that reason I have my doubts about his highlight reels. And Silayev just doesn’t have the offensive potential imo to warrant a top 5 selection. I can’t see Lindstrom going #2 anymore now that the herniated disc injury was confirmed. Sure, teams say that they’re no longer worried after going through the report, but that could all be hot air. Also, with Demidov showing so well in Miami, I assume he’ll go top 5. Quick revision: 1. Celebrini 2. Levshunov 3. Demidov 4. Lindstrom 5. Buium I’m gonna stick with Buium for the Habs pick, although part of me thinks we’ll be taking Catton instead. If you take a look at Dach and Newhook, we see that Hugo values guys who are very comfortable with the puck on their stick and excel at carrying it into the offensive zone. This is an area where Catton and Buium are both excellent. Ultimately, I think they still go with Buium and will trade some existing dmen to balance out the depth chart. Sounds good except for trading some of our stud defense prospects. Doesn’t look like much of a market for them. As per usual we may overvalue our own prospects.
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Post by frozone on Jun 27, 2024 15:54:01 GMT -5
I can’t see Lindstrom going #2 anymore now that the herniated disc injury was confirmed. Sure, teams say that they’re no longer worried after going through the report, but that could all be hot air. Also, with Demidov showing so well in Miami, I assume he’ll go top 5. Quick revision: 1. Celebrini 2. Levshunov 3. Demidov 4. Lindstrom 5. Buium I’m gonna stick with Buium for the Habs pick, although part of me thinks we’ll be taking Catton instead. If you take a look at Dach and Newhook, we see that Hugo values guys who are very comfortable with the puck on their stick and excel at carrying it into the offensive zone. This is an area where Catton and Buium are both excellent. Ultimately, I think they still go with Buium and will trade some existing dmen to balance out the depth chart. Sounds good except for trading some of our stud defense prospects. Doesn’t look like much of a market for them. As per usual we may overvalue our own prospects. I have no doubt that there’s a market for them. But once we get down to Barron and Harris, teams will be less interested.
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Post by Tankdriver on Jun 27, 2024 17:18:05 GMT -5
I can’t see Lindstrom going #2 anymore now that the herniated disc injury was confirmed. Sure, teams say that they’re no longer worried after going through the report, but that could all be hot air. Also, with Demidov showing so well in Miami, I assume he’ll go top 5. Quick revision: 1. Celebrini 2. Levshunov 3. Demidov 4. Lindstrom 5. Buium I’m gonna stick with Buium for the Habs pick, although part of me thinks we’ll be taking Catton instead. If you take a look at Dach and Newhook, we see that Hugo values guys who are very comfortable with the puck on their stick and excel at carrying it into the offensive zone. This is an area where Catton and Buium are both excellent. Ultimately, I think they still go with Buium and will trade some existing dmen to balance out the depth chart. Sounds good except for trading some of our stud defense prospects. Doesn’t look like much of a market for them. As per usual we may overvalue our own prospects. Why would you want a Harris or a Struble when you can draft a better prospect like Dickerson, Buium, Parekh, Silayhev, etx.
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Post by Disgruntled70sHab on Jun 27, 2024 20:45:55 GMT -5
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Post by IamCanadiens on Jun 27, 2024 22:46:19 GMT -5
Sounds good except for trading some of our stud defense prospects. Doesn’t look like much of a market for them. As per usual we may overvalue our own prospects. Why would you want a Harris or a Struble when you can draft a better prospect like Dickerson, Buium, Parekh, Silayhev, etx. To sign a decent player that you can fit under the cap
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Post by PTH on Jun 28, 2024 1:50:50 GMT -5
McGagg is saying Buium if Lindstrom and Demidov are off the table, so I figure that's a likely enough outcome.
I really liked what I saw of Catton but I don't follow prospects enough to know who makes sense where.
The important part is getting the BPA and not falling into the trap of looking for current roster needs.
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Post by Polarice on Jun 28, 2024 7:04:58 GMT -5
Had a good chat/text last night during the Trump Presidential acceptance speech last night, they were saying that from the conversations they are having in Vegas that Demidov will be available at 5th and the Habs will be taking him.
Now, unless there are some trades today or something comes up, there is a good chance Demidov will be a Hab.
Also, there was some talk that the Habs have turned down/countered several trades as of last night. Apparently the phone is glued to Hughes ear, there was talk about a bunch of GM's getting together last night for drinks in one of their rooms...I'd love to be a fly on the wall to hear that conversation.
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Post by Willie Dog on Jun 28, 2024 7:50:02 GMT -5
Had a good chat/text last night during the Trump Presidential acceptance speech last night, they were saying that from the conversations they are having in Vegas that Demidov will be available at 5th and the Habs will be taking him. Now, unless there are some trades today or something comes up, there is a good chance Demidov will be a Hab. Also, there was some talk that the Habs have turned down/countered several trades as of last night. Apparently the phone is glued to Hughes ear, there was talk about a bunch of GM's getting together last night for drinks in one of their rooms...I'd love to be a fly on the wall to hear that conversation. It's nice to have a GM who doesn't hide behind plants
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Post by Habs_fan_in_LA on Jun 28, 2024 8:02:29 GMT -5
Why would you want a Harris or a Struble when you can draft a better prospect like Dickerson, Buium, Parekh, Silayhev, etx. To sign a decent player that you can fit under the cap I disagree with the assumption that we can trade a Harris or Struble for something of value. I certainly want an upgrade but other GM’s don’t value the same things that we don’t value. We have lots of serviceable young defenseman as well as a couple of experienced steady veterans on defense. We have a couple of offensive dmen that contribute goals and carry the puck. Our lack of scoring by the forwards is the biggest problem. There will be forwards available at fifth who can address our biggest problem.
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Post by IamCanadiens on Jun 28, 2024 8:24:31 GMT -5
To sign a decent player that you can fit under the cap I disagree with the assumption that we can trade a Harris or Struble for something of value. I certainly want an upgrade but other GM’s don’t value the same things that we don’t value. We have lots of serviceable young defenseman as well as a couple of experienced steady veterans on defense. We have a couple of offensive dmen that contribute goals and carry the puck. Our lack of scoring by the forwards is the biggest problem. There will be forwards available at fifth who can address our biggest problem. I'm a huge BPA guy but given the team's need for scoring forwards the only reason to draft someone on D is if all your scouts are convinced that he is that much better than the available forwards. I doubt that's the case this year but we'll find out tonight. I very much agree that trading Harris or Struble type isn't going to bring back much but they do have some value in the cap era. If I were tight to the cap I'd pursue those types if the price is right. I could also see a deal with a team for a winger in a similar situation. Hughes is good at pursuing the type of trade that benefits both teams. I think trades around the league will ramp up once the draft gets going and will continue through free agency. I think it'll be an interesting weekend.
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Post by Tankdriver on Jun 28, 2024 8:58:55 GMT -5
Sounds like Hugo aren't going to be very active on the F.A. route so this draft seems to be the time where the Canadiens need to make hay and push the rebubild forward
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Post by seventeen on Jun 28, 2024 12:33:36 GMT -5
Sounds like Hugo aren't going to be very active on the F.A. route so this draft seems to be the time where the Canadiens need to make hay and push the rebubild forward I’m glad they’re avoiding that trap. It might be necessary in 3-4 years to fill a specific gap, but not right now.
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Post by NWTHabsFan on Jun 28, 2024 14:07:50 GMT -5
My preferences:
Demidov Lindstrom Buium (he has huge upside and had an amazing last two seasons)
If stuck and they are all gone (unlikely):
Iginla/Catton
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Post by NWTHabsFan on Jun 28, 2024 14:09:32 GMT -5
Sounds like Hugo aren't going to be very active on the F.A. route so this draft seems to be the time where the Canadiens need to make hay and push the rebubild forward Yeah, Gorton was quite clear about that in his presser yesterday. Smart knowing where you are in the rebuild.
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Post by jkr on Jun 28, 2024 17:19:48 GMT -5
I don't have Sportsnet. Is this the thread where the picks will be posted?
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Post by Tankdriver on Jun 28, 2024 17:39:49 GMT -5
I don't have Sportsnet. Is this the thread where the picks will be posted? Let's go crazy and say yes 🤪
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Post by Willie Dog on Jun 28, 2024 17:48:04 GMT -5
I don't have Sportsnet. Is this the thread where the picks will be posted? They should have a draft stream on sportsnet.ca but the discussion won't be nearly as intelligent as here
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Post by Tankdriver on Jun 28, 2024 18:08:27 GMT -5
Sportsnet sucks in general. I loved watching TSN run the draft with Bob Mac. and James Duthie.
Can't see Columbus trading 4. I think it is Waddell just trying to drum up excitement for his fan base.
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Post by NWTHabsFan on Jun 28, 2024 18:12:04 GMT -5
Here we go. SJ is on the clock.
Celebrini of course!
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Post by Tankdriver on Jun 28, 2024 18:13:03 GMT -5
The sphere is definitely an interesting look!
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Post by Tankdriver on Jun 28, 2024 18:13:42 GMT -5
Not sure why we have to wait on SJ. Just make the pick.
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