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Post by Willie Dog on Jun 15, 2024 9:58:15 GMT -5
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Post by seventeen on Jun 15, 2024 12:49:35 GMT -5
Didn't he already have a contract with a Swedish team? I know that sometimes, those contracts have escape clauses in case the player makes the Habs roster. Would be nice to know if he's competing for a spot on the big team with Laval as an option if he doesn't make it (which I think he would).
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Post by Cranky on Jun 15, 2024 12:55:56 GMT -5
I suspect that he has an either or contract. He either makes the Habs or he goes back. I have no idea how good he is at this point, but much like Reinbacher, I prefer he gets boiled in the AHL pot then some Euro league.
Let's see...
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Post by NWTHabsFan on Jun 15, 2024 13:05:48 GMT -5
Didn't he already have a contract with a Swedish team? I know that sometimes, those contracts have escape clauses in case the player makes the Habs roster. Would be nice to know if he's competing for a spot on the big team with Laval as an option if he doesn't make it (which I think he would). He signed a two year deal with Timrå. As a second rounder, he has to be offered back to them if he does not make the Habs’ roster. This only applies to the 2024-25 season (next season). Similar to Norlinder’s situation when the Habs signed him to an ELC. Had he been a first rounder, the Habs would have full control over where he plays next season. A year with Timrå in the SHL won’t hurt his development IMO. He is just 20 and the SHL is a stronger league than Liiga, where he has been playing in Finland. He will be at Habs camp, and the timing is always a bit difficult for European based players as their home leagues will have already started. |
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Post by Cranky on Jun 15, 2024 13:17:04 GMT -5
Didn't he already have a contract with a Swedish team? I know that sometimes, those contracts have escape clauses in case the player makes the Habs roster. Would be nice to know if he's competing for a spot on the big team with Laval as an option if he doesn't make it (which I think he would). He signed a two year deal with Timrå. As a second rounder, he has to be offered back to them if he does not make the Habs’ roster. This only applies to the 2024-25 season (next season). Similar to Norlinder’s situation when the Habs signed him to an ELC. Had he been a first rounder, the Habs would have full control over where he plays next season. A year with Timrå in the SHL won’t hurt his development IMO. He is just 20 and the SHL is a stronger league than Liiga, where he has been playing in Finland. He will be at Habs camp, and the timing is always a bit difficult for European based players as their home leagues will have already started. Since you follow prospects far closer then I will ever have the patience.... Why do they want to play in Euro leagues versus the AHL? Is it a matter of room on the roster or their choice of not getting boiled as quickly? It makes no sense to me when you see the results in players like Mailioux vs Reinbacher. |
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Post by NWTHabsFan on Jun 15, 2024 18:17:01 GMT -5
He signed a two year deal with Timrå. As a second rounder, he has to be offered back to them if he does not make the Habs’ roster. This only applies to the 2024-25 season (next season). Similar to Norlinder’s situation when the Habs signed him to an ELC. Had he been a first rounder, the Habs would have full control over where he plays next season. A year with Timrå in the SHL won’t hurt his development IMO. He is just 20 and the SHL is a stronger league than Liiga, where he has been playing in Finland. He will be at Habs camp, and the timing is always a bit difficult for European based players as their home leagues will have already started. Since you follow prospects far closer then I will ever have the patience.... Why do they want to play in Euro leagues versus the AHL? Is it a matter of room on the roster or their choice of not getting boiled as quickly? It makes no sense to me when you see the results in players like Mailioux vs Reinbacher. It is a case by case thing. Reinbacher could have played in the AHL and given how much of a tire fire Kloten was (three coaches, bottom of the league), the decision was a bad one in hind sight. He still got top pairing ice time which he likely would not have under Houle in Laval, but the team was bad. Kapanen played top line centre at the age of 19-20 last year in the Finnish top league. The SHL is the best league in Europe, and better than the AHL. I expect he gets good ice time in Timrå, especially after his good Liiga season and World Championship where he lead Finland in goals. Mailloux needed ice time and lots of it after missing a lot of his junior development time. He got it in Laval, no doubt based on orders from high above to play him lots. Reinbacher is also a RHD, so the two of them would have been fighting head to head for top tier ice time. Reinbacher will do extremely well this season in the AHL is what I expect. His debut at the end of last year was very impressive. Ditto Mailloux. I would like to see Kapanen over as soon as possible, but am very comfortable with a season in the SHL. He still will be challenged big time there. |
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Post by folatre on Jun 15, 2024 20:37:04 GMT -5
I am pleased to see this get done. Kapanen had a strong season for club and country.
Hopefully he has good camp with the Habs to further bolster his confidence and also see the areas where he needs to get better. It seems pretty obvious that he will be getting another season of seasoning in Europe before making an impact in North America in 2025-26.
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Post by Habs_fan_in_LA on Jun 16, 2024 11:00:42 GMT -5
When someone within the organization moves up it costs nothing in trade and makes available an asset for trade. Mailloux and Hutson moving up makes two very good assets available to trade for a scorer. Baby steps but all journeys begin with the first step.
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Post by seventeen on Jun 16, 2024 13:00:40 GMT -5
I am pleased to see this get done. Kapanen had a strong season for club and country. Hopefully he has good camp with the Habs to further bolster his confidence and also see the areas where he needs to get better. It seems pretty obvious that he will be getting another season of seasoning in Europe before making an impact in North America in 2025-26. That's the most likely scenario. Everything coming together after the 2024/25 season. Hughes still has to deal with Dvorak and Anderson, (Gallagher is least tradeable and may not hurt the team). If Hughes can find another team who thinks Anderson would be a good playoff fit (maybe even Florida  ) and take back a bad contract, with less term, that can open up CAP space for the following year. We may even be able to trade Price's contract to a team needing to reach the floor. After Price is paid his $5.5MM bonus on July 1, he will be owed $9.5MM for the next 2 years, which may be palatable. Geeze, did Bergevin ever leave Hughes with a CAP headache. Stu Cowan recently said that if Bergevin ever gets another GM gig, that team better hire someone else to negotiate contracts. As another side note (I get distracted easily), we need to have more patience with Reinbacher with regards to his potential. He's already being considered no better than a #4 dman. Besides the horror show that was Kloten last year, Reinbacher also had to deal with that genetically based knee issue (which outgrows itself) and missed 17 games as a result. Add to that the fact that any knee problem also creates a temporary mental block because you're not sure you can trust your knee to do what it did before, and it's easy to see why he struggled in Kloten last year. But if you saw his first goal that won the game for Laval in his second or third game, you'd have no doubts. I still keep seeing a lot of the same style as Nik Lidstrom. Tall, lanky guy who defends extremely well, skates well and transitions very well. The one area where he needs to get more Lidstrom like is generating points. Most of Lidstrom's came off rebounds from his heavy wrist and slap shots which were always on net. That can be taught. Just look at Florida. Forsling, Montour and Ekblad were all so-so or poor point generators. They go to Florida (Ekblad was already there, natch) and from 20/21 onward their points practically doubled. Coincidence? I think they were taught how to get the puck through the first body and look to create rebounds or forwards cutting to the net for a deflection pass. As our forwards improve and mature, we hope to see the same thing from our defensemen and Reinbacher can certainly pick up on that. As context, an obvious offensive talent at the back, (Mailloux) put up .65 ppg, getting decent ice time and PP time. Reinbacher, while acclimating to a smaller ice surface, new teammates, new system and little if any PP time, scored .45 ppg. By next year, I predict Reinbacher will score as well as Mailloux given equal PP opportunities. And Reinbacher will also kill penalties. I'm not sure you can count on Mailloux to do that, yet. Anyway, to finish off, I have high hopes for Mr. Reinbacher. Maybe not Norris trophy level, but not far off. |
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Post by drkcloud on Jun 16, 2024 17:49:20 GMT -5
From Hughes own mouth he said he did not foresee Reinbacher ever quarterbacking a powerplay in the NHL.
Reinbacher is good at positioning, tall, excellent reach and is forecast to be a shut down dman who is tough to play against. He's no Mailloux
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Post by seventeen on Jun 17, 2024 0:51:37 GMT -5
From Hughes own mouth he said he did not foresee Reinbacher ever quarterbacking a powerplay in the NHL. Reinbacher is good at positioning, tall, excellent reach and is forecast to be a shut down dman who is tough to play against. He's no Mailloux That could be a good thing.  |
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Post by Habs_fan_in_LA on Jun 17, 2024 17:15:52 GMT -5
Since you follow prospects far closer then I will ever have the patience.... Why do they want to play in Euro leagues versus the AHL? Is it a matter of room on the roster or their choice of not getting boiled as quickly? It makes no sense to me when you see the results in players like Mailioux vs Reinbacher. It is a case by case thing. Reinbacher could have played in the AHL and given how much of a tire fire Kloten was (three coaches, bottom of the league), the decision was a bad one in hind sight. He still got top pairing ice time which he likely would not have under Houle in Laval, but the team was bad. Kapanen played top line centre at the age of 19-20 last year in the Finnish top league. The SHL is the best league in Europe, and better than the AHL. I expect he gets good ice time in Timrå, especially after his good Liiga season and World Championship where he lead Finland in goals. Mailloux needed ice time and lots of it after missing a lot of his junior development time. He got it in Laval, no doubt based on orders from high above to play him lots. Reinbacher is also a RHD, so the two of them would have been fighting head to head for top tier ice time. Reinbacher will do extremely well this season in the AHL is what I expect. His debut at the end of last year was very impressive. Ditto Mailloux. I would like to see Kapanen over as soon as possible, but am very comfortable with a season in the SHL. He still will be challenged big time there. We have more players than we have seats on the bench. That's a good problem to have. In the "Usual Route" days there was one, maybe two spots for a rookie to hope to achieve. I'm ready to bet365 that we will have some injuries this year, don't know who, defense or forward, but there will be injuries. Further to that, training camp should be a fair competition. If a younger player is motivated and beats out Gallagher or Savard he deserves the shot. Work hard, hustle, check, block shots and drive to the net and get what you deserve. Talent without effort is like a block of marble without Michaelangelo. It's imperative that the coaches instill the hard work and reward mentality in training camp. Edmonton has talent and Florida has hustle. As good as McDavid is he has to overcome three guys chasing him and tiring him down. Expecting great things this year. My starting lineup will be determined in training camp, not on last years list. |
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Post by Habs_fan_in_LA on Jul 17, 2024 16:43:59 GMT -5
He signed a two year deal with Timrå. As a second rounder, he has to be offered back to them if he does not make the Habs’ roster. This only applies to the 2024-25 season (next season). Similar to Norlinder’s situation when the Habs signed him to an ELC. Had he been a first rounder, the Habs would have full control over where he plays next season. A year with Timrå in the SHL won’t hurt his development IMO. He is just 20 and the SHL is a stronger league than Liiga, where he has been playing in Finland. He will be at Habs camp, and the timing is always a bit difficult for European based players as their home leagues will have already started. Since you follow prospects far closer then I will ever have the patience.... Why do they want to play in Euro leagues versus the AHL? Is it a matter of room on the roster or their choice of not getting boiled as quickly? It makes no sense to me when you see the results in players like Mailioux vs Reinbacher. Please say it ain’t so. With all the false trade rumors I’ve started looking at tankathon for Habs excitement. Not again!!! |
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) and take back a bad contract, with less term, that can open up CAP space for the following year. We may even be able to trade Price's contract to a team needing to reach the floor. After Price is paid his $5.5MM bonus on July 1, he will be owed $9.5MM for the next 2 years, which may be palatable. 
